Why was Aragorn crowned king? the people of Gondor don't know him...

Why was Aragorn crowned king? the people of Gondor don't know him, they don't know if he's capable of managing the kingdom, or if he's a tyrannical prick, or what his tax policies are. He wasn't even born in Gondor! The movie just has him crowned king all of a sudden, without any election or anything. Was Tolkien a hack?

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Because he was of a superior race whose purpose was to rule over common men. Look it up.

renewed shall be the blade that is broken
the crownless again, shall be king

What happened to all the ork refugees?
Did Aragorn genocide them, even the baby Orks?

So the people of Gondor are just a bunch of cucks who let men of another race rule over them?

cucked shall be the cock that is broken
the BBC again, shall be king

He was a confirmed descendant of Isildur - the last King of Gondor. He is of the royal master race. He proved his loyalty to Gondor and his leadership skills in multiple battles on a completely voluntary basis.

>He was a confirmed descendant of Isildur

So? would you crown a descendant of Washington king just because of his ancestry? also Aragorn might have been a good military leader, but he doesn't know anything about ruling. He's a ranger.

And he only won because of some deux ex machina spooky ghosts, not because of any superior strategy. Which was Elrond's idea.

kys

>"They were increased in body and mind by Eönwë, a Gandalf-level being, at the end of the War of Wrath, and granted a lifespan of an average 200 years, greatly increased from their ancestors' lifespan of 90 years."
Literally a superior being. The cucks of Gondor did the right thing.

Did they let him breed their wives as well? More like Cuckdor

>Did they let him breed their wives as well?
I don't think that would be good, because there would be many heirs for Aragorn. It would possibly start a civil war. And Aragorn, a numenorian, having a son with Arwen, an elf, would make the best heir. Aragorn probably killed all of his bastards he had with common mortal women. No need to start a civil war here...

and that's why the movies a shit. it was all perfectly logical in the books.

Washington wasn't a king you fucking retard

>So? would you crown a descendant of Washington king just because of his ancestry?

No, because the US isn't a hereditary monarchy. You fucking idiot.

>it was all perfectly logical in the books.

Explain it then.

Neither is Gondor.

Aragorn is basically a demi-god. It would be stupid to not crown him and crown some mere mortal instead.

>Neither is Gondor.

Yes it is. Denethor wasn't actually a king, he was a Steward. Aragorn was a direct descendant of Isildur and therefore had rightful claim to the throne.

>Denethor wasn't actually a king, he was a Steward.

That's what I'm saying. Gondor gave up on kings when Isildur's descendants decided to become rangers in bumfuck nowhere. Faramir should have been declared the new Steward.

Also Gandalf was there to crown him. Who's going to interrupt him and get BTFO by his potent magic?

>ywn execute the Gondorian Royal Family and establish glorious socialism through proletarian revolution

>Who are you?
>I'm your king.
>What gives you the right, mate?
>I got the Rohiram and an army of ghosts to defend your city against an unstoppable hoard of orcs, and I was in the front lines during the battle. Also I'm the rightful heir to the throne and I was given the crown by Gandalf, a demigod who helped create the world just by singing.
>Well I didn't vote for you.

If you're going to argue about this shit then you need to come up with something better than "a kingdom wasn't a kingdom". Because you're just boring.

>kings
>elected

There has never been an Elected king EVER in the history of the entire universe. Ever.

Why did Gandalf crown him? who made Gandalf the official crowner?

If it was a kingdom why did it have a Steward instead of a King? checkmate.

>Earthfats don't elect their kings

The other planets are laughing at you

>"The Ranger will not divide us!"
>"Not my King!"
>pic related happens

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_election

They were slain. The orc refugees tax policies were too disorganized.

ITT: authoritarian brainlets

yes there have been.

>autistically beheads a messenger

Aragorn should have gone to prison for war crimes.

>monarchy
>picked on how fit they are to rule

I don't think you understand how this works

youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

>Why did Gandalf crown him? who made Gandalf the official crowner?

>I don't know how monarchy works

Fuck u dummy

>Gondor gave up on kings
Then why did they crown Aragorn king, you stupid mong?

>I set canon! Not the books!

They gave up on kings because they thought Isildur's line had died out and the Dunedain (the mythical ruling class of men) had all but been wiped out. Aragorn was only a handful of them left, and they all mostly kept a low profile since Sauron would kill them in a heartbeat if he ever caught wind of them.

>Gondor gave up on kings

Gondor's line of kings died out. Aragorn comes from the Arnorian line.

>cuck

XD upvote!

Faramir is the new steward. He's still subservient to the king though. Steward is like VP, he just handles shit in the Kings absence, which just happened to be like 500 years in this case.

Gandalf is a neigh-all powerful direct servant of Eru (read, God). He can make himself official crowner if he wanted, who the fuck could stop him?

Feels bad man

Have you noticed how there are no fields or crops outside Minas Tirith? I bet the proletariat are starving while the royal family feast on cherry tomatoes imported from the Shire.

>tfw Saruman's only crime was his desire to liberate the races of Middle Earth from tyrannical rule and establish equal treatment for all races, while at the same time increasing literacy and defeating hunger through the advancement of industry

Epic

>5000 years

Ftfy

>it's a "underage contarian tries his hardest to act hard and talk shit about something he doesn't know anything about in hopes of fitting it" episode

yawn

>Autistically
>He brings them the mithril shirt then carefully starts judging their reactions
He was as much as spy as a messanger.
Protip: messengers know better than to talk so much shit.

They didn't give up on kings. The steward was a caretaker in service to the crown. The moment a legitemate heir showed up with the paperwork to prove it the steward would be forced to step down.

in* even

>Why was Aragorn crowned king?

Maybe it's a largely honorary position with no real power, like the Queen of England or President of the United States.

his power is absolute and god given

>who the fuck could stop him?
I guess Gandalf could be assasinated? I'm not sure. In a 1v1 battle he would most definitely kill anyone in Gondor. I guess the best way would be to assasinate Aragorn and his heir/s after Gandalf left Middle-Earth.

Threads on Sup Forums only take off if you add some ridiculous troll post in the OP. This board sucks.

>it's a "dumb newfag doesn't recognize an obvious bait" episode

>neigh-all powerful
You're right about his job title, but he's basically among the weakest demi-gods (with Sauron being about the strongest)

Protip: comparing the Valar and Maiar to gods and demi-gods is a lot more apt than the usual angel comparison given that they have their own personalities, desires, domains of control, and they marry.

>Hey, our equivalent of Satan's right hand man is coming back to kill us all, we should probably just roll with it, right?
>And I totally, ABSOLUTELY am not doing this just to claim the Ring for myself, why do you ask?
>Kill all the trees I have despite me knowing full well their sentient caretakers still exist and might get royally pissed
>oh no, they got royally pissed and fucked my shit right up!
>Guess I'll head for the Shire and set up a dictatorship there, not like the main hero will come back to his hometown and stop me
>And i'll bring that little shit wormtounge too, no way the constant abuse I throw at him will backfire in any way

Saruman got everything he deserved

Wait, so who why didn't the Shire have a king? WAS there a king of the Shire? What was his tax policy?

You will never lead a revolution against the aristocracy, guillotine Aragorn and his Elf witch and found the Glorious Republic of Gondor

>Sup Forumsirgin brainlets too stupid to appreciate a philosophical discussion concerning the nature of ruling

Isildur wasnt really the last King of Gondor but the movie wanted to save some more exposition i guess, the last King was challenged by the Witch King and never heard from again

I was under the impression the wizards still have thier full power but are forbidden from using them by command of Eru

I got you, f a m

The chief official of the Shire was the Mayor of Michel Delving. Elected every seven years at the "Free Fair" held on the White Downs in the Westfarthing, the Mayor was the Postmaster and First Shirriff of the Shire.

The Hobbits of the Shire generally obeyed the Rules, that is, the ancient laws of the North Kingdom, and there was no real need to enforce them; all Hobbits voluntarily obeyed them as they were both ancient and just. Hobbits had lawyers, but these dealt mostly with wills and such matters; there is no record of a formal court system, still less of criminal prosecutions or punishments. Frodo stated that in the Shire no Hobbit had ever been known intentionally to kill another Hobbit. Sméagol's wicked behaviour, including his murder of Déagol (which occurred outside the Shire), led Frodo to doubt that Sméagol was a hobbit at all. Of course, it is probable that Sméagol's treachery was the result of the Ring's influence; the books make it clear that the Ring could tempt individuals to perform terrible acts.

At the resumption of the throne by King Elessar, the Shire again became part of the restored Kingdom of Arnor. Elessar permitted the Hobbits to keep their own laws and customs. (The office of Thain was also left undisturbed, though now, as intended, subject to and local steadholder of the King of Arnor.) In 1427, Elessar issued an edict prohibiting Men from entering the Shire and declaring it a Free Land under the protection of Arnor.

>Explain it then.
spooky ghosts were just spooky ghosts, not an invincible army of instant death. they did fuck all and aragorn's strategy was actually superior.

also he does some healer shit and literally everyone in gondor ends up thinking he's the most amazing thing ever.

Checked.

The shire wasn't really a concern of men or elves, just a backwater taking up space on the map. That's why the ring went undiscovered for so long.

The Hobbits live a superior life of glorious Anarcho-syndicalism in which they themselves own the means of production and don't submit to any higher authority who seeks to take advantage of them. This is compouinded by Samwise's famous declarations like "share the load" and "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you".

Technically the Shire did acknowledge the rule of the king when it was established but since hobbits seemed like such an inconsequential race, they were pretty much left up to their own devices.

There might be something like that in place but nevertheless, so-called "wizards" are just a group of Maia. Mithrandir/Galdalf didn't even want to join because he was a very weak Maiar and afraid of Sauron, which is why he was given one of the three elven rings.

I've never checked the movies to see if you can spot it on his finger or not.

>I was under the impression the wizards still have thier full power but are forbidden from using them by command of Eru
Gandalf's rule was to not directly confront Sauron, but he was allowed to help the people of Middle-Earth in any other way. Still, Gandalf was a prick, so he made a visit to Dol Guldur to "gather intelligence" to cover up the fact that he tried to "accidentally" take out Sauron.

That's true but Gandalf also had the Shire secretly guarded and watched by the Rangers after Bilbo returned with the Ring.

>king
>election
Uhhhhh ok bub

>get crowned
>start singing

>thinks humans are smart enough to rule themselves
>calling others brainlets

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did it all the time.

And look how they turned out.

>And look how they turned out.

Saving Europe from the Muslim hordes?

>thinks kings/rulers aren't humans
What did he mean by this?

Singing is the highest form of magic in the setting. Its literally how god created the world.

In the story of Barren and Luthien, Luthien travels to Morgoth's citadel and defeats Sauron in a epic rap battle along the way.

I am only embellishing slightly about that last part.

>doesnt realise the difference between individuals and the masses

wtf I'm a leftist now

He left out the part where hobbits have extremely strong traditional values and are highly judgemental about anyone who's even a little bit "weird".

Leftists hate hobbits.

>Gondor gave up on kings
No they didn't you ignorant cunt. Boromir asks his father why they don't take the title of "king" since it had been so long since the last king sat in the throne.
Denethor blows him the fuck out by saying ten thousand years wouldn't be long enough to claim the throne.
The kings of Gondor and Arnor ruled by a literal divine mandate.

What a bunch of cucks

Aragorn's people built Gondor and the other cities, he has more rights to them then those lowly humans living there

Y'know, Aragorn IS human.

Men of Numenor live a long time because they're descended from a half-elf, but this isn't like a D&D half-elf.
A LotR Half-elf is a violation of nature that is forced to choose to become one race or the other.

Elrond is a half-elf who chose to become an elf. His brother (I think) chose to become a man, but had hugely extended life which he passed on the his descendants.

wtf I wanna live in the shire now

The Shire is quite literally the comfiest place in all of fiction.

>not Hogwarts

Come on now.

Why does this pic mentally remind me of the smell if 100°f baby diapers?

>Why was Aragorn crowned king?
Because the movie is named "The Return of the King". d'oh

Yeah, Hogwarts. Where some random hazard might liquefy all the bones in your body, with the mild consolation of "Don't worry about the excruciating pain, because we can fix you easily!"

>being that much of a boring coward

Welcome to Hufflepuff

>implying Hufflepuff didn't have the hottest sloots

It didn't, you just like chubby brainlets

Only good thing going for Hogwarts is that it has magic. If I could have that in the Shire I would be all set up. Don't really like a cold dark castle surrounded by monsters. Also, that halfling weed must be potent as fuck!

>ywn live in a comfy hobbit hole
>spending your days smoking your pipe and relaxing
>having seven different meals every day
I shouldn't be wishing to be a manlet but here I am.

Sauron. Can you keep an eye on my cat for the weekend?

heh

Hogwarts is many things but comfy isn't one of them