Couple questions about The Thing

Couple questions about The Thing.

How exactly does the thing "work"? Does it absorb a human and take their form? Does it kill a human and hide the body and take their form? Does it infect a human and with or without the human knowing their cells slowly turn them into a thing and they don't know until the thing part of them decides to "activate"? Who is in control once a human has been infected? How exactly does the process work?

Also, is MacReady or Childs a thing at the end?

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The exact details of the process are unknown.

I imagined that it broke down its victims and added them to its own biomass, splitting off in order to hunt for more mass to consume

this warrants a 3 movie prequel

Splitting off as in now there are two things? So one thing looks like the person they just absorbed and the other thing looks like...?

>How exactly does the thing "work"?
>Does it absorb a human and take their form?
yeah
>Does it kill a human and hide the body and take their form?
no
>Does it infect a human and with or without the human knowing their cells slowly turn them into a thing and they don't know until the thing part of them decides to "activate"?
yes minus the activate part
>Who is in control once a human has been infected?
the thing? they aren't a hivemind as far as we know, although in the book theyre psychic or something

People who have been infected aren't aware of that fact. The Thing doesn't need to absorb anything, it just needs to get its cells into the organism it wants to assimilate.

It assimilates itself. We don't know what the original thing is, could just be a single cell or a microbe.
Assimilation could be painless or it could be the worst thing in the world as everything in your body except your consciousness is taken over by the thing.

If the thing got loose it would assimilate everything in the universe until there is only the thing.

>Does it infect a human and with or without the human knowing their cells slowly turn them into a thing and they don't know until the thing part of them decides to "activate"?

We never saw this. It is speculated by the characters, but waht we see contradict it. We see Things creating NEW bodies inside themselves after eating the old ones. We see the same between a cell and a Thing cell. It's unknown if that process would work on a cellular level for the purpose of turning a complete human into a Thing from the inside out. My guess is that it would, but by crating another body inside the old one that would break out of the original body when mature enough.

Why did Fuchs burn himself then? He knew he was infected and began to turn

Does the Thing somehow absorb a person's memories when it assimilates them? How is it able to mimic them so faithfully otherwise.

>My guess is that it would, but by crating another body inside the old one that would break out of the original body when mature enough.
pls leave your shitty vore fetish out of this.

Assimilation of brain matter keeps synapses intact I guess

We don't know if Fuch ever burns himself. That was just MacReady's assumption

They should make a movie where scientists try to find the Thing's homeworld and meet the species and find out why they visited us.

Wouldn't assimilating a brain so perfectly to mimic them also give the Thing sapience? Wouldn't become aware of the immorality of it's behaviour?

lol no

Who says it isn't already sapient? Once it has enough biomass anyway. And why would it care about morality, morality is about whats good for society.

I just watched both films for the first time, and the first one was genuinely great. Just a classic high atmosphere horror film with an intriguingly mysterious science fiction element.

The second one wasn't terrible, but it lost out on the atmosphere which was the main drawcard of the first, as well as replacing the genuinely unnerving puppets with CGI. Going on the alien ship also undid most of the mystery, though I read that it was going to be very different in the original cut.

Well if it gains an organism's memories, especially a human's, than it would also become sensitive to the human experience and concepts like pain and empathy.

Is every single thing cell its own thing? Because during the bloodtest scene when MacReady drops the blood we see it moving on its own on the floor, slithering around and such. So if a thing realized its being killed, could it just release a body part half the size of a pinky toe to slither around and keep infecting hosts?

It becomes aware of them and even uses them to its advantage such as when using distrust in the group to single out victims, but that doesn't mean that it becomes sensitive to them.

>could it just release a body part half the size of a pinky toe to slither around and keep infecting hosts?

Doesn't it try to do that when it detaches the head of one of the men it infects which turns into that weird spider thing.

The Thing is above even that. You think you know sapience? It has absorb countless brains more advance than that. He is the sapience

Yeah that's why I think its a huge fuckup when MacReady throws dynamite on the burning Palmer-thing. The blast just spreads hundreds if not thousands of tiny things.

It is our universe. Our true goal. It was wrong for MacReady to try and kill it.

Can Thing'd people recognize other Things?

For example two guys get Thing'd. Would guy A recognize guy B as a Thing, or vice versa, despite them both having been assimilated?

Let's say there's 10 people. Person 11 is a thing and joins the group. P11 infects P4. P4 infects P6. P11 infects P9.

Do all the infected know of each other? Can they stick together in order to influence group decisions or is each infected/thing just fighting for themself?

Holy shit are you me? Are we things?

Yes, presumably. It seems like the Thing has some kind of hive mind or psychic connection which works at a cellular level.

In the novel they say that anything thats not a majority turns into some form of autonomous state, so thing A seeing thing B would be same as looking into a mirror

The thing's cells replicate host cells; though, in the simulation they fucked up because it showed the thing cell destroying every cell it replicates 1:1, i.e. if there are 10 cells, the thing will replicate the first cell and destroy it, then replicate another cell and destroy it, etc. etc. and it leaves just one cell left.

When a person has become infected, they'll eventually lose control of their system -- it's not clear if a person is aware of such a change.

And, either could be a thing at the end but I really dislike people "analyzing" the movie poorly to reach their "Childs is a thing" conclusion.

No lamb offer it's neck to lion. The Thing got cocky and went full final boss, and got rekt as a result. Then again it probably just wanted to go to sleep until the next encounter

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Why does the thing violently assimilate people? Why not intfect them via food or drink and slowly take over their body?
Along that some line, could a person be half-Thing ie only a portion of their cells are Thing cells while the rest are their own naturally formed cells?

They act as one, they would combine like oil in water

That would immediately destroy the cover of every single host.

I think they did both? The Doc got the stealth assimilation, didn't he?

did I said they'd do it inmediately?
the things is only one
doesn't matter if he's in a thousand different bodies
it's just one concious that wants to infect and merge with everything

You hype?

>We never saw this.
>We don't know
Who's we ?

You said like oil in water. Oil doesn't wait.

Can the Thing assimilate plantlife? I know the Thing in the original film was some kinda plant monster, but I dunno if that is canon with Carpenter's film.

I get it. That's funny.

Nigger

What did The Thing mean when it said "It's clobbering time!"?

>Why does the thing violently assimilate people?
Because he got reduced to a brute dumb being, with countless of entire civilizations of knowledge lost, so he had to act in primal manner

Time, time doesn't wait

It's literally a sentient cell that can replicate itself at extremely fast rates under the right environment that also tries to stay alive by any means necessary. Replication occurs when it's inside an organic host, changing it in many ways it wants to at the time.

>Replication occurs when it's inside an organic host, changing it in many ways it wants to at the time.
so if the ship would've crashed on the amazon would we've had some kaiju movie or what?

Does any of that matter?

Does any movie matter?

It only seems to turn into a big monster when threatened. It prefers to be sneaky when assimilating organisms. Maybe under certain conditions it would turn into a huge monster.
It would be much more dangerous had it crashed landed in the ocean imo

does your life matter?

why didn't any hollywood jew made a sequel with this premise? is it because they already did Evolutrion with that giant thing at the end?

Plenty of reasons. The movie was a financial failure on its release, and it's not something as recognized as Alien or other similar horror/monster scifi. Because of how contained the first film was, it also doesn't really lend itself well to sequels. The remake (even if it included the practical effects) was heavily uninspired and treaded the same ground of the first film without adding anything new or interesting. The Thing was as much about the atmosphere and emotional drama of its characters as it was about the creature horror, which is something the remake completely misses.

How many people forgot this movie had a prequel released not too long ago?

It isn't forgotten so much as ignored

you watched the second and third remakes.

The brain is left running mostly as it was until The Thing takes max control and somehow changes into a monster form. At that point it becomes a fairly senseless monster.

It is you that is a senseless monster, the Thing is the true existence and we should all assimilate to things. So that it is only Thing.

t. Seele

it isnt canon

If I remember well the book explains how The Thing does it.

they also explain his tax policy, the book is so much better

>People who have been infected aren't aware of that fact

Totally unaware, just like those dogs were totally unaware

What else was he supposed to do?

Keep using the flamethrower?

Is this some kickstarter garbage?

(((Seele)))

Things don't recognize other Things, pay attention next time

isnt it sapient? in the book (i think it was), the thing communicates with the others telepathically and is confused by why they want to kill it

man the thing 2011 had some of the weirdest horrifying deaths.
imagine being that chick, your entire body turns into a thing and you just get slung back, experiencing everything, possibly in pain and in horror and confusion while your body acts on its own and kills others.

Same thing with the fusion thing that attaches his face to the other. jeesus

easy, Sony.

inb4 that edgy short story is brought up as evidence

>muh rape it into them

>studios will never have the balls to do a sex scene/thing assimilation

I'm torn between whether it should be the standard vagina dentata or more like a tentacle urethral insertion

>urethral insertion
this is the most horrifying thing in existence
can't believe some fags do it

The Thing would gets straight to the point if they had already gone somewhere secluded to root.
You think the alien cares about human sex? It's only goal is to reproduce its own way, and sex isn't necessary

Have you no imagination

>sleeping thing/woman
>guy walks in
>rape scene
>thing reacts

similar to how the thing reacted during the defibrillator scene

>he hasn't seen Species

The thing imitates, the infected person is no more once it takes over.
In this case, the thing would only imitate until it was only him/her and the girl/guy in a nice quiet place to fuck.

>scenario 1
Thing person attacks human person and puts tentacles inside them and pumps thing cells into them. Human person becomes assimilated after a while.

>scenario 2
Thing person attacks human person and completely devours/absorbs them and from then on can take the form of that person.

Which scneario describes how it works? And if it's scenario 1, how fast does it work? Does the human know it's being assimilated after the attack? Does the human not remember the attack? Is the human immediately a thing?

fuck that was another giger monster
fucking cgi ruined it

Shit, misunderstood what you said. Yeah that'd be a pretty cool scene actually.

Direct that shit

It's scenario 2

But then how are there more than one thing in the movie?

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the thing can split apart on a cellular level, did you watch the movie?

If the thing absorbed A and the group kills A-thing how can there be more things?

Things in movies that should not exaclty be explained:
1) how the force works (midochlorians)
2) backgroundstory of aliens
3) how the thing works

Just don't. It will make everything worse.

The Thing is a shape shifting organism, but it must come into contact with its host in order to begin the process of analyzing and copying its cellular structure. To do this, the cells begin digesting and replicating the host, eventually taking over the entire body. The Thing will also only assimilate freshly killed or still living prey; any organism that has been dead for an extended period of time will be ignored by it. This may be due to it being largely ineffective to more intelligent prey if it mimicked a member of their society that was known to have been killed. Alternatively, it may rely on the blood stream to rapidly assimilate prey. Copper was killed by the Norris-Thing biting off both his hands, and so presumably was exposed to Thing infection yet his corpse showed no signs of "reviving" as an imitation (post-mortem blood test was negative). Presumably he bled out so quickly that the infection had no time to spread before his biomass was rendered useless by death.

After The Thing has assimilated a creature it is capable of imitating them exactly with all memories, characteristics, and habits. Even defects like Norris' weak heart are replicated. When a part of The Thing becomes cut in two, both of those pieces become their own creatures and operate separately. For example, when the Norris-Thing's head grows legs and attempts to escape. The replication varies depending on the occurrences at hand and whether or not the attacking Thing is smaller or is injured. If the assaulting Thing in question is injured in any way, much smaller than the prey or under pressure, it will usually just add the bio mass to itself and either mimic the prey or add the mass to its original frame to increase its size and strength to counteract any threats within the area. If however the Thing successfully assaults the prey in a safe location, it will just feed on the prey and make a copy of the victim then revert back to its cover before searching for another victim to assimilate.

m8 what are you on about?

>inb4 that edgy short story is brought up as evidence
Too late

No, just a new board game that was announced.

You said it's scenario 2 which means it's one thing that simply absorbs people into it. So if they kill that one thing how can there be more?

How do we stop Ridley Scott?

because at the start of the film there's already multiple Things

>the dog
>the two faced corpse

Is this official or just some kind of fan project?

I for one am glad based John Carpenter never jumped into the prequel train

So it completely absorbs an organism and then splits into two?

Official.

>mfw whole thread is people who don't fucking get it
The point is: none of the answers to those questions matter
Knowing more about the thing makes it way less scary