French demographics

>France was historically Europe's most populous nation.
>During the Middle Ages, more than one quarter of Europe's total population was French;
>by the 17th century, this had decreased slightly to one fifth.
>By the beginning of the 20th century, other European nations, such as Germany and Russia, had caught up with and overtaken it.

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french are mostly faggots now, the only people who do have childrens are arabs, niggers

they were at war from decades from the French Revolution to the end of the Napoleonic Wars.
Probably over a million young men died then.
IIRC, over half a million died in the failed invasion of Russia, and hundreds of thousands also died in the French Revolution during the Vendee "Genocide". + all the battles of those decades and stuff like the reign of terror.

That actually explains a lot of things

French are subhuman

why do you guys hate us so much
posts like this look too sincere to be just trolls

>French are subhuman

>tfw no French epouse to save the French demographic

fuck germany and england reproducting like somalian

i dont hate french people, i hate your uneducated scum (arabs, niggers) dear baguette

If you want a place full of France dick suckers, try /his/

>The French population only grew by 8.6% between 1871 and 1911, while Germany's grew by 60% and Britain's by 54%.[13] Ferdinand Foch joked that the only way for France to permanently improve its relationship with Germany was to castrate 20 million Germans.

>If the population of France had grown between 1815 and 2000 at the same rate as that of Germany during the same time period, France's population would have been 110 million in 2000; Germany grew at a much faster rate despite its very substantial emigration to the Americas, and its larger military and civilian losses during the World Wars than France.

>If France's population had grown at the same rate as that of England and Wales (which was also siphoned off by emigration to the Americas, Australia and New Zealand), France's population could have been as much as 150 million in 2000.

>Should one start the comparison at the time of King Louis XIV, then France would now have approximately the same population as the United States. While France was Europe's leading military power at the time of Louis XIV and then Napoleon, the country lost this advantage due to its relative demographic decline after 1800.

France has 116 people/km2
Germany has 232 people/km2
France has 1.54 times the area that Germany has and that isn't including France's overseas territories.
France could easily have a population of 80-90 million today (all native, not including colonial leftovers) if at the start of the 1800s their population growth didn't stagnate.

Thanks Jesus ;_;

>until 1795 metropolitan France was the most populous country of Europe, above Russia, and the fourth most populous country in the world, behind only China, India and Japan
>between 1795 and 1866, metropolitan France was the second most populous country of Europe, behind Russia, and the fourth most populous country in the world, behind China, India and Russia (having become more populous than Japan during this period)
>between 1866 and 1909, metropolitan France was the third most populous country of Europe, behind Russia and Germany
>between 1909 and 1933, metropolitan France was the fourth most populous country of Europe, behind Russia, Germany, and the United Kingdom
>between 1933 and 1991, metropolitan France was the fifth most populous country of Europe, behind Russia, Germany, the United Kingdom, and Italy
>between 1991 and 2000, metropolitan France recovered its rank as the fourth most populous country of Europe, behind Russia, Germany, and the United Kingdom
>since 2000, metropolitan France has recovered its rank as the third most populous country of Europe, behind Russia and Germany. Worldwide, France's ranking has fallen to twentieth most populous country

lol, what happened?
Maybe if France didn't stop fucking in the 1800s they could've actually stood a chance against germany in WW2.

Belgium is one of the rare country in Europe where the Muslim immigration issue is worse than in France.

That's just because we were one of the first country in the world with the UK to have a demographic transition.

>germany would been well over 100 million if they hadn't started two world wars

butthurt

we lost 1/4 of our population in the 30 years war and then thousands from hundreds of french invasions and them forcing germans to march into russia with them. when they were defeated and we finally had a couple of years of peace from them the german population finally caught up.

quoi?

Why are you so interested in demographics anyway Mex-user?
Do you daydream what could've been or is it something else?

Most probably because of war. The german countries were historically very militaristic, the most famous example being Prussia which was known to rattle It sword for whatnot, got Into mindnumbingly destructive wars all the time, and usually dragged the smaller german states down with It. Its society was so militarized that up until the 19 century Berlin was described as more of a military encampmrnt than a proper city and when compared to the capital cities of other European powers at the time It was a shit hole with dirt roads. The excessive militarism of the prussian state and the relative poverty and backwardness of the general population led to people having a lot of children because most of them could die In a war. Of course, when war didn't occur small population booms happened which led to population explosions. A good example of the destructive wars the germanic states got themselves Into Is the 30 years war when half of the "holy" "roman" empire was burned to the ground along with 40% the population In some areas.
Russia Is almost the same. It has always been a backwards hell hole, however back then It was so scarcely populated that the tsar could just barely enforce his rule which paved the way for numerous unrecorded miseries, murders, rape, massacres, exploitation, corruption, famines etc. The general population lived worse than slaves and serfdom was abolished about 50 years after it was abolished In the rest of Europe so people had a lot of children just In case they were all dragged to some border region to fight the hillmen for the local boyar.

Fuck France and most of all fuck the French people. Always been a drag for the White race.

This isn't surprising to anyone except the totally pig ignorant and historically illiterate.
France was always massive and it took entire coalitions to repeatedly contain them well up until the late 19th Century.

Americans hate you because you hate us more sincerely than anyone else. Not sure about Belgium

Everyone hates you moron

I hate you both

We only hate uneducated and arrogant new worlders like yourself.
Normally educated and functioning Americans are OK, even if less common than in other countries.

Blame the l*berals.

France up to the revolution had had Europe's highest birthrate since the Middle Ages since the country was at war constantly and thousands of young men got killed. Post-1815, aside from the aforementioned demographic effects of 23 years of war, the increased secularization of society and the disappearance of feudal estates caused the birthrate in France to slow down dramatically.

Most of the pre-revolution peasantry lived in squalid conditions and had a very meager diet; an English traveler to France in the late 17th century complained about his inability to find any milk. French agriculture was based almost entirely on cereals and peasants resisted growing potatoes until the 18th century, there were few livestock to provide manure to fertilize the fields, crops failed constantly and mass famines resulted. However, after Louis XIV's reign, France did not experience any more serious food shortages until just before the revolution.

French armies prior to Louis XIV were also little more than ragtag feudal levies consisting of undisciplined peasant soldiers who often went into battle with no shoes on their feet. Under Louis's reign, the army was shaped into a professional conscript force, although it was still a state army rather than a national army Like all other European armies, one had to be of noble birth to become anything more than a noncom.

>Its society was so militarized that up until the 19 century Berlin was described as more of a military encampmrnt than a proper city and when compared to the capital cities of other European powers at the time It was a shit hole with dirt road

Even during the imperial period, Berlin was a hopelessly provincial city that never matched the great capitals of Europe.

feels bad man

Who's talking?

>The general population lived worse than slaves and

When Peter the Great toured Western Europe, he was being shown an English warship and reputedly asked the captain if he could see a demonstration of a sailor being flogged. The captain replied that nobody on the crew had done anything to deserve a flogging. A slightly puzzled Peter asked why that was a problem.

That tells you everything you need to know about Russia.

>le french ppl hates americans meme

>implying they don't
Please everyone complains about Americanization, mocks American's education and despise their foreign policies.

But that's like it everywhere on the continent

Yes that's what I'm saying, we hate them but just as everyone else does

Yes it's everywhere the same.
The american meme that we hates them more than others come from this old iraq war story.

>muhh freedom fries

Well we probably do hate them a little more, as we're smarter than other Europeans and less dependent to their influence still.

Hate is a strong word
We dislike them for their foreign policies and their arrogance but that's it
The rest is just the same memes as everywhere

Paris up to the early 19th century was also a squalid, overcrowded city with frequent disease epidemics. Under Napoleon III, a mass gentrification of the city was initiated which cleared out slums and replaced them with wide boulevards, parks, theaters, monuments, shops, cafes, and other bric a brac. This also had the effect of increased political stability and curbing the riots and revolutions that erupted in the capital every 20 or so years.

Well I guess the average Frenchman doesn't really HATE them yes, just has a natural hostility
But as soon as you study a little of history or modern politics, or travel to their shithole, you start to despise these mutts real quick

I'm not American, so no.

Yes, same for England

Not everyone is an American

Only a few french people goes on Sup Forums. So that's not a good argument.

I think he doesn't understand that the Amerimutt meme describes perfectly the reality.

>But as soon as you study a little of history or modern politics, or travel to their shithole, you start to despise these mutts real quick

>basing your entire knowledge of cunts on Sup Forums and Krautchan memes
Ah, I bet half of France are Algerians and sharia law is in effect in most of the cunt.

I like France

It's not because you can't read outside of Sup Forums maymays that we can't

Actually people struggle to see which cancer between Americanization and Islamization is the most noxious to us.

I hope we don't deserve a load of orange agent or Napalm for that.

France is a big country.

But only edgy leftists/Stormfags/Mudslimes blindly hate the US. The ironing is that leftists are usually the most Americanized people anywhere and generally loathe their cunt's traditional culture and/or working class.

Are Frogs all fucked in the head?
>"Liberate" the Americans to the cost of billions
>Spend the next three centuries bitching and moaning about them

They only did it to fuck with us, and they're never happy unless they're moaning so it's a win-win. You didn't think they did it out of the kindness of their hearts did you? lmao.

At least islamisation is for now limited to large cities.
You have mac donalds withing a 20 minutes drive almost anywhere in France now.

They all do hate you for different reasons, and we do for a little of those three issues as well because they're not all unjustified, but the main point is that Americanization destroyed our culture, therefore it is quite obvious that Islam can be installed to replace it.
Nature hates vacuums.

Just baffling to me

European culture declined post-WWII and gave way to Americanization mostly because it was outdated and unable to adapt to the modern world.

To your modern world. Or, dare I say, to (((their))).

Spineless anglo

Yawn.

heavy growth pre-1900 is better than heavy growth +1900
that means more old buildings and less ugly modern glass towers

To be perfectly honest we have more old buildings because we lost the war almost immediately, so no time to get bombed.

And we got incredibly lucky that German officers decided to not burn Paris despite the order given by Hitler.

I doubt Hitler really gave this order
He really liked the city

same we surrendered after 6 hours and today have lots of old buildings

>he says as he types in english

Weird that you dont know this well know historical fact. there were more than one movie on this ;: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_von_Choltitz

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>i dont hate french people, i hate your uneducated scum (arabs, niggers) dear baguette
This.
Please remove kebab

It's propaganda.

why France demographic is so strong since the end of ww2 ?
>inb4 muuuuh muslims
France and barelly none before the 60's, try again

>what is the baby boom
are you an immigrant for not knowing this?

France particularry compared to germany and uk.

I like France, I hate their infatuation with blacks and Arabs.

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