Tfw we could all be living in Muslim free nations if it wasn't for America making a crater out of the Middle East...

Tfw we could all be living in Muslim free nations if it wasn't for America making a crater out of the Middle East. They drop the bombs, we have to house the refugees who inevitably turn on us.

Fucking burgers.

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Tfw we could all be living in Emu free nations if it wasn't for Australia making a crater out of their habitat. They drop the bombs, we have to house the flightless birds who inevitably turn on us.

Fucking strayans.

europe could have closed their borders too

I agree, fat burgerniggers like to spin it as "muh muslims were always evil" but at least they kept to themselves until you fat cunts started sticking your hook noses where they didnt belong.

No one had to take them.

DESU senfampai, I would have turned the entire fucking region into Uncle Sam's Glass Works and Parking Lot.

We didn't make you drink the multicultural diversity rapefugees welcome Kool-Aid either...

If your proposition happened, Europe would still have to spend fucking tonnes to arm their borders and systemise border protection, and there would be attacks from what little middle eastern ethnic diaspora there already is from within.

In OP's proposition, America has a little big of fucking decency and none of this wouldl've happened in the FIRST place

Ask the Buddhists how true that is.

We'd also be living in an almost muslim free society, if the USA hadn't pressured us to accept the Gastarbeiter:
The first Gastarbeiter were recruited from European nations. However Turkey pressured the Federal Republic to allow its citizens to become guest workers.[1] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, was opposed to such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany needed no more labourers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. The German Department of Foreign Affairs carried on the negotiations after this, and in 1961 an agreement was reached.[6][6]

Many integrated well, worked, payed taxes. But since Erdogan went full snackbar, it is easy to see more and more radicals, more headscarfs and even full Ninja mode - although they are probably arabs.

that is true

No muslims had ever mass migrated to another part of the world before 1992

>K

Europe is doing this to get 'labor' to fund its entitlement systems anyway. Don't think 1 dimensionally.

Kikes got rid of the White Australia Policy and others like it because "muh racism" don't blame the venom blame the snake.

>Europe would still have to spend fucking tonnes to arm their borders and systemise border protection

that's the basis of civilization (building walls around you to keep the trash out), so I don't see why this should be a problem

Less money for their gimmes.

Or the Hindus
Or the zoroastrians
Or the coptic Christians
Or the byzantines
Or the kurds
Or the serbs
Or the other muslims
Or the Sikhs

Anyone who thinks Islam (and the jews, same shit different name) isn't a genocidal world domination cult is willfully ignorant

>but muh socialist welfare neet bux! I can't waste it on defending my borders and my people

It's not merricus fault that you and the peens are so spineless

Well honestly we figured the mudslides would die in the crater.

It was unforeseen.

We'll get it right next time.

France and Germany are just as much to blame as America.

>Tfw in every other thread the Europeans are saying Muslims aren't bad, and then make a thread about how pissed off they are for having to live with Muslims.

You guys are just as bigoted as the US, yet you're dumb enough to have let your countries sell you out. Well guess what... If the trump makes it, you're all gonna be spending more on your military and borders because the Don won't come to your rescue until you do no matter what Obummer says. If Hillary makes it, you're going to start seeing more refugees from the secret wars she'll wage and the government's she'll topple. So whine all you want, but it's time to stand on your own and walk like big boys and girls. Only you, and love for your country (aka Nationalism) can save you now. Millions of me have died for your country to keep its borders and you're all pissing on their graves letting yourselves be overrun. No matter who wins in November America loses, and we're going to take you all down with us when we do.

>All of us burgers collectively chose this
>It wasn't those in political/military power

the way you word it makes it sound like Erdogan is the problem. Not the US or Germany.

You are literally pulling the worst kind of dindu nuffin right now. Who the fuck elects those in political/military power? Are you a totalitarian dictatorship or something? Fucking no-free-will degenerate.

Urgh merican-baiting troll
Middle-east disruption has been consistent since the 1800s when French, English, American & many others won the Barbary war. The crusades and before have evidence of this shit going on for a long time.
The UK was involved in the invasion of Iraq recently and a lot of EU countries have been proven to support middle Eastern countries in conflicts, er Israel anyone?
The middle east is a concerted effort from multiple governments to keep the area down for there benefit and prosperity
The USA is not the only guilty party, troll-ass mother fucker

Have you noticed our political candidates? They both have historic low approval ratings and yet are the front runners for team red and team blue. We love in a """representative""" democracy that is run by money and corporate interests. No one asked us to all vote and decide on the CIA operations in the Middle East or any other decision of global importance. This is all obvious and you are naive and retarded.

Serbia you're drunk...

>Go see any one of the threads on the released dnc emails.

>The American government long ago released itself from the control of its people through propaganda and the elite funneling billions of dollars into politics.

We haven't been in charge for years man..... Hell look at weed. Most people believe it should be legal medicinally and over half think it should be legal period yet here we are. The fact the two people with the highest unfavorability ratings in history also got more votes than any politicians ever doesn't seem suspicious to you?

so american people dont vote ?

also dont you have guns in case your government is doing wrong ?

pussies

It's still brewing man. Most of us are living comfortable lives within the system. We work and have families. Even regular people are admitting it's getting out of hand though and are starting to buy guns and ammo. I honestly think shit might go down after the election. Can you see Hillary winning over the right, or Don the left? No. The loser will be told to shut up and take it and shit won't go well.

>when America does anything wrong it's the fault of the political class
>when the rest of the world does anything wrong it's because their people are cucks

Not schauble though, but America's lapdogs,the Eternal Anglos

You call us pussies, but you forget that you're French

Uh no it's because of their politicians most likely. But nice straw man anyways

I've never called someone a cuck on Sup Forums for this exact reason. You guys aren't any more in control of your countries than we are. Hell the Germans are arresting people for not liking people. Thought police in a nanny state. What we are seeing are the death throes of govt. Hopefully we'll all survive the kekining.

all these americans in this thread who thinks america is some kind of super based country and it dindu nuffin

>Tfw we could all be living in Muslim free nations if it wasn't for Brits being pussies and not eradicating the sandnigger menace two hundred years ago.

He's right you know.

People at the moment can't think that deep though, especially here these days. The only thought whizzing around their brain is "MAKE A GLASS CRATER OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST".

Blame the papacy.

Pretty sure no americans think America is a good country. Why do you think we have Donald. We'd literally rather give nukes to a madman on the off chance he might stop fucking us the way both sides have for the past 20-30 years.

>but at least they kept to themselves

Really?

they started keeping it to themself after they got BTFO

It's not a straw man when it's true. The majority of American posters on here seem to think this way

So let me ask you both one question. Who has the better odds of changing the political situation in DC? Me or you? Do you expect me to come there are start taking names? Serbia is not drunk, Serbia is sick and tired of you fat lazy faggots who can't control a handful of powerhungry cunts. Thanks to your 'don't give a fug' attitude, I had to spend my childhood in borderline poverty.

Are all your 360 something million citizens powerless? Then don't you fucking dare call yourself free or democratic. Either take out the trash or admit that you're a slave to a bunch of old faggots with money and suck their cock for years to come.

>A madman
Left leaning faggot detected

maybe the muzzies shouldve been exterminated completely by the holy roman empire

You forgot Christians

The British dismantled the Ottoman Empire.

>American understanding of history

Holy fug!!! I never thought of that before! Wow the idea of getting the American people informed and interested in the current political/climate we are in and then getting us all to vote or take action! Gee, it really took the wind out my sails with that post. Good thing all of us share the exact same opinions and values as a country - this "change" thing should be easy, haha! Go get Tunguskaed, Siberia.

why is there an immigrant surge now instead of 10 years ago at the height of america's bombing spree?

>Admit you're a slave.

This has literally what I've been doing this whole time. Also, the whole "blame America" narrative is not really getting any traction with US citizens anymore. So there's that. We call it the machine for a reason Serbia. They own it all from the top down. They control all the laws that are passed. They control all the media. They run everything and keep regular people too busy and to distracted to fight back. Revolution is all fine and good but how do I feed my kid during? Where is he gonna go (single dad) while I'm out blasting commies? I get you're pissed man but don't act like we don't know our country sucks.

The >hurr best country in the world. Faggots are just trolling because it's funny how untrue it is.

>Tunguskaed, Siberia
Can't decide if that's just the typical lame ass Americlap humor, or that signature pathetic American education at work.
>muh it's teh guv'ment, we can't do anythang bout dem guv'mnt peoples
That is an excuse you cholesterol ridden, pathetic excuse for a human being. When civilized countries don't like their government, people take care of business one way or the other. Only in United Cucks of America do fat fucks like you cry about the government while stuffing their face full processed foods. You inbred fuck. All of you are pussies, that's the main issue here. None of you genetically deteriorated inbred retards have the balls to take some responsibility for what your leaders are doing.

No I'm centrist. Hillary is just as retarded as Trump is in electability. In fact she would be worse since she has been waging secret war on the world for so long.

>if it wasn't for America making a crater out of the Middle East
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The issue is that while you're postponing any action because no one can guarantee your son's well being in that type of uncertain future, the rest of us are going through that exact scenario and no one even asked us if we wanted to be a part of it. When you're a superpower like US is, you have an proportionally larger responsibility to hold those in power accountable for their actions. A drop of water in DC is a tsunami by the time it gets here. But that's ok, right? My kid can go fuck himself as long as yours is fine.

people don't migrate to rich countries because of war, they only migrate for money

It was obvious that this American just wanted to tell you to fuck off. Frankly speaking - he has all the right to do so.

I share your thoughts, believe me. But we would never/never did stand a chance up against the MIC. It will happen someday I would hope, it won't be pretty and no one will win. A narrative shift here or there and we'll be bitched into place just like germany. Our pistols and rifles aren't going to save us from what they are willing to do to prove a point. 9/11 was BIG.

>muh gun control
>muh revolution

Right, brother. You can see why we'd rather reach a peaceful end to this, which we won't.

I agree, and I have all the rights to call him a lab rat tier faggot.

I dare to say that immigration NOT A PROBLEM.
The problem is those leftists who insist that those newcomers shall be excluded from the law system and will not be subjected to any punishment, that average Western citizen would get for the same crime.
Lets remember how it was(is) in UK - a gang from Pakistan systematically raped underage British girls - police knew and did nothing!
At the same time any white Englishman would he even try to look on naked picture of any underage girl would be hanged, drawn and quartered.

>Your country is bigger and has more money than ours. Fix the world.

You realize that it is this exact mentality that is helping Trump win. Even if the citizens wanted to help our elected officials would launder away the money for it and kill the people they are trying to help with some harebrained idea that will continue to line their pockets. Our government's idea of helping ends in exactly the world you are bitching about living in. Of course no one asked you if you wanted to live through it. That's how tragedy works dude, but americans can see our time is coming. Home farming is becoming popular again, more and more people are stockpiling weapons and supplies because we know it's our turn next. WE CANT FUCKING SAVE YOU, WE CANT EVEN SAVE OURSELVES. Get that idea through your head man. America is not going to ride in to save the day. Our government is out of control and drunk with power from its imperialist schemes. Game over dude.

I'm not saying that the problem you guys have over there is simple, it's far from it. But it still needs to be solved. You were wondering about your kid's future. What kind of life will he have, if the current ideology of foreign policy accidentally fucks with a wrong dude somewhere down the line? What if that rogue nation decides to retaliate in who knows which twisted way?

Peace is the ultimate goal, and trust me, I've had more than enough wars for a lifetime. I just urge you, no, I beg you to deal with your problem so that the rest of us don't have to swallow shit down the ladder.

you have more problems than America blowing up the Mid East. They're the ones pushing multiculturalism. It all originates from here. America is the worst country on the planet.

I doubt there is more leftists in America than in Europe.

>Your country is bigger and has more money than ours. Fix the world

That kind of arrogance and hubris is what makes you weak in the first place. I've never asked you for money, or to fix the world. I only asked you as a citizen of United States of America to hold your government accountable for its actions. Just by fixing that you will fix the world for the most part. You can keep your money, I don't take handouts. Never have, never will.

Don't blame us because your governments are cucked. We are taking out the trash so you don't have to. You're welcome.

I cant see how Serbian government helped Serbs to survive 90s either.

I dont blame america, i blame my own crazy country for letting them in

>it's a blame America episode
maybe we really should just let Europe cannibalize itself next war, thankfully Trump is all for stopping our babysitting and being friends with Russia

Maybe EU can work as a vassal state under one of us and we can be done with the issue

We took care of ours once we got fed up with the bullshit. We'll be doing the same thing again pretty soon.

>It isn't about quantity, it's about quality.

Here in America we steep our leftists in years of multicultural indoctrination from the time they are old enough to communicate to the time they graduate one of our "prestigious universities" they are fed propaganda and leftists lullabies from day one to ensure that double baked in leftism that makes them go out and push our agenda on those that don't follow it.

>What a time to be alive.

>being friends with Russia
Aren't Trump drinking too much?

it is a problem. we wouldn't need imigrants if our women would be making babies instead of doing shit jobs to be able to spend all of it on clothes and make up then complaining later that they can't make babies because they don't have enough money.

This is exactly how it goes in Europe.

Actually it's almost entirely the UK's fault. After WW1 and the ottoman rebellion, the UK, and in part the US, redrew all the maps in their favor to get the oil. They created clusterfucks like Iraq and Saudi Arabia.

Like how your south-border is closed?

Trump is right. NATO is a joke, and the US should pull out of its obligations because most of NATO doesn't do FUCKING SHIT EXCEPT RUN THEIR FUCKING CUNT MOUTH

I'm ready for a new era of American isolationism.

Let's just wall up and let the world go fuck itself.

You're right my bad I misread your post but my point remains valid. We are helpless. Anyone who calls out Hillary for the lying corporate blood soaked lapdog she is or criticizes Obama for running a silent war on the middle East is labeled a radical right winger and forced to political obscurity. Any mention of political corruption goes unheeded. Bernie and Trump are the closest we've come to calling them out but Bernie shilled and Trump may not win. We're doing what we can but at the end of the day the people in power get to count the votes Serbi-bro.

Burgers are the root cause of all problems in the world.

You are caught in a loop(hole) pun intended.
The moment when you would turn your women into breeding factories would be the end of your nation as Europeans, instead you will see exactly that Middle East like third world backwards society where human life worth less than a penny.

All of them are.

That's why it blows me away that the "welcome babies" loan program was dismissed out of hand as "Völkish".
>be Germany
>have labor problem
>the people you bring it to solve it have to be integrated into society, which is costly in both money and lives lost through terror attacks
>have solution that makes more already-integrated German babies
>"NEIN, DIE LÖSUNG IST GRUNDSETZLICH VÖLKISH UND RASSISTISCH."
Goddamn communists.

israel is the one who keeps baiting and lobbying us in to blowing up the mid east. they deserve at least part of the blame.

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The problem is not American geopolitical fuckery nor Muslims or Islam generally. The problem is that the secular West hates itself.

YEP1!

Actually they haven't created anything - people there already was, and they had history and their own culture and views on economy. For example famous Barbary pirates had fun just like modern Somalians and people in the West had to do something with that (aside of them being greedy and imperialistic).

Right, because you topple secular governments, support radical Jihadists, base your geo political strategy on ressources, reignite the cold war, (encircle Russia), because you "hate yourself"...

The neo cons and Killary hate themselves about as much as the black panthers.

You dont wanna see what will happen next day after dissolution of NATO.
Do not want!

Except for Asia

China is our new Cold War friend currently

Before Arabic Muslim hordes it was the Ottomans, the Berbers, Moors, etc. What the fuck is your point? America didn't colonize the Middle East and North Africa in the 19th century.

Except that you cant.
US economy based on trade and technological and cultural exchange. You cut off your ties and you're just another Mexico.

>Obama for running a silent war on the middle East
Lol, he is anything but running war there. All I can see - he is sitting his ass watching how Russia turn world into a shithole like itself.

Yeah and you would be a Jap rape baby so shut your mouth.

Israel still very useful for both US and EU and for all humanity as well. Unlike the rest of the Middle East.

>encircle Russia
Because otherwise Russia will encircle you. You're not gonna like that. In fact - go see East Germany for the remainder what Russian can do with any country.

No. We've been running a drone bombing campaign ever since he took office. He has faced a lot of criticism because of it Russ-bro. Take solace in that many conservatives like Russia these days and if Trump wins you can expect a boost in your economy.

>equip ISIS
>drone attacks daily to keep hatred up but with no higher level of involvement that might harm ISIS

Yeah no, Obongo is doing anything but sitting on his hand.

Half true, we reached a balance in the 60s but feminism was not a train that could be stopped and companies had everything to win at having both women as full time workers and consumers.

Sorry m8, couldnt hear you over my v8

Well: I have relatives in Germany. There is two sides of the coin, beyond the Sup Forums memes Russians actually became friends with Germans over all the decades of the GDR, good friends actually and the image of Russians among my East German relatives is very good. Obviously GDR as a political system was terrible, but the blame lies just as much with native German communists as with the big brother. It was the political system.

BUT the big difference was that the GDR did not play the game of collective guilt and the Auschwitz religion. Germans were included amog the victims of fascism and not brainwashed to be the eternal evil Nazi. Which is also why there is Pegida in Dresden and not in Frankfurt.

I also like Russian culture a lot and my best childhood friend was Russian-Dutch, so I might be biased. I think a good stability of powers would be best for everyone. But at this point Russia seems more sane with its allies in the Middle East: Iran and Hezbollah, instead of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel and proxy Jihadists.

It may change again soon, since it is all about power, influence and ressources for all of them.