New BCS ep

Finally got around to watching the new episode.

Thoughts?

What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?

It was nice to see Mike's family again

What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?

Gus' cover story was obvious, but well executed

What were the pictures Mike took supposed to be of? Showing that Chuck is deranged or something?

Was the Handyman magazine Mike was reading at work supposed to cull or questions about why he could fix the door? Either way, I liked it as a lil detail.

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>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?
None
>It was nice to see Mike's family again
No it wasn't.
>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?
They suspected Chuck had made a copy and that's how they found out for sure. What they're gonna do with this information is unknown exactly.
>Gus' cover story was obvious, but well executed
It was kind of stupid.
>What were the pictures Mike took supposed to be of? Showing that Chuck is deranged or something?
Apparently the pics will be used to show that Chuck is mentally unstable and thus Jimmy had to lie to him and break in to his house for his own good.
>Was the Handyman magazine Mike was reading at work supposed to cull or questions about why he could fix the door? Either way, I liked it as a lil detail.
That's how he learnt about door fixing. He also took an interest in "fixing something for once" so he read through the whole mag.

>>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?
>None
Why not? Having a small-fry muscle in on your big earners supply route is probably not what the javier wants. That's not to say that Hector shouldn't be helped out, but trying to muscle the star quarterback is not the way to do it.

>it's a Mike spends 59 minutes fixing a door episode

>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?

i think theres some legal loophole that if the original wasnt destroyed they cant use it as evidence

swrtc.nmsu.edu/files/2014/12/New-Mexico-Rules-of-Evidence.pdf

someone else help me skim through this

>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?

Chuck will try to get Jimmy disbarred, Jimmy will present evidence of Cuck's insanity, and get Cuck disbarred and/or commited.

Chuck is prevented from practising law, Jimmy is allowed to continue. Exact opposite of what Cuck intended.

>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?
>It's a Jimmy calls bingo and gets nothing but B's for 25 minutes episode

Further, the BINGO moment was them making sure that Chuck intended to have him disbarred. Giving them prime opportunity to disbar him.

Remember Chuck is trying to use the recording on the tape to disbar Jimmy. Jimmy was charged with destruction of property/assault. Two different things.

>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?

???? We alaready know Gus fucks up Hector and somehow makes him his bitch

>It was nice to see Mike's family again
Annoying daughterinlaw, most bland character in a show full of them. very unlikeable and whiny and I want to see her titties

What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?

>Gus' cover story was obvious, but well executed
We already know that from BB

>What were the pictures Mike took supposed to be of? Showing that Chuck is deranged or something?
I FF that part I had a pornhub tab open and was in a hurry

>Was the Handyman magazine Mike was reading at work supposed to cull or questions about why he could fix the door? Either way, I liked it as a lil detail.
Ok

Maybe it'll end up there, with Chuck getting committed and Jimmy changing his public persona out of guilt or something.

Fucking Chuck, what an asshole

is there a legal way for HHM to take advantage of this so that they dont have to cash chuck out?

>an 85 year old grandpa doing fucking James Bond shit
>he would still be doing more in Breaking Bad 10 years from now

Also in truth even if they play the tape given Chucks mental state jimmy could just write it off as having lied and come up with a lie retarding the destruction of the copy

Insane or not he still owns his share. Disbarred or not he still owns his share.

what was on the tape?

no what i meant if he gets disbarred and hurts the company image

Yeah thats what I mean, they will have to prove Chucks failing mental state not just to get him disbarred but to prevent Jimmy from getting disbarred.

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Wont make a difference, he still owns his share. If we own a business together and I get caught drunk driving, that may reflect poorly on the business and you by extension resulting in reduced value to your share. Unless there was some stipulation in the partnership agreement, I would not be obligated to sell, regardless of how negatively that affects you.

Jimmy admitting he doctored the Mesa Verde file which lead to them leaving Chuck as their lawyer and hiring Kim. It also lead to Chuck having a mental breakdown (which ended up being just a cover to get jimmy to admit exaclty what he did on the tape).

>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?

Remember the way Hector looked like in Breaking Bad? And the fact that the police mention he's retired/disgraced? Don Eladio isn't going to be happy when he finds out, but considering the way he and Gus meet in Breaking Bad I don't think Eladio they're going to meet in BCS

can't find anything in this

but this guy seems promising: cases.justia.com/new-mexico/court-of-appeals/2015-33-057.pdf?ts=1426011103

Well, his stuff isn't all that reliant on physical feats. He mostly just uses his noggin. Also, you sort of have to imagine he's about 10-15 years younger.
But yes, it does sort of ruin the immersion at times.

This show fucking sucks. It should have been a comedy spin-off instead of the "not BB" shit prequel that literally nobody wanted.

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>Jonathan Banks is only 9 months older than Michael McKean

>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?
I think they might try and say this shows intent that Chuck was trying to goad Jimmy into the actions he took otherwise why would he make a copy and then place it in the drawer? Why would he keep the copy in the drawer (as if it was the only tape) with the original safely under "lock and key" unless he knew that Jimmy might break in after he found out what he did?


>What were the pictures Mike took supposed to be of? Showing that Chuck is deranged or something?
Yes. His house is stripped of wires and he is using camping equipment indoors and leaving it on highly flammable material. When Jimmy got there before he admitted to the Mesa Verde stuff Chuck was literally covering his walls to prevent muh electrical waves. Jimmy can use how he's living and his actions that day to try and spin it and say he was lying about all that stuff to bring his brother out of a psychotic break.

Well yeah they directly addressed Jimmy's words, "but you feel better, right?"

>hmm I wonder what is the most difficult and roundabout way to accomplish this simple task so I can live out my james bond mcguiver fantasy

not sure this applies. This has to do with a handwritten transcript of a text message chain vs. the actual texts themselves.

They didn't have the originals while Chuck does. The tape was presumably an exact duplicate. Although we don't know if it actually is a dup since we never heard it, but I don't see why they can't just put the tape in a new casing and listen to it.

why is his head so forward

Why do people act like there is no character development, when last episode Kim agreed to do something illegal/morally wrong to get information on Chuck?

I'm not too clear on whether or not Kim knows what Jimmy was going do with the info of who was fixing the door.

>let me just stand next to the doorway here
>surely the proximity of the cordless's sound won't alert him to the fact that I'm not where I'm supposed to be
>surely I won't look like a moron on the off chance he walks in here to check out why the fuck I'm standing so close to this doorway

>le clever 80 but still strong mike-man knew what would happen all along

She asked if "his friend" was up for the job or something.

>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?

Gus will not allow it. Hector will try to sabotage Gus's business openly and the cartel boss will punish him for it. Hector doesn't have the type of subtlety needed to sabotage Gus without it being traced back to him.

>What was 'BINGO' about Chuck having made a copy of the tape and Jimmy having destroyed the copy?
In law, an origianl recording of people is considered evidence.... but any copies made of that evidence are not considred to be evidence. Since Kim now knows that Jimmy did not destroy the original (and likely she recording Chuck saying it), they cannot punish Jimmy for destruction of evidence, just destruction of property.

>What were the pictures Mike took supposed to be of? Showing that Chuck is deranged or something?
Yes, they are going to make a case for Chuck being batshit crazy and Jimmy fessing up an "imagined crime" just to keep Chuck from going off the deep end. The pictures illustrate that Chuck is not right in the head with all the wiring ripped out and kerosene lamps being used (unsafely) indoors.

>(and likely she recording Chuck saying it)
Surely they can't use that in court?

>any copies made of that evidence are not considred to be evidence

That isn't necessarily true. see >A “duplicate” is “a counterpart produced by a mechanical, photographic, chemical, electronic, or other equivalent process or technique that accurately reproduces the original.” Rule 11-1001(E). A duplicate is typically admissible to the same extent as an original. Rule 11-1003

But this is a 2015 ruling, so idk how it affects this situation.

Did Jimmy play the tape when he found it? I can't remember.

This is also the point of the poignant apology speech and then when asked why he's apologizing like that his response is "but you feel better, right?" with a look of deep concern on his face.

He's making the case that his brother is nuts (which is true but he's more of a rational nuts than the court will believe) and that he confessed to something imaginary to help his brother cope with his mental woes....

>Surely they can't use that in court?

>a state appellate court held that the transmittal of the contents of a face-to-face conversation recorded through a device concealed on one of the participants to the conversation was not the type of eavesdropping activity criminalized by the state wiretap statute. New Mexico v. Hogervorst, 566 P.2d 828 (N.M. Ct. App. 1977).

No. As far as the audience knows that tape could be completely blank.

Really only Chuck knows if he made a copy of the original

Then why was Chuck not able to use his tape as evidence? Because it wasn't on his person?
Will Chuck be lying about a second tape?

Goddamn bro. Are you a lawyer? You seem to be pretty sharp on the finer points of legality here.

Spends too much time on Sup Forums.

>why was Chuck not able to use his tape as evidence?
I forget, I'm going to go back and check really fast.

no, I just skimmed a link someone else found.

And the second one I just googled "New Mexico one party consent" and it's in the first link.

I'm sure knowing that Chuck made an original will have some bearing on the bar hearing, but as Chuck and Howard said the bar hearing doesn't have the same rules of evidence as an actual court. I'm interested to see how it plays out.

>It's an Mike watches saturday morning cartoons for 48 hours episode

>Mark Margolis is actually 7 years older than Banks
>looks better

[exhales externally]

Am I the only one that was annoyed with the scene where the truck driver got out of the truck after the tires popped and suddenly Mike *teleports behind u*?

My question is what gave Hector the debilitating stroke he had before the events of Breaking Bad. Was it a natural phenomenon or was it something Gus has done?

Theories? I think perhaps Gus somehow gave Hector some poisoned meth in a dose that he knew would cause serious damage but not be fatal..... after this point Tuco seized control of the Albuquerque operation.

I just went back.

Chuck could try to use the tape as evidence but Howard says that the tape is problematic to get it admitted because of how it was obtained.
>Secret recording
>chain of evidence problems
>jimmy would say it's not him
>call experts to say it was edited in some way

Basically, Chuck was planning on using this to get Jimmy disbarred from the beginning because he knows the bar association has a lower threshold for what they'll admit. He just had to get Jimmy in enough trouble that he'd have to go before the bar.

It's probably just going to be down to the stress Gus puts him under by fucking up his business.

I think Chuck basically wants Jimmy disbarred because of the damage he's doing to the family name.... this will probably get to the point that it looks like it will be a messy legal stalemate that neither really wants, so Jimmy may offer to practice law under a different name to spare Chuck the shame.

>it's a Mike cuts out coupons for 59 minutes episode

I'm not sure it's just the family name but Chuck has some very strong feelings about the purpose/philosophy of the law. It's almost like a religion for him and he sees Jimmy as shitting all over it.

These memes are funny. But admittedly, they don't hold up compared to the new season.

This season, from the very first episode, is the fast paced action we wanted to see from the beginning. It feels a lot like Breaking Bad now and that's what we were wanting (and disappointed by) since the beginning.

They made Chuck object to the tape not being added.

They made him put in that the tape was destroyed, into a legal document.

The tape was not destroyed.

Chuck lied, and he can't go back on it due to his insistence in the hearing that it be added to the lists of damages.

Jimmy is going to the bar, and is going to pull some fuckery. Either take chuck down with him, or something.

How was he supposed to get coke on the truck to trigger a search then?

>Inb4 lol just walk up and sprinkle it on there duh

does it say THE tape or A tape? A tape was destroyed but not the original.

Besides, I'm not sure that anyone besides Chuck, Jimmy, Kim, and Howard know what's on the tape. And I guess Ernie knows some of what's on there. I think Chuck wanted it to be a big reveal at the bar hearing of why Jimmy would want to destroy this tape.

What a stupid nitpick. He knew Chuck was deathly afraid of electricity so it was not a risk at all.

Are you just a samefag that hates Mike or are people really this obnoxious about nothing.

"The tape of incomprehensible legal worth."

It's both of those and also Chuck is a jealous prick.

>What repercussions will there be for Hector trying to move in on Gus' supply route?
salamanca is going to have a stroke
thats the reprecussion
that whole story line is about how he ended up in the wheelchair

>Jonathon Banks dies or goes completely senile before the show is over

How does Vince handle it?

>"I got it vince, check this out. Cold open. Camera slowly pans up in the Albuquerque desert, tumbleweed drifts across the road. Camera stops on a billboard with "BOZO THE CLOWN COMING TO ALBUQUERQUE" written on it along with a giant clown face."
>Vince: go on...
>"Ok, so at this point the audience is hooked right? They're thinking THOSE RASCALS THEYVE DONE IT AGAIN! I CANT WAIT TO SEE HOW SOMETHING AS WACKY AS BOZO THE CLOWN CAN BE TIED IN WITH A SHOW ABOUT A LAWYER. And BOOM, we hit them with the opening credits"
>Vince edges up on his seat, nods fervently
>"The next 30 minutes will be a slow burner scene with Mike visiting hardware stores and then mixing paint in his house. Its ok the audience loves DIY shit.
vince: continue...
>"Ok then cut to mike painting a clown on the billboard. And at this point the audience will be like "HOLY SHIT. WE'VE CAUGHT UP WITH THE OPENING FLASH FORWARD".
>vince: genius...
>"So mike looks at his watch, sees it's about time and puts on his clown make up. And then we cut to the drug dealers. Now the drug dealers, they're playing mariachi music in their truck. The camera focuses on a little mexican bobble head with a sombrero. The audience loves this shit too, they think it's the epitome of cinematography.
>vince is jotting this down furiously
>"So they're driving down the road when they see the bozo the clown billboard and they point at it and laugh at how ridiculous it is. They keep driving and come across a broken down car. And who comes out of the car?
>vince: NO. Don't tell me
>"WHY ITS BOZO THE CLOWN OF COURSE! but since they saw the billboard earlier they'll think it's completely natural and won't suspect the thing. So mike flags them down in their clown costume and asks for a ride. He tells them he has to attend a kids party in mexico but his car broke down. They let him on. And what does the madman do? He rubs his face against their seat. But the white powder on his face isn't clown make up...it's COCAINE"

>she will never sit on your face

Did you think this was funny or did you realize it wasn't halfway through and just write something to finish it up anyway?

Chuck has always been very jealous of the fact that Jimmy has been able to do more with charisma alone than he ever got done with hard work and following the rules. He resents him for that.

It's hard watching your loser brother, whom you've always perceived as not trying, go further.

This is something that's actually very common when you have a family that has a likable slacker and hard working, yet unlikable, sibling.

Chuck is sick of being out-shined.

Though these are never motivations that he'd admit to himself, I guarantee they contribute more to Chuck's vengeful mentality than respect for the law or thinking Jimmy will desecrate the family name.

>Saul Goodman
>S'all good man

>LE EBIN EPIC MIKE BADASS REDDIT STYLE

Why the fuck is Kim still with Jimmy? He fucked up the job that she handed to him on a platter, gets her fired from her job, completely fucks over everyone around him, and yet she still decides that it is a good idea to work alongside him?

Wall of green text is funny some times, but 9 out of 10 times is shit like that or

>just a taste, James

She loves him.

I actually think that's the one of the best parts of the show. There's a lot of love between Jimmy and Kim, but it's understated because they both put their career first. They probably don't even consider it an official relationship....

...but it's so much more human and charming that way. This show is actually remarkable at showing a love story without any of the traditional hallmarks of a love story. They've shown Jimmy hanging out with Kim at her place a couple of times and they cuddle and fuck, but outside of that there's very few open displays of affection.

But their the subtlety of their mutual support and interactions speaks volumes.

Bravo, Chuck made his claim upon oath/affirmation (an attorney doesn't have to notarize shit himself, though he can notarize things for other people). Lying under oath = instant disbarment when the evidence is clear and uncontested as it would be in this case
>ima law student

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Stop projecting, insecure redditfag.

Is this the best retort you could come up with?

Chuck perjured himself in front of a ballbusting black Assistant AG who believes that Attorneys have to be held to a higher standard. Pottery.

diane pls go

>knowing that you should google something like "one party consent"
>not a lawyer
>On Sup Forums
>Probably a criminal

>Jimmy has been able to do more with charisma alone than he ever got done with hard work and following the rules

I'm not sure I'd agree with that. Chuck is a founding partner of HHM and one of the most well respected legal professionals probably in the entire state. Jimmy is a relative newcomer. Chuck just doesn't think he did it the "right" way i.e. how Chuck did it.

>these retards thinking that reading legal statues will somehow tell them what happens in a tv show

lmao guys, here's a free tip. It's fiction. They just make it up as they go. They can even do things in the show that aren't actually things real lawyers would do.

Chuck flat out said he doesn't think Jimmy is a real lawyer because he became via correspondence and because of that he should act like one.

So what your saying is using my vast intellect I should just represent myself in any legal matter?

Really hope Jonathan Banks doesn't die before the series wraps

he'll be fine

They said one party consent in the episode you fucking dip

right. Chuck's way is the right way and Jimmy didn't do that and how dare he try to rise above the mail room.

replace him with patrick stewart and pretend nothing happened

Why are you responding with hostility lol?

I'm channeling my inner Chuck.

>mike suddenly grows 2 feet and gets a brand new accent
i would totally pretend like nothing unusual happened just to see pstew on tv

Mark Margolis (Hector) and Michael McKean (Chuck) aren't exactly young guys either. I'd say there's a pretty decent chance that one of the old men on the show will croak before it's finished....

Then they have to do their best to find a substitute or kill them off screen.

I suspect Gus' plan is to control the drug distribution, this making Hector depend on him whilst growing in popularity with the cartel

Wow, we got a regular old psychic here.

Maybe he will slit the throat of his Mexican errand boy too!

maybe plebs wanted the fast paced action of breaking bad.

patricians recognized that this was a completely different character driven show.