"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy...

>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
- Simon Pegg

>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
- Alec Guinness

>"I don't think they are making [comic book movies] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Batman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its core. "
- David Cronenberg

>"I don't want to see or make films about super heroes that fly around in spandex and a cape solving the problems of the world. I think it's fine for children, children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin

>“They have been poison, this cultural genocide, Because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and shit that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.”
- Alejandro Iñárritu

>"Superman makes me vomit, Batman and all of that. That whole empire... this religion... It is so important that superheroes suffer... I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
- Alejandro Jodorowsky

>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
- Alan Moore

>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas

How do we save film?

wut

is the entire board reposts?

Pegg profits from nerd culture

Well, they're for kids. They are children's entertainment, like Sesame Street. But adults are free to enjoy them. The only one overthinking this genre is Zack Snyder. Seriously what is he doing, it's Superman for chrissakes. The story should be told- can only be told- like a children's cartoon.

What will the end results be of parents who force nerd shit onto their offspring?

Destroy Disney. Capeshit and Starshit isn't the problem. The problem is the serialization. Pumping out 1-2 movies a year in a franchise is the problem.

Death of mainstem nerd shit, generational change will kill it.

>Well, they're for kids. They are children's entertainment, like Sesame Street.

Says who?

>"Nerd culture is the product of a jewish conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
- Simon egg

>"A sweet-faced cuck of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a thousand times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the cuckold, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
- Alex Guinness

>"I don't think they are making [cuckold pornography] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Blackman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its inception. "
- David (((Cronenberg)))

>"I don't want to see or make films about super heroes that fly around in spandex and showing their junk to the world. I think it's fine for children, children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin

>“They have been poison, this cultural genocide, Because the audience is so overexposed to plot and small whites and shit that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.”
- Alejandro Iñárritu

>"The pornographic movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidedicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas

>"Superman makes me vomit, Batman and all of that. That whole empire... this religion... It is so important that superheroes suffer... I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
- Alejandro Jodorowsky

>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's genitals at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
- Adam Moore

>"lootcrate, more like redditcrate"
- Anonymous

>>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
>- Alec Guinness

So all old British actors are unbelievably huge faggots?

did you make that shit just up?

>- Alejandro Iñárritu
>Screaming for most of a movie Alejandro Iñárritu
>Most of the shit never happened Alejandro Iñárritu

Anti Capeshit shills are jealous they can't do what Marvel has accomplished

Fun was not allowed in the UK for many years.

Don't worry. When Apple buys out Disney it will all go away

Simon Pegg spends all of his time on screen making silly faces in a comedy abortion of a performance. I don't need his opinion on what is and isn't childish

It's possible or it could make it worse. Right now we're in the age of: "This is what you should like rather than what you should genuinely like!", being pushed on everyone by the media and news outlets.

His was the only comment that came off as retarded

yeah superheroes and space shit are totally a recent obscure thing and will die next gen.

goddamn you 90s fucks are delusional.

Ha! Nobody listened Alex Niggeruiness.

They're meant to be. Add as many adult themes as you want but they are made from comic books, which are for children.

But i thought justice league is supposedly a quipfest? so it shouldn't bother you then

>Right now we're in the age of: "This is what you should like rather than what you should genuinely like!",

Nailed it

Fedora shit

this

Haha, after Star Flop not anymore.

This.

I mean there's no saving Marvel from bad film making but Disney tends to ruin everything.

>dude we hate fun lmao
t. """intellectuals"""

Zack isn't over thinking it, he brings it back on the roots.
Superman was created by literally teenagers they were rare sort of good Jews which grew up in try hard environment, just like Zack.
But he became more simple when adults continued monetize it.

It's too serious. Imagine if Disney made the Superman movie. Blue skies. Optimistic Supes. Goofy Clark. A plot that a kid won't sleep through. It'd be entertaining and fun to watch is what I mean, not a weird, twisted bizzaro version of the Superman story we know and love.

I honestly don't get this, we'd just be getting more terminator reboots, transformers movies or shit like Independence day 2. Which are much worse. I just ignore the capeshit. It's so inoffensive.

But they're not even fun to watch they're just repetitive and ugly. How do you not get bored nigger?

>They're meant to be. Add as many adult themes as you want but they are made from comic books, which are for children

Once again, says who? The majority of people who buy comics are adults, and the same is true for movies.

But those movies you listed ARE capeshit

They're kino you stupid nigger.

They started reading it as schoolkids though. No one picks up a comic book for the first time as an adult and continues from there. I find that scenario impossible.

This is why they made movie about super serious Captain America who running helicarriers on civillains heads?

Snyderman is truest to Superman we ever had so far besides Lois and Clark series, which only shit because of special effects aged like milk.

So what you're saying is a director has a duty to impress as many people as possible since capeshit is inherently made for money and is therefore anti-art and shouldn't be treated as anything different like snyder is trying to do?

Well, you're wrong. Comic book shops get confused, deer-in-the-headlights adult customers all the time.

>children's entertainment

It is, there are edgy children and teenagers out there if you didn't get the memo.

>It is

Only you can't explain why.

It's not written or marketed with the sensibilities of children in mind.

Read the rest of the sentence and there's your explanation.

It's more about the essence of the character and story, and trying to create a definitive vision. What Snyder has done is wrong. What Tim Burton tried to do was wrong. Why overthink it and twist it? You get one shot to do it in the present day. Don't wait to tell the story properly in the reboot 10 years from now, tell the definitive story now. Today. Not experiment with a dark gritty version where he and Batman murder people. The Snyder movies are not about the true DC heroes. They're bootlegs with strange, unknown characters who are dressed up as our favourite DC heroes. I think deep down everyone knows this.

Smartphones and social media are to blame largely for this. People don't have the decency to actually go out and develop their own interests, tastes or personality but they'd rather just sit at home on their tablet or God knows what else and adopt a poorly manufactured one because it just so happens to be the current zeitgeist. And oh yes, don't forget that they just have to dye their hair a bright colour or have a shitty tattoo so that people will recognize how unique and special they are just because muh childhood series like Harry Potter told them they were.

I can only pray that they are resorting to shit like Capeshit and Star Wars as a coping mechanism means since I've noticed these same people are the ones who are thousands and thousands of whatever their own currency is in debt. Oh, you're struggling to pay off rent and support your family? Don't worry about that. Go and see the latest Capeshit movie, remember to tell everyone else how much you loved it and what a nerd you are.

I wonder how this behaviour will affect their offspring considering if they are pushing manufactured personalities onto them they are going to be so god damn screwed in the head when they get older.

No, that sentence does not explain what inherently makes comics for children.

Except they are.

It explains why the edgy joker face is still part of children's entertainment because it was written to cather to the edgy preteen/teen crowd that they want to keep as readers in opposition to the obviously childish plots from Superman and otherwise.
We could argue about graphic novels, but comics are inherently children's/teenager's entertainment.
But don't worry. It's okay if you enjoy it, you don't need to make comics be any deeper than they are just to hide your insecurity.

>Intelligent old men don't like things and are intelligent enough to make complaints that seemingly work
Socrates didn't approve of writing and made a good case against it. Doesn't change the fact its just disconnected people unhappy with whats popular.

>We could argue about graphic novels, but comics are inherently children's/teenager's entertainment.

Except you can't actually articulate why. Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

If anyone is insecure it's you for being unable to justify the claims you're making.

>It explains why the edgy joker face is still part of children's entertainment because it was written to cather to the edgy preteen/teen crowd

You could argue this with anything. "Sure, this hardcore snuff pornography SEEMS as though it's made for adults, but there are actually a lot of edgy teenagers out there who loves this stuff!"

Superman is L I T E R A L L Y a Jewish supremacist fantasy that turns Samson into an alien who is better than EVERY OTHER LIVING HUMAN because he is from a SPECIAL RACE and SPECIAL PLACE. The "noble Jew" trope is absurd at its core because of the rationalizations and excuses the Jew is required to make of himself in order to lord over others. There is no Krypton, and Jew Superman would absolutely kill everyone.

>We could argue about graphic novels, but comics are inherently children's/teenager's entertainment.
lol so Sandman is for kids but the amazing spider man volume 1 isn't?

No, you see, up until recently, people like you were kept where you belong, bullied and depressed. The normalization of your exploitation by the entertainment industry is nothing to feel smug about.

Lol no. Weak bait.

Weak post.
Just try to refute Superman being based on Samson.
Just try to refute the maker's own Jewishness.
Go ahead and rewrite history, you anti-semite.
There's been many articles about this although generally with a glowing appreciation for how Jewish Superman is.

Yeah, and they all are just product of strawmanship.
There's no superiority, Superman is average guy, which happens to have power to do what others can't to serve justice when corrupt laws can't. He is also bulletproof because father of one of Superman's creators was shot to death.

Alan Moore is right, the rest sound like unrefined shit talk or just talking shit.

You really need to be a fucking edgelord to agree with Jodorowsky and Moore's opinions, Inarritu is just a hack, Guinness was too old for this shit, Pegg is just paranoid, and Lucas and Friedkin are just butthurt. I only respect Cronenberg, but he is actually being kind of blind here. Still, I agree nerd culture is no art at all, but there are aspects of it that can be discussed as art

>Superman is not superior
>Superman is average
>but he has godly powers from god he is special but just like all the animal cattle masses and only he can be trusted to make life and death decisions for them because they are not special
Where are you going with this?
The Jew creators fetishize Jew superiority they were taught since birth.

>there are people in this thread right now at this very moment trying to argue that capeshit movies aren't designed for children

And they all probably wonder why they're still virgins.

It's funny how asshurt the redditors are.
Literally everything in OP is objectively true.

>there are people in this thread right now at this very moment trying to argue that capeshit movies aren't designed for everyone

And they all probably wonder why Marvelchads get all that normie pussy.

I SHIT ON THE UNITED STATES

It's funny how pretentious the maturefags are.
Literally everything in OP is objectively false.

>everyone
They are designed for each and every slave, all colors and creeds, shapes and sizes. All slaves are to enjoy all the wonderful picture shows and the variety of flavors is spectacular, all slaves will revel in the diverse myriad of flavors..

>“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
-C.S. Lewis; proud father, patriot, Marvel-fan, and Christian

>Marvel-fan

Prove that he wasn't.

All correct

Look how triggered you all get when someone points out that these movies are for children it's just downright pathetic

Look how triggered this dunce get when his shallow attempts at maturity are called out.

>Shallow attempt at maturity

That doesn't even mean anything, try again.

How do we save western culture from the adult child plague?

>Tolkien was bothered by the tales’ inconsistent use of mythological figures. Characters from classical myth are scattered through the stories, alongside figures from modern folklore and kiddie lit. He couldn’t see how a story could feature both fauns and Father Christmas, dryads and dragons, Baachus and Beatrix Potter-type talking animals. It was all too derivative, too contrived, too much of a poorly conceived, partially thought-out mishmash.

>Furthermore, Tolkien didn’t share Lewis’s love of children’s literature as such. While Tolkien appreciated fairy tales and myth, he didn’t think they should be relegated to literature for children. He disliked dream tricks (as Lewis used in The Great Divorce) to transport people into alternate worlds, and he mistrusted magical literary devices in which children popped into other worlds through mirrors, wardrobes, or rabbit holes.

>In short, Tolkien took myth more seriously. He built his alternative world from the ground up. Beginning with the language of the elves, Tolkien created the race that spoke the language, then conceived and carefully created not only the other races and their languages, but the whole world in which they lived, complete with its geography, history, and comprehensive myth. Tolkien may have been scornful of the rapidity and ease with which Lewis created his stories, but he was so not simply because the works were produced quickly, but because it showed

>Tolkien’s real objections to Narnia, however, run deeper. Tolkien disliked allegory, and the Narnia tales were too allegorical for his taste. Lewis protested that they were not an allegory (he had already written an allegory in his Pilgrim’s Regress) but an analogy. While it is true that the characters in Narnia do not have a one-to-one allegorical relationship with abstract truths, they do point clearly to greater truths and greater characters in the Christian story. Tolkien objected

jej at webm

>these movies are for children

That doesn't even mean anything, try again.

People are excited about things REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

they should be at the office, making more money for their bosses!

>"Hey check what we did while decorating Dovaakhiin's room last weekend ! I can't wait for him to grow up and become a nerd like his parents lol"

Yes, and?

Just because he's benefiting from shit doesn't mean he has to pretend it doesn't smell.

...

I'm sure the kid is literally living in a state of extended hell having tons of toys and parents who can share his interests with him.

>Money is everything. Money is all. Work. Work. Work. Leisure is a sin. The state is always right. Pay your taxes. Value nothing. Hypocrisy is fine. Money is life.

>Don't share anything useful with the child
>Just get him hooked on shitty slave fiction and flashy lights!

>I'm 15 and, like, such a rebel, man

>having a toy lightsaber means your child has nothing useful

so this is the power of normie logic

>Marvelchads

t. wagecuck

"C-c-can I please get the afternoon off Mr. Shekelstein, my girlfriend is going into labo-"
>"You'll be at your desk at noon, or you'll be on your ass by five!"
"Y-yes Sir, of course Sir! It's probably Jamal's anyway..."

Stupid faggotposter.

truth hurts huh, faggot?
come to my side of the hallway, and i'll give you a swirlie while wearing my hulk hands

In a hundred years you too can be Tolkien. Just point out that the Ninja turtles, Muppets and the Three Stooges don't belong together....

>>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
>Simon Pegg
As much as I might agree, he's a bit of a hypocrite, no? Pretty much everything he produces serves to embolden this sort of culture.

i want based jodorowsky to rape america, but with love.

I'd gladly pin up a gay porn poster over that, so I wouldn't commit suicide from cringe bullies.

Hypocrisy doesn't matter, he's getting money. Money is all that matters.

>Simon Pegg
Motherfucker was in the last Star Wars.

But BvS is exactly what the faggots in OP are looking for. And they fell for the meme of the people they supposedly hate.

It's especially funny for anyone speaking french to hate on him considering they appreciate films which are almost exclusively visual.

That jodorowsky quote is from the portion of the BBC4 Moebius doc made exclusively to shit on the USA and Stan Lee. They didn't show Jim Lee defending the art instead they showed Mignola cucking his country.

Yeah, ironically....

Take you smell of hate on this topic!

But there are so many different incarnations of those characters, snyder just added to that roster. Batman used to be seen as campy before frank miller and Alan moore came along, and those are widely considered to be the best batman stories of all time. So batman should be turned into a campy joke because that's what the original entails?

Seems to me that you're just upset that Snyder didn't give you the incarnation of batman that YOU wanted instead of his vision. And that's a point he makes in the film.

>DUSE IF A MOVIE DOESN'T PLEASE EVERYONE THEN IT'S OBJECTIVELY BAD, THE MAJORITY DICTATES WHAT'S GOOD AND WHAT ISN'T EVEN THOUGH THE MAJORITY ARE LESS INTELLECTUALLY SOUND THAN THE MINORITY