What is the point of having so much of undeveloped land?

What is the point of having so much of undeveloped land?

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This would be more than enough

so they can be large enough to geographically connect with the central asian nations so one day they can all be united under one banner once more

Ostpreußen is German
And also that doesn't give them any blue water ports, Vladivostok is really important for Russia
They are already very limited by ocean access

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If China made a move to annex Siberia or the Far East, Russia's only option would be a full scale nuclear exhange because it lacks conventional power and presence in those regions.

Not any more it isn't

what if the US and Canada joined CSTO?

maybe there are resources?

>what is logistics and chinese tactics
we would be able to defend with ease

> Vladivostok is really important for Russia
Yeah and it's connected to moscow only with one railroad. In case of war enemy can quickly cut their connection to Vladivostok and then what?

USA is economically too dependent on China to antagonise them and Canada is well on its way to become SAR 3. Plus your scenario is way too stupid in the first place.

lol stupid fucking sudaca, siberia aint got shit for resources besides the ones that come from the earth.

so that they can exploit it, mine it, deforest it, and sell all those raw resources for peanuts in order to fund a cocky foreign policy
that's what i don't get about russia. they have nukes and could get by easily with never building another tank or fighter plane, and use that money to actually develop a modern economy
they could easily have 3 times the gdp they had if they stopped exporting raw materials like some third world shithole

> what is logistics
Lmao yeah tell me about your logistics in case of war with china

Natural resources

And then they fall back to use that land as an attrition weapon
Just like intended.
Their only power is their nuclear weapons, Russia is far to big to be properly covered by their army, their ports are all locked by nato countries and their ships would never be able to interdict in other nation's trade, or defend its own.

nuke everything?

you don't need much to defend from china
just a couple of border control units and MLRS

> And then they fall back to use that land as an attrition weapon
And why exactly would anyone follow them? If someone attacks from east, they will be interested in occupying east.
>muh nukes
lame. Also china has nukes too. Why would they risk to obliterate each other for far east?

>fall back to use that land as an attrition weapon
basically all they need
i mean, china has over a billion people, but that doesn't mean they could field a much larger army than russia for a war in siberia
they would never be able to advance with millions of men through siberia
get a couple of shipments of supplies disrupted and you've got a dead army. doesn't matter if it was a million or ten million men.

>Uses judgements of China's fighting capabilities from when it was starving and dieing
Ok Vlad

The russian state exists only for the purpose of enabling the ruling class to live like kings. The money from the energy exports covers both the luxurious lifestyle of Putin's court and displays of wealth and power meant for international audiences.

Again: what is the point for China to go into siberia to fight ruskies?
It's like if US goes to war with Canada and will try to occupy ALL OF IT.
No, US would occupy big cities on the southern border and war will be over.

>to fund a cocky foreign policy
that's not how you spell oligarchy

that's the whole point
canada's core cities lie right next to the us
while if the chinese occupied vladivostok and khabarovsk, which are the only important cities in the russian far east, the war would be far from over because it would only mean the loss of two minor cities (like 500k people each).
and while china could not do much more than in a conventional war, the russians could just barrage every chinese city all day every day, even with conventional rockets, while the chinese would be unable to hit any important target in russia since there aren't any nearby
war with russia would be too costly for china, since the chinese will always have their belly exposed to russia, while the russian heartland is too far away for china to reach

China is fucking starving for the most basic shit such as fresh water and lumber, and is eager to extend its presence to the warming Arctic.

Maintaining a natural ecosystem is a good thing and has an intrinsic value.

China wins
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"As long as Russia has shit roads, cold and big area they are unconquerable"
Vitya Ak-47

Prussia is Balt, always was and always will be.

>yuro empires can't even get from paris/ berlin to moscow
>thinking a chinese army will even get as far as novosibirsk

The Chinese army doesn't exactly have a stellar reputation and I can't see how they're going to supply tens of thousands of men when there's desert, steppes, mountains and arctic land between China and Russia in the east, hindering movement and supply lines severely.

There should be a city every 13km of farmland, Euro russia should have 304,615 cities.

mackinder's world island

Russia is an unorganized mideval abomination with scattered cities.

I don't particularly like Germans but this picture makes me sad

Russia is Balt too.

Those cities follow a very consistent pattern of going along the south.
Nature preservation for those who want to live as Anarcho-primitivist.

Russia's strategy would be to beg for peace talks. China would steam roll through Siberia.

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>China would steam roll through Siberia.
More like pic related. Siberia is so vast, undeveloped and harsh that it's virtually impossible to conquer it without nuking off Russia's entire population

Muh Warm sea port

Well, no one else was taking that land, so Russia just sort of kept going until it hit the Pacific.

Well, it hasn't been at least since the XVII century

RIP Prussians

Most of that land is too shit for people to live there. Same thing with Canada and Australia, it's mostly empty land.

>that picture
Why not just take Mongolia? What's Mongolia gonna do? Who's gonna protect it?

Excellent post

>No, US would occupy big cities on the southern border and war will be over
kek, Napoleon successfully occupied Moscow at one point but he still lost the war. You clearly don't know anything about attrition tactics.

St. Petersburg was the capital back then tho.

they're very rich in resources and in the future with global warming a lot of the land will become farmable with ice-free ports. russia just need to fix its demographic problem and then it'll become future superpower