My younger sister just got me into this show, I watched a few episodes with her, now I'm hooked...

My younger sister just got me into this show, I watched a few episodes with her, now I'm hooked. Why did everyone call it Tumblr trash again?

Because Sup Forums has shit taste, now stop making threads fag.

But I rarely ever visit this board...

Because it heavily borrows many anime elements and I don't like anime.

because tumblrinas read too deeply into it and smeared their agendas all over a cartoon for children

I enjoy watching this show. Definitely prefer the Gem World storyline episodes over Steve and Friends.

>blatantly gay characters
"Oh man, those tumblrinas are smearing their agenda on my cartoons again."

Gay characters? Must be tumblr!

Great show, but has a bit too much filler given how long the hiatuses are.

Let's not start this subjective-as-fuck discussion we've had a million times before.

It's little more than a plot point that only functions as subtext if that's how you interpret it. Everyone can see the arguments, but it isn't going to "indoctrinate" any children.

>blatantly gay
sure because these aliens have shown their race to be gender binary.

They haven't. There is no way for an agendered race to be gay user. Come on.

People call it tumblr because of the same sex relationship between the gems and the multi cultural relationship between Steven and Connie. Also the hip ukulele music. That's it. I don't really care how you feel about it, it isn't my opinion.

Parts of co hate it because they're retards.

I love the show, but it's far from perfect.

I guess people are just salty the only plot-driven (semi) action cartoons on these days are the feminine SU and the forgettable Rebels.

And you should keep it that way.

Go browse a board that's not complete shit.

anime influence?
gay tones?
insecurity?
it's popular so I must hate it?
I dunno man, this is Sup Forums, edgy contrarian opinions are everywhere. This is the board that'll have numerous people defending BvS, taste is pretty irrelevant.
The characters are fun, the style is cute, and the songs are fun. Just enjoy the show and go on with your life.

You just HAD to ask

Lemme put on my autism glasses for a minute and say that's the opposite of true. Something with only one sex can ONLY be homosexual if they are attracted to each other.

Same reason I hate games like Bayonetta and Dragon's Crown.

>omg strong independent womyn who don't need no men omg worship them as perfect goddesses!

And it's a little tiring when people keep trying to defend it by saying "b-but it's post-modernist irony!" or "it's supposed to be zany and wacky!" or some other dumb excuse.

It gets a little annoying.

>Why did everyone call it Tumblr trash again?
BECAUSE THERE'S THREE GIRLS AND ONE OF THEM'S FAT AND TUMBLR LIKES IT AND THE GAYS?

Because Sup Forums has this rather weird fixation on calling something with female leads or gays "le tumblr boogeyman"

What one strong independent woman is in Steven Universe are you thinking of exactly?

The fat one, Garnet, Girafarig, to start. They're built up as these super strong awesome flawless women. And the flaws they do give them are kind of hamfisted.

>Same reason I hate games like Bayonetta
Stopped reading there.
Go back to Sup Forums faggo.

>And the flaws they do give them are kind of hamfisted.
Wow that's a really cute way to pre-empt any argument against you.

I mean, it's wrong, but you made an attempt.

Because it became popular, and there were a lot of threads in the same time and anons that knew a shit about the show started with shitposts saying tumblrshow as an insult

Your image post is not cartoon or comic related. Stop shitposting your anime here.

it's pretty great

I think you're pretty great user.

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It's a reaction image you fucking newfag.

because it's colourful and has a lot of girls in it i guess?

I dunno, you never can tell how much of Sup Forums is not-so-insane faggots and absolutely angry at everything faggots.

It got popular, therefore the faggoty super-autist edgelords of Sup Forums had to come up with something to discredit it. Because nobody knows or gives a shit about logical fallacies on Sup Forums, they attack the shit-tier fanbase on Tumblr rather than the actual cartoon.

It's a beautiful system, user.

>hating based bayonetta one of the most badass women to ever have been created
Naw see you don't have a problem with strong "womyn" you have a problem with women in general if you can't appreciate a badass like her. She is basically female Dante with more style and I know you aren't gonna say Dante is shit.

And this user is great in turn.

>Garnet is flawless
>except for her flaws, but those don't count
Also your post makes it sound like you've never watched this show.

See, it's this kind of blind worship that makes me hate her even more.

>She is basically female Dante with more style and I know you aren't gonna say Dante is shit.

I don't like Dante either. I'm not a fan of hack and slashes really. I like shmups more. But the point is that I don't buy into fan worship like this.

> a board
> not complete shit

There are no good boards, user.

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>fan worship
So what I can't say anything against your shit opinion or its fan worship? You are stupid as hell if you think bayonetta of all characters is a pandering character in the slightest.

I like making fun of people too cowardly to just watch something and form their own opinion instead of instantly buying into every lazy fuckwit opinion painted across the internet, and especially here.

Better chase them memes harder boy or tumblr gonna GIT ya

I didn't say there were, I said go browse some boards that aren't completely shit. Sup Forums is 100% shit.
He should go browse /an/ or something and learn about turtles.

All I'm saying is that this kind of worship is what got MLP banned from most boards. people just wouldn't let up with how awesome and how "epic" the characters were. Every discussion boiled down into how much everyone wanted to have sex with them, drawing and spamming porn, and everything that came with it.

So hearing someone say "this character is the best ever and you're not allowed to say otherwise" brings me back to the great equine excommunication of the early decade. Of course, you're allowed to disagree with me, and my thoughts on the characters, but beyond that, what next?

You should also consider suicide.

The same reason people call Rick and Morty reddit and memey.

Its a meme you dip.

>Bayonetta
What?

She's like one of the few examples of a female protagonist done RIGHT.
The fuck have you been smoking?

You don't understand how things work, do you friend?

Because when something becomes popular, the most logical reaction for fans is spam threads. And that causes whatever vocal minority that DOESN'T like said thing to become even MORE vocal and annoying, spamming their own hate threads. This only emboldens said fans and results in an unfortunate cycle whereby the arguing becomes so annoying that the mods step in and everybody just gets pissed at each other. If you're lucky the mods just enforce a general, and if you're unlucky you eventually get shepherded into a ghetto. See /mlp/,/vg/, and our newest ghetto /trash/, which is actually pretty sweet if you're up for whatever.

Is she? Does the game have copious amounts of time spent to watching her strip, or in sexy outfits, or making bland witty quips while she effortlessly beats up every demon and/or angel in her way?

It gets really annoying really fast. People only like her because she's a sexier Dante, and desu Dante isn't that interesting either.

It's nice to know you haven't actually played the games user.

Bayonetta is pretty much female Dante, she's cool as hell.

Do you want to show us on the doll where the WiiU touched you?

All I'm saying is that Bayonetta is just too tumblr of a game for me. She's the typical strong girl who is the best and beats up everyone using over the top flashy moves. Why can't I dislike that? Do you like it when someone jumps down your throat for not liking Steven Universe?

A little level headedness here wouldn't hurt.

because it got popular, tumblr found it and likes it, and Sup Forums hates tumblr.
So they hate the show by association

Its just really easy to trigger su fags with, honestly its a pretty good show.

Except tumblr hates Bayonetta for being too sexy, so they think she's more sex fuel, which granted she kinda is, but that's not the only good thing about her.

Nothing wrong with not liking her, but you're not right.

Bayo is strong because she's a centuries old witch with incredible powers, bot because she's a woman.
Rodin the shopkeeper, is stronger.

Even then, she's strong at a price, she's bound to several demons that will rip her soul apart when she finally dies.

Bayonetta is cool because she's Bayonetta, not because she's a "strong female".

I mean if anything isn't it a deviantart show since that's where Sugar used to post her art?

>She's the typical strong girl who is the best
Wrong, because she is drawn in an attractive artstyle

>except tumblr hates bayonetta
Nonsense. Half of the site is sex positive feminism, and they worship her. Why do you think she has her own section in tumblr?

Besides which, the main reason I hate her sex appeal is that nobody ever, EVER discusses the gameplay when it's brought up. It's always a porn dump every single time. Everyone jerking off to how sexy she is, and how the next game should have even more cutscenes to show off her ass. So is the game really good, when nobody wants to talk about the gameplay? That's all I'm saying.

Similar situation with Steven Universe. Everyone's going on about how it's so "progressive" and how the women are such fun and unique characters and yada yada yada deep lore. But they always neglect the often terrible animation, poor pacing, outright broken character development (every other episode Garnet unfuses because, despite being a creature of love, she's also an unstable emotional mess that rivals pearl). So I simply took off the rose tinted glasses (no pun intended) and saw the show as weaker for it.

I guess, in simpler terms, it's just easier to say that "what makes a character awesome to you, may make them lame to me".

The SJW side of tumblr (which really isn't that big) never hates a female character because she's sexy, they hate if that's the only thing that people (and usually the creators) focus on. People absolutely love Bayonetta on tumblr.

Because it's a well written but ultimately ideologically subversive series that rejections traditionalist dogmas.

Could've sworn she got huge backlash because of her sexualization, but I guess I was miss-informed.

Man am I happy I saved this picture.
Seriously though your opinion is retarded. Say what you want about bayonetta. Say she is a flat one dimensional character lacking any kind of real depth. Say that she is kind of a bitch. Say that you don't like her game.
But saying she is pandering or supposed to be SJW or anything of the sort is just plain unquestionably wrong.
So yeah you should probably consider suicide.

There's more than more group of people in tumblr. Otherwise I wouldn't scour the place for porn.

The reason people are saying your opinion is flawed is because you're saying you dislike it because she's a woman, while conveniently forgetting that 90% of protagonists of those sorts of over the top action games are the same character but male.

If you just said "I don't care for the stylish action hero archetype," it would be a lot different.

Dammit, I lost my image of the megaman thread that was just Roll jerking off.
Used to use it for fucks complaining about waifus in FE being the only thing talked about and them killing the game.

Same concept here.
You're on Sup Forums and only seeing the images. There's been plenty of discussion of the game itself, as well as shit people want for the next game. it's just most of that happened when it came out.
After that point, there wasn't really much to talk about outside of how powerfully sexy she is. At least until she got into smash.
Have you not seen the smash babies crying about how OP she is in smash? All they talk about is her gameplay in that regard.

Either way, the argument "X is too tumblr for me" is fucking retarded. Tumblr isn't an adjective.
Not liking how perfect she is is understandable, but saying you hate her cause other people like her for being a power fantasy is beyond petty.

>But saying she is pandering or supposed to be SJW or anything of the sort is just plain unquestionably wrong.
Except she fits every single tumblr stereotype to the letter. "b-but she's sexy". Yeah, and as webcomics like Dresdon Codak show, they don't care. If it's a strong independant woman, they'll still love it.

>The reason people are saying your opinion is flawed is because you're saying you dislike it because she's a woman
I don't mean that in the slightest, and I apologize if I implied that. I just didn't like the worship she gets over such simplistic reasons, among others.

>If you just said "I don't care for the stylish action hero archetype," it would be a lot different.
Honestly, this is true too.

I listed other reasons why I don't like her, like how the game focuses alot of time on showing her in sexy outfits, or being strong and empowered. And you know what, I didn't like it when Dante did it either, so it's not just a "woman" thing. It's a "poor execution of gameplay and game direction" thing.

It's more like the general population thinks that's all there is to Bayonetta no thanks in part to the people who created her, when presumably she has more going for her than just the whole long-legged gun shoe stripper thing.

Disclaimer that I've never played Bayonetta, I just know she has a fanbase on tumblr.

>Besides which, the main reason I hate her sex appeal is that nobody ever, EVER discusses the gameplay when it's brought up. It's always a porn dump every single time. Everyone jerking off to how sexy she is, and how the next game should have even more cutscenes to show off her ass. So is the game really good, when nobody wants to talk about the gameplay? That's all I'm saying.

The overuse of QTEs ruin the flow of otherwise stellar fights. Also, some of the extra weapons aren't that fun.

Y'see, that stuff is more understandable. You seem to just not like power fantasy type deals where you're character is portrayed as the second coming of christ.

But don't go calling it "blind worship." Other people like the power fantasy, and they can still recognize it's faults.
Most people on Sup Forums agreed that Bayo 2 was still good, but not as good as Bayo 1 for various reasons. Personally, I can see what they meant as the story felt a lot less grand despite having more varied levels.
But the gameplay itself is still incredibly solid from a design perspective, with combat flow and enemy patterns/types being very fluid and enjoyable with a moderate level of player perceived competence vs. required skill.

Likewise, even /sug/ recognizes the shitty parts of SU. The animation is really only good when we get direct animation from Sugar or the other crew members, Garnet's become a "what the fuck do we do with this character" deal, and Connie was pretty much worthless until recently.
That said, the musical numbers in it range from good to great, the backgrounds are gorgeous, and the story is very good at trickling down information in a way to keep viewer attention.
I disagree that the pacing is bad, I think it's just the long breaks making it seem that way. Overall the story's progression has been fairly steady after a rough first 8 or so episodes.

Garnet is actually 2 people, so she's not independent

>not *unzipping your katana* on some baka gajin angels
The alternate weapons made the game 10x more enjoyable
Seriously man no one cares. Go back to Sup Forums or I'm afraid I will have to report you as an escapee to the hivemind.

The day when people unironically argue that Bayonetta is Tumblr baiting is the day I know that Sup Forums has fully come to and must be purified.

>Why did everyone call it Tumblr trash again?

First off, it's cute that you say that in the past tense. Secondly, and to answer your question: It's because they can't handle that different groups of people can enjoy the same thing for different reasons.

Also, as a bonus, everyone spergs the fuck out as a defense mechanism at this point the moment they see a character like Garnet or Jasper. Because "muh forced black character / muh stronk woman tumblr bodytype".

Most of all because stupid people see any neutrality, compromise, or new perspective as a hidden agenda of their enemy.

>The alternate weapons made the game 10x more enjoyable

The rocket launchers and the whip sucked though, which is what I was referring to.

This is really what it boils down to.

>And it's a little tiring when people keep trying to defend it by saying "b-but it's post-modernist irony!" or "it's supposed to be zany and wacky!" or some other dumb excuse.
This makes no sense. You might actually be retarded.

>But don't go calling it "blind worship."
Friend, even though the last time I went to tumblr was 2 years ago, I'm a regular on /vg/, so I can tell you when I see blind worship.

>But the gameplay itself is still incredibly solid from a design perspective
And this is where I have to stop you. I can't see a single bit of enjoyment from this game, as I find it repetitious and boring being "le epic whacky action here who's never reeeally in danger". And everytime I ask why I should consider the game to be such high art, the same answer is always given. "everyone likes it" or "the metacritic score is high". Such subjectives hardly sway me.

>Overall the story's progression has been fairly steady after a rough first 8 or so episodes.

Are you sure? Considering half the season is filler garbage like, for example, any episode with Sadie and Lars, or Ronaldo? They obviously want to tell a story, but every other episode is some boring throwaway plot that ultimately doesn't add to the lore, nor does it add to the characters, and even in the context of just giving us something entertaining, they come off as weak. Filler wouldn't be so bad if it was still entertaining, but Steven crossdressing just to make Sadie feel better is not funny. it's not anything really. I don't find it offensive or provoking. It's just there. And that's honestly worse than if it was really bad.

>Sup Forums tries to talk about Video Games
>gets bombarded with fucking retarded spamming of stupid Sup Forums vs. tumblr argumentative drivel
>Sup Forums tries to discuss stupid Sup Forums vs. tumblr argumentative drivel
>gets bombarded with people trying to talk about Video Games

? ? ?

>And everytime I ask why I should consider the game to be such high art,

Who the fuck is going around calling Bayonetta high art? It low brow pulpy schlock. And that's what makes it great.

>Bayonetta is just too tumblr of a game for me

>Why did everyone call [Steven Universe] Tumblr trash again?
Because it's gay as fuck, tbqh family.

>all three are representations of different dependency issues like Garnet's codependency, Pearl's refusal to let go and move on from rose's death and Amethyst's counterdependency
>these are done over 2 seasons of episodes that gradually introduce these flaws and build upon them
>hamfisted

Tumblr latched on because it had "diversity" when it was just diverse character design. Sup Forums went all kneejerk anti-sjw

That post was actually referring to Rose, Garnet, and the Yellow gem Hitler from the recent episodes. The one that makes the funny face after being called a clod.

You can't tell me the Sup Forums of five years ago wouldn't have loved a show about lesbian space warriors saving the world with their obnoxiously innocent stepchild

>very other episode Garnet unfuses because, despite being a creature of love, she's also an unstable emotional mess that rivals pearl
Woah Holy shit nigger, I don't give a shit HOW late this is, but you are full of fucking shit if you think Garnet unfuses that often. She's literally only unfused twice now (once where she was literally forced by a weapon and the other because of an argument). I agree with the rest of your points but what fucking show are you watching?

Is that wrong? I want a video game, preferably with very little story, that focuses on fun gameplay, and never once bothers me to tell me how "epic" the main character is, or show them in a sexy outfit, or talk about emotions or whatever. It's the same problem TLOU had.

And you know what, it's the same problem Steven Universe has. Too much focus on the story and characters, not enough building on the medium, which in this case means better animation that isn't outsourced to a korean sweat shop.

This
Everyone's trying too hard to look deep into it.
Let's face it.
Is it tumblr the show?
That's subjective, but it's leaning more towards yes.
Does that have an effect on its quality?
No, it's liked by everyone regardless of belief, that I know of.

The Sup Forums of today loves it they just don't want to admit it because they want to fit in with everyone else hating it.

Every episode where she doesn't completely unfuse, she still turns into a trainwreck that might as well be fused. Remember the episode in the Kindergarten where she freaks out under pressure and is on the verge of curling into a ball and crying?

It was definitely a change of pace from her being a cool always right strong womyn, but yeesh, it was such a polar opposite end of the spectrum that it makes me wonder if Sugar can even spell moderation, let alone use it in the show.

what's your favorite board team OP?

>Is that wrong? I want a video game, preferably with very little story, that focuses on fun gameplay, and never once bothers me to tell me how "epic" the main character is, or show them in a sexy outfit, or talk about emotions or whatever. It's the same problem TLOU had.
What does that have to do with Tumblr? Are all video games with a significant storyline Tumblr now?

>Story and character is bad meme

Go home Miyamoto.

That is the one he was talking about you utter fucking mong.
She just found out that her fellow crystal gems were ground up and stuck in a vat for a few thousand years to be forced to fuse into abominations. That is literally a nightmare scenario for a permafusion like her so yeah she freaks out. She then regains her composure after about 10 seconds of weakness and kicks the fusion monster's ass.

>or talk about emotions or whatever.

What?

>I want a video game with barely any story

Arin, don't you have GameGrumps to make tomorrow?

Bro, I felt that that sort of reaction fell perfectly in line with her character. She considers fusion to be a very personal, meaningful thing, so you could only imagine how traumatic it must be to not only see what basically amounts to the dead remains of your friends, but the dead remains of your friends fucking smashed together like some necro-human centipede style shit. The conflicting anger and sadness from Ruby and Sapphire respectively was pretty good in hindsight to showcase just how much, Garnet believes in fusion

The argument one was where Garnet unfused because of Pearl shenanigans. Again that sort of falls in line with how serious Garnet/Ruby/Sapphire take fusions