>DNC emails prove Hillary pays shills to post >posts like these still happen
Kek just leave m8, the jig is up
Christian Cruz
>self-made multimillionaire is is economically illiterate >I know more because of what my gender studies professor said ok
Gavin Phillips
billionaire*
Thomas Rivera
Nice shitpost, retard
Angel Evans
>beelyinaire*
Christian Ross
>le gender studies meme
Consensus among economists is not a "gender studies professor ", my mentally defective aussie shitposter.
Jayden Lewis
Consensus among (((economists))).
Ryder Lopez
Except that I want disaster, so as to precipitate Balkanization. Your move, fake Texas.
Sebastian Roberts
I bet you just hate women, don't you racist?
Henry Morgan
Writing double parentheses around a word is not an argument
Jace Smith
keep sliding shill. It wont stop Killarys campaign from its freefall
Grayson Sanchez
it is when the only reason they say he's wrong is that their gender studies professors don't want him becoming president because of muh feels
he literally makes more money than all of them >you don't get it, I have a high IQ unlike this self-made billionaire
Jose Cooper
> 3 parentheses > "Double-parentheses"
Adam Jenkins
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Jayden Nelson
Why do you keep bringing the gender studies meme, you ducking retard? It has nothing to do with anything on this thread.
>he's rich, therefore he's right!
Nice fallacious thinking, you imbecile. By the way, Trump, who is not even a first generation millionaire, is small time to people like Warren Buffett.
Nathaniel Morales
Nice deflection, faggot.
Daniel Lewis
If he's small time Hillary is microscopic
Josiah Butler
Just like brexit right?
Bentley Smith
Who gives a shit? The dumb aussie was making the non-argument that him being a billionaire makes his protectionist views justified. The truth is that virtually all billionaires are pro-free trade.
Luis Rodriguez
>correct the record calling other people shit posters These leftists used to laugh about it they thought it was a joke well their not laughing anymore now they realize the gravity of their situation
Hudson Long
>(((economists)))
Noah Johnson
Lowering taxes, relaxing regulations and fair trade are god tier economic policies for the home country
Michael Morris
Protectionism only hurts the elites, since we export skill dense services and import labour dense goods.
Noah Russell
why do you care anyways? its not your president or your country GTFO WEON!
Leo Long
spotted the scared bankster globalist
Jace Thompson
Wrong. Protectionism raises the prices of consumer goods, which most heavily affects the working class. At least try reading the goddamn links.
Samuel Barnes
Spotted the subhuman low IQ Trump voter
Easton Sullivan
Globalism and the policies you espouse have destroyed our working class. Gtfo globalist scum
Hudson Fisher
>raises the price of consumer goods Maybe for iphones and other trinkets, certainly not food since we are a major exporter.
The inflationary effect would be more than offset by the positive effects of increased employment for blue collar workers.
The upper middle class would suffer the most.
Nathaniel Reyes
>billionaire would jeopardize his billions for no reason I am more inclined to believe he would make himself richer. Don't know why he would want to lose profit.
Sage of course
Brayden White
>chilean economists
Caleb Scott
Being a billionaire doesn't make you an economist, try to remember this is the guy that sold fucking steaks in The Sharper Image
Landon Wood
Globalization ("globalism" as you like to call it) has raised the living standards of hundreds of millions of people, including Americans. The world you live in and the material prosperity you enjoy exist thanks to free trade.
Nicholas Sanchez
economics is a pseudoscience
Nathaniel Brown
#shillforhill detected.
Gabriel Gomez
>voting for Hillary >voting for Sanders >not voting for watching it burn
Landon Lopez
I don't see why it's so hard to understand the wage competition part of free trade.
If workers here didn't have to compete with 2nd and 3rd world countries in places like south america, the price of labour would increase. Since labour is only a small part of total product cost, inflation wouldn't rise dramatically, and the only people hurt would be the upper middle class service exporters and foreign shitskins like yourself who live off of stolen american jobs.
Gavin Martin
You fucking commie, whats going on with your president? Whats going on with your party? Whats going on with your "movement"?
Kek now tell me you are not a socialist because its a trend. Im done you fucking freshmen.
David Cox
>The inflationary effect would be more than offset by the positive effects of increased employment for blue collar workers.
Wrong. This is directly addressed in the second link given in the OP.
Hudson Torres
I'll read all these eventually, thanks for collecting all the info
Juan Brooks
The fuck are you talking about, faggot?
Cooper Jackson
>exist thanks to free trade Free trade has historically meant taking resources from the 3rd world and manufacturing in the 1st. This is what created our material prosperity. All we want is a return to that dynamic
Lincoln Richardson
I'm not reading your obviously biased source.
Liam Ward
Chile is trying to tell us about economics?
HAHHAHAHHAHAH
Oh. You want more foreign aid don't you?
Jacob Murphy
Says a nobody on Sup Forums
Hunter Brown
>I'm not going to read because the conclusions disagree with my feelings!
This is how Trumpfaggots debate
Eli Wood
Fact is economists have no idea what the economy is going to do half the time. If they did they're be richer then Trump.
Cooper Lee
Yeah like the two walkie talkies obongo gave us in the 2010 earthquake. Thanks a lot.
We'll call you the next tsunami.
Landon Bennett
You're welcome
Landon Davis
I'll explain this to you simply, since I assume you have the average Chilean IQ of about 90
Free trade evens out commodity prices.
The majority of the American population sells labour and has an interest in keeping the price of labour high
Shitskin countries like your own have cheap labour
Free trade make labour price go down.
Jews in America don't sell labour and that means they don't care about price of labour
Jews support Free trade
Anthony Nelson
Why protect the jobs of nigger-tier whites? If a white person is on the right side of the bell curve, they should be able to get a non-labor job.
Evan Kelly
Lmao shut the fuck up you nigger go back to FUCKING GENDER STUDIES YOU FEMINIST CUNT HAHAHAHAHAHA ENJOY GETTING A JOB WITH THAT CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU GET ABSOLUTLEY MURDERED IN THE BLM PROTESTS WHEN TRUMP BECOMES PRESIDENTS AND SHOOTS ALL YOU KEKS HAHHAHAAHAHAH FUCK YOU!!! AHAHAHA
Currently about to transfer into economics... I find these posts very unsettling
Nathaniel Miller
They're just nazis, pal. Pay them no mind. Also, keep it Austrian and join mises.org/
Aaron Sanchez
Ignore them. Just ignorant, low IQ Trump supporters. Economics is legit.
James Stewart
I don't have time to read that paper in the lifespan of this thread jackass. If you've read it than explain how it invalidates what I just said.
John Reed
82330542 82330542 82330542 Daily reminder that this is a slide thread
Alexander Peterson
>We assume that the prices of goods from Japan, China and Mexico would rise by the entire tariff increase under the Trump plan. Just started skimming, already found bullshit. This completely ignores the synergistic efffects of supply chain re-shoring.
From what I've read this sounds like baseless fearmongering of the type we saw with Brexit.
Economics, like most soft sciences is prone to distortion and political agendas.
Jaxon Peterson
Destroy your borders, language and culture or else the economy get it.
Cooper Jenkins
Of course you do. You just don't want to, as you said yourself.
Jordan Jenkins
topkek
Hunter Clark
yea your an idiot that doesn't understand basic economics and also you are unable to process information correctly. idk how someone can be so stupid but w/e try to pick up some critical thinking skills
John Moore
Modern Economics was debunked by Sraffa 50 years.
Look up the Cambridge Capital Controversy.
James Sanders
>chile >opinion
Dominic Thompson
reminder that OP is not american and globalists do not have american interests at heart.
Aiden Hughes
Lol. There are so many low IQ Nazis on Sup Forums. It's pretty sad. You can't understand economics or finance so you just call it "Jewish magic" and therefore evil. You have to be purged.
Gabriel Johnson
Someone doesn't understand what "free" trade really means.
James Watson
>Taking financial advice from third world countries
Chase Thompson
see
Modern economists don't understand economics themselves.
Isaac Martin
From my reading so far >The purpose was to determine whether, in general, the duties were effective in discouraging imports of goods on which they were imposed or whether importers avoided harm by just switching their purchases to other countries.
Blindly assumes that Trump will only place tariffs on aforementioned nations
The study doesn't seem to take into account any secondary effects at all from increased blue collar employment. It's completely ignored.
It mentions export decline, but fails to take into account that most of our exports are in labour sparse, skill heavy industries that don't effect the common man.
Horrible, shit-tier study.
Juan Fisher
>His protectionist policies would be disastrous None of your links take into account the US workers made unemployed by your trade policies. They support 'trade at any cost' because they are all stockholders, not workers. Are you a stockholder, too? Or just uninformed?
Xavier Ramirez
I go to a top 10 research uni. Soft sciences are exaggerated and manipulated for political purposes all the time to attract funding.
Sebastian Barnes
>Malaysia >hotwheels
Christian Gonzalez
Address my issues with the report or admit that you are typical pseudo-intellectual libertarian retard.
Matthew Bailey
Hard science is being turned soft to get funding.
Oliver Parker
What's Hildog like? Does she laugh at your autism too but in that cackle?
Jaxson Morris
>We assume that the prices of goods from Japan, China and Mexico would rise by the entire tariff increase under the Trump plan
This is absolute bullshit. Probably written by some stoner undergrad, or tenured senile prof.
Kevin Sullivan
>Blindly assumes that Trump will only place tariffs on aforementioned nations
You haven't even read the whole paper.
Charles Diaz
Have you read anything by Nicholas Taleb? He's a WS trader-come-academic with fuck you money and he's done a lot to expose economics as chalatanry.
Economics at a prestigious school is a great major if you're going for high finance but as an actual discipline... it's one big fucking joke.
Gabriel Adams
Reading some of these (because why not). Not an economist, but I think I'm following along. Mostly the second one, since that seems to be what people are debating here.
I agree that tariffs and trade restrictions will be objectively detrimental to the US. This is unsurprising: to say that imposing restrictions would be a net gain, sounds dubious regardless of the context.
However, the paper fails to recognize that what matters isn't so much objectively what happens to the US, but also what happens to the countries in which we are imposing these tariffs. If we impose a tariff on China, for example, I'd suspect that we'll be taking a hard hit, but China will undoubtedly take a harder hit. It becomes a game of attrition.
That is to say, the goal was probably never truly cutting of trade with China to begin with. Trump is effectively gambling that China won't dare having their country collapse due to withdrawal of US trade, to possibly negotiate better terms between US-China relationships. Ones that ultimately give China more consideration, in that it'll probably further increase any dead loss occurred to setting tariffs.
Jacob Price
I'm not going to sit down and stare at a paper for two hours just to win an internet argument.
>McKinsey, one of the biggest globalist consulting companies out there >finally points out many are being left behind in terms of household income across the globe >globalization is a myth that's dying
Elijah Ross
The dead loss manifests itself in decreased GDP growth, which disproportionately impacts the wealthy and upper middle class.
As domestic supply chains regrow, blue collar workers in industrial regions now have more, not less money to spend on goods only marginally more expensive than their chinese competitors.
Of course this will be hindered by automation, but in conjunction with immigration restrictions, it will result in a real boost to quality of life for blue collar Americans.
Henry Gray
>chile
Isaac Gonzalez
These same economists said that 2007-2008 would be "a rough year, but overall okay for the middle class."