Why did UK cede Hong Kong to China but did not surrender Gibraltar back to Spain?

Why did UK cede Hong Kong to China but did not surrender Gibraltar back to Spain?

Afraid of getting bullied by china

Did HK people want to belong to China? I'm sorry for them

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Did Okinawan people want to be part of Japan? I am sorry for them.

they did but the youth just wants to rebel because they didn't understand how oppressive the colonial brits were

It doesn't matter, the way British stole the territory in the first place was absolutely scummy. They were objectively the bad guys

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Your flag looks like sick japan

Did Nanking women want to be raped? I'm sorry for them

AL or BNP?

Nope. And me too.

lmao fake news please go.

>they didn't understand how oppressive the colonial brits were
I thought it was much better to be ruled by Brits than to be ruled by CCP. HK is obviously being deprived of their high autonomy just now.

You should own it rather than try and deny

the natives were not allowed to hold political office of any kind and had no representatives administration

it may have been a rich city but it didn't belong to hkers in any realistic way

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Wow Are you Hong Konger?

Seriously? I am sorry for HKers.

OK so the way >we stole the land was scummy. I agree. The way >we treated China was awful generally, but literally every European country (including America) was involved in raping China right up until the point the Japanese turned on the Brits and Dutch in WW2. I own that.

But they absolutely did not want to return to China and you are deluded if you think that. It was a huge betrayal on >our part.

No English, but strong friend/family ties.

>lease island for 150 years
>give it back after 150 years
>people loudly wonder why you gave it back
??????

lol

Honk Kong is not rare at all, retard

retard

He's right but he's twisting it.
He's also right in the sense that the youth don't really realise that part (that it was administered and not democratic) -- but I stand by the fact that HK would rather be British without a shadow of a doubt.

Are you actually Japanese?

Thx for replying, i met one some HK guys and they all looked back on the past when ruled by Brits, so...
Yes why? It must be obvious that I'm Japanese when you read my English lol

I was talking about Bangladesh flag.....

Dumb frogposter

I am sorry for you

>Bangladesh flag is a sick Japan
Lmao

>LMAO
get this fucking redditor out of here

Then Palau is truly wholesome lol

shut up fuck up

>Japan
>sun flag
>Palau
>moon flag

Japan X Palau ftw

Did Hokkaido people want to belong to J*pan monkeys? I'm sorry for them

pendeja

We only had one island permanently, the rest and most of Hong Kong was on a 99 year lease that expired, so we gave it back. We wouldve kept the island but all the major suppliances for the city are in the mainland parts under lease. Gibraltar is like that,except we have the entire place for forever and the country claiming it is just a has been who cant even control the parts of it country it already has.

we only leased lad

also china is big and scary whereas spainards are bitches and won't do anything

No mames esta bien meco ese tipo que postea ranas jaja

Brotherhood

>ardido
lel

>lol he said a funny word

que se siente estar pendejo?

@82539236
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>el mismo ardido sigue con un tremendo ardor de trasero sin parar
mis costados
Lmao

Was china really going try and "do something" if the UK changed their mind and said fuck off Hong Kong is mine?

tas bien meco jajaja

>Indepent city state HK was never a thing to begin with
Kinda bad

>this is the power of Jap """""innovation"""""
loool

andale sigue posteando pendejadas jaja

>la ardilla sin causa
pobre lel

y no se rinde jaja

>estar asi de ardido
lul

postea las ranitas andale jajaja postealas

>ser un pendejo
lmao

se le mean en su cara y sigue igual de estupido jaja

>ser así de pendejotote
loooool jajaj xd

ahora usa las flechitas verdes el pendejo ajjajaja

frijolero lel

HK people were 2nd class citizen under British rule user.

bien pendejo que está este wey jaja xd

jajajja postea al segundo despues de que se cagan de su pendejez jaja

>the way British stole the territory in the first place was absolutely scummy.

HK was literally uninhabited squalor that's why the Chinese had no real grievance when they signed it away to the British because they saw nothing there and no value. The British knew better. It grew into an industrial metropolis under british guidence.

>HK people were 2nd class citizen under British rule user.

Still better than being Chinese while living under Chinese rule. The Qing/Manchu were committing human rights abuses and torture on it's own citizens so commonly they made the British look like pussies.

Even Thatcher knew that socialism is inevitable.

not to mention the Cantonese are somewhat different from Mandarin speakers culturally (discrimination works both ways)

Was there any possibility that China would have resorted to arm if the negotiation had failed? I hear Thatcher was afraid of that.

i've heard that the british didnt wanted to give more money to colonies

It would have sowed bad will

In the 40s-60s, yes, in 97, no.

>In the 40s-60s, yes, in 97, no.
wait what

HK reverted to Chinese rule in 1997.
A lot of decolonisation (40s-60s) did take place because we were broke though. Also cold war stuff.

I see, btw what were other Mexicans in this thread talking about
Definitely yes

we were talking about how the frogposter from reddit was stupid

> brits are evil and opressive
> muh oprraishon
lmao how to spot a paki nigger

lol

The irony of him posting from Australia is also pretty funny.

Depressing you mean.

How are you enjoying Sydney Li Wang

Alright Kim?

HK can elect its own legislature and governor now, but HK could not elect its own legislature and its governor under the British boots, all of them were appointed by a monarch.

HK’s GDP is US$321 billion now only 20 years under the Chinese rule, but HK’s GDP was only US$177 billion after 155 years under the British boots.

HK people can travel to and abode in China freely now, but under the British boots, though HK people held British passports, but they needed visa to travel to UK and they could not abode in UK, in fact they were despised unnormal subjects.

HK can have political protests now, but under British boots no political protest was allowed, if it happens, the British sent in marines to shoot you then deport you to the middle of Indian Ocean without trail.

Terry, following the comparisons, do you believe you can decide HK is better off now or under the “British boots?”

I've heard not a few HKers emigrated to the U.K in the return of HK. You have friends whose root is from HK? And what do Brits think about the return?

Actually it was inhabited. The New Territories alone had 120,000 people.

I don’t see why being raped by a white cock is better than being raped by a yellow cock. Both are bad.

I am from Hong Kong. Born in the New Territories in 1990. This is the realityFirst off, pro-Beijing Hong Kongers like me do not want to live in a Mainland society. But we also know that we need the mainland to survive.

Pan-Democrats and Localists simply don’t understand that if we push Beijing too hard we will lose our democracy. We gained that democracy in 1997. We did not have it when I was born.

The government gave us universal suffrage but the protesters instead blocked the highways and shut down the city for three months. Now we get nothing.

Haven't met any Hong Kongers personally, and while most people don't really care about what happened HK, when it does come up among those in the know, the general feeling is that we let HK down, and didn't protect them from China.

When Liu Xiaobo died it got a fair bit of coverage here. People were generally sad about his death, but again, few here really know that much about the history of Hong Kong.

>this glow in the dark mainlander

>this british who never has lived in HK, let alone visited

Ah thank you for replying. I was born in 1995, so we are close lol.

After the reannexation, democracy in HK progressed , right? I also think universal suffage is a innovative progress in China.

However, I also hear that the current situation of democracy is increasingly receding, and the administrator(?) of HK is from mainland China and the citizens are worring about losing democracy.

So, I am worried that the democracy of HK is kind of "appeasement policy" to convince the U.K when they were negotiating. i know it's difficult for HKers to make a balance given CCP, though.

I'm sorry if I offend you by reading the text, thx.

xi>theresa may
HK got a lucky break

She's not even fucking human.

>the general feeling is that we let HK down, and didn't protect them from China.

Interesting story. Maybe the U.K's feeling toward HK is kinda same as Japan's Taiwan. Also I guess it was a matter of time that the U.K gave high self-government right to HK. Thanks

n-no but I really want to, mainland too, pls no decline visa :3
I unironically have a favourable opinion of China, was just answering from a British perspective specifically regarding HK. Cheers

Not at all. CPC is horrible if you want any freedom or life security (they could just make a major change that fucks your life and there is nothing you can do, while in most countries there is something you can do). Not to mention it is shown to be actively oppressive.

>horrible if you want any freedom or life security
Sounds like the UK under Blair and then the Tories.

Anyway thx for replying. I like both HK and China(not CCP)
I go eat lunch, see you 再見

dil lay lo mo (until we meet again, friend)

Did Israel want to belong to the Israelites? If not I feel sorry for them.

Fuck you we aren't your entertainment unless you pay us to keep you happy

bigger army diplomacy
attempts to keep hk would certainly mean ww3

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GIBRALTAR

PLA could have easily taken HK by force. Spain taking Gibraltar? not so much.

UK did the humanitarian thing by giving it up.

This is some weird colonial idea by brits, that despite the no politicial freedoms and oppression colonies were doing well. When Britian decolonised Singapore unemployment was 35%, majority of the population illiterate and virtually no industry. For a hundred years under British Raj the Indian economy grew by 1% per annum, same as population growth. Even Zimbabwe, run by a socialist economically retarded man, has maintained the rhodesian gdp

cause china powerful spen not

lol