$13 BILLION dollars

>$13 BILLION dollars
>$3 BILLIONS over budget
>doesn't even work

Do Americans realize that the reason they dont have state funded universal healthcare and free universities is because of shit like this? How many contractors have got rich on this shit, an obvious case of overpricing and corruption? Not to mention the F-35 program.

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Why would you want substandard universities and healthcare?

Better than not having any. Private healthcare and education and state funded healthcare and education arent exclusives.

>Private healthcare and education and state funded healthcare and education arent exclusives.
Nah, as soon as anything becomes "public" quality drops substantially.

>state funded universal healthcare and free universities
Yeah, I'd like to not have this kind of shit happen to our medicine. Education has already gone to shit because the state controls it.

Anything the government touches becomes bloated pieces of incompetent trash.

But there is no "public" healthcare now at all. It's all private.

So like the military?

And that's a very good thing hence why America has the best higher education system and the finest healthcare available.

Uppermost kek.

>F-35

People like to talk lots about the F-35 being shit but I've seen them in Action and although they still have some kinks to be worked out they are actually not too bad.

Quite the contrary, you shill piece of shit, this is precisely WHY we don't WANT state funded anything!

Kill yourself you marxist fuck!

At least there's no ramp.

Also are you talking about the Gerald class ships not working?

it s fine, just wait until those F35 start equiping it and you wont be laughting anymore.

Based on your post its like you think introducting state funded healthcare would lower the quality of the private one. But why?

And the best part: It's powered by Windows Server

oh no, muh putin said that f-35 is bad and russia stronk!

>2003

are you 12? Everything run by gov turns to shit. Government interference is the worst possible option for pretty much everything.

The F-35 program will cost something like $400 billion, twice its budget. It's an obvious rip-off even if it works in the end.

Read my post again.

Do you realize the only reason your shitty country is even free is because of us? Do you realize that we protect YOU for free?

Why the fuck do you even care about us building carriers? Go live your own life, stop being so obsessed you jelly little faggot.

We have massive carriers and stealth fighters and the greatest technology on earth, while you play with Soviet scraps. Hell, I've been to Budapest and I liked it a lot, but morons like you give Hungary a bad name. Plus you dummies can't even fix Budabest from a war 60 years ago.

Awesome, that's probably higher than Hungary's GDP. Why are you so obsessed with us?

>Do you realize the only reason your shitty country is even free is because of us? Do you realize that we protect YOU for free?

You really shouldn't. You should let them rot like the rats they are

>Do you realize the only reason your shitty country is even free is because of us?
this isnt true. the US has done exactly nothing in this. In fact the whole Eastern Bloc is "free" because of us, because we opened our borders for the Eastern Germans. You might wanna learn about history friendo.


>Do you realize that we protect YOU for free?
No you don't. You don't do shit. Ukraine, ISIS, Afghanistan, Africa. The UN does peacekeeping, and thats worth exactly the same.

Jesus christ commie shit teenager blown the fuck out

Nice try malnutrition, get a job you worthless fuck

Its pretty clear from that post that he's a fucking retard with high school level knowledge on world matters. But here is a (You)

You're clearly angry because you cant answer a simple question and got into a corner with your shitty "argument".

I'll ask you one more time, if you can even understand a simple question:

how state funded healthcare would lower the quality of private healthcare? So far this was your only argument.

Wat..

While the top tier schools indeed have high end quality it also means that those who cant afford it or cant pay off a 200k student loan are fucked.

Why do you think the US scores so bad on overall maths scores for example?

> implying you didnt create all the conflicts you are "protecting" us from.

Are you trolling or stupid?
Private and gov. health care can COEXIST like in my country and it works perfectly well.

>Do you realize that we protect YOU for free?
>protect
You misspelled "bully".

That's not a problem with the educational system. That's a nigger/spic problem.

Kek
We protected the shit out of Serbia

You mean the jet that cant fire its cannon till 2018 and only has one engine?

>Why do you think the US scores so bad on overall maths scores for example

They failed to deport the negroes after the civil war.

>b-bu-but muh military spending powah is more than the next ten countries combined!!!!
>c-china and russia are threat to world p-peace

Who keeps the trade routes through international waters safe? Who guarantees it?
Why do they guarantee it?

What would happen if they became weak and stopped guaranteeing it themselves?

Savage

I'm perfectly fine if the my military spends twice as it's spending now.

>3 years' worth of the entire US military budget spent... ON A SINGLE FUCKING BOAT

Do u niggers not get it?

The US military budget per year - all air force, army, Navy and marines combined - is 4 billion a year, and you just spent 13 billion on a single fucking boat. THAT YOU DON'T NEED.

Can you say "military industrial complex"? Can you say "a complete fucking racket to make hi-tech and aerospace companies even richer"?

Explain yourself, America. Tell the world how you can rank literally dead last in the developed world for science and math scores and feel that big useless boats is the real national priority. We're dying to hear.

>Why do you think the US scores so bad on overall maths scores for example?
because niggers and spics? whites in the usa still score higher and have higher iqs than whatever non country you're from

>Explain yourself, America.
secret black projects desu

Look at public vs private school in america.
Public schools have been slashing their standards year after year and still have far higher failure and delinquency rates.
When you make something public you make it so you have to cater to the lowest common denominator. For schools that means you have to let every spic nigger and retard in regardless of their ability and even if they impair other student's ability to learn.
Whereas with private schools you only need to cater to those willing to PAY and have a personal investment in their ability to benefit from schooling.
tl;dr you're a retard with no grasp on basic economic ideas.

>a fucking clown tent
Your country's life expectancy is shit.

that was probably the plan
soak the tax payer another 6 b to fix it

So? Now you get a lot of people who dont get healthcare at all, because they cannot afford it. Or they get into an accident and suddenly has to pay $80000 for a broken arm.

Private healthcare can compete with each other and state healthcare via better prices or quality. State healthcare can treat people who cannot afford private ones.

This all without actually raising taxes.

You're a dumb communist anti-US child.

State funded healthcare that is "free" would raise the cost of healthcare across the board. This will depress wages for doctors and lead to a shortage of doctors. Also, whenever the government funds something, a determination must be made about what to fund and what not to fund. This leads to government controlling healthcare and also leads to waiting lists. Private companies cannot COMPETE with "free" healthcare and will eventually go out of business.

Further, the massive tax burden would further bring the country into debt and hurt the economy even more.

Lastly, for moral reasons, I don't want to pay for other people's healthcare.

There is NO FREE LUNCH.

captcha isn't working

You don't understand how R&D works and how costs are distributed. Anyways, I hope we stop spending to police the world. I hope we stop spending to keep free trade open. I hope we stop spending to protect you cucks. I'm sick and tired of MY TAX DOLLARS going to DEFEND YOU UNGRATEFUL PIECES OF SHIT.

I can't wait until Trump withdraws from all these "alliances" (read: US paying for ungrateful bitches) and you fools get to experience Russian and Chinese "benevolence."

Not to mention, we have the best education here in the world. The numbers are dragged down by blacks, but no one cares.

Don't even bother replying to these jealous morons. The only reality they know is the one spoon fed to them by their socialist governments and media. They suck on the teat of the US and then cry about us. It's the equivalent of a 5 year old throwing a tantrum and then immediately sucking on momma's titty when he gets thirsty again.

We really shouldn't be so hard on them actually, I kind of feel bad for them. It must be tough to lead such a cucked existence, spending their free time whining about the big bad United States spending money on aircraft carriers LOL

>look, this tax funded project was an overpriced bloat of fail
>you should have your health and higher education tax funded too

>State funded healthcare that is "free" would raise the cost of healthcare across the board.

no it wouldnt, in fact it would LOWER private healthcare prices due to increased competition. Thats like basic economy.

>Private companies cannot COMPETE with "free" healthcare and will eventually go out of business.
You're a retard, hundreds of countries have this system, it works everywhere, including in mine.

>There is NO FREE LUNCH.
Except when you're a military contractor. Or any contractor really. Billing $5000 for a hammer sounds like "free lunch" to me.

a battlegroup led by one of those could single-handedly take control of your country and everything along the butthurt belt, one of those carriers with its complement could obliterate your entire military. considering that, $13b is cheap

But user this ship is more intrinsically more valuable than paying for the healthcare for fat asses and for sjws to go to woyim studies classes.

You do realize money is fake and we print the shit

Keep your Commie system to yourself and the eurocucks

You just argued against your own point.

It doesnt work. It cannot do anything Ahmed. It barely floats.

What point?

That bs narrative started with the movie Independence Day. It really is contractors fleecing America. They have to take the lowest bid, minority or female run company.

Where do you draw the line between who qualifies for public vs private healthcare?
Should a hobo on the street get a million dollar operation while a middle class father doesn't just because of their different tax returns?
With education this is an easy question because public and private healthcare are two distinct services where one requires you pay and the other doesn't.
With healthcare it's the same, lifesaving service but some people will get a free ride while others will not.
Literally NOBODY will be happy with that.

You're very liberal with other people's tax dollars but you haven't even stopped to think about how it would actually work or who it would even benefit. (bankrupting our government and medical services to save a bunch of dying vagrants and criminal niggers who can't help themselves helps NOBODY)

i think you mean 4 trillion, user

>The US military budget per year - all air force, army, Navy and marines combined - is 4 billion a year

"In fiscal year 2015, military spending is projected to account for 54 percent of all federal discretionary spending, a total of $598.5 billion. "
nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/


a fucking leaf?

I dont give a shit about your country building carriers but you didnt do shit for our freedom cause there's no oil here.When we rebelled the US declared they're not going to intervene so the commies could safely roll in their tanks.Stop with this 'be grateful' shit.

The point was that you wouldnt need to pay anything. Simply lowering the money you spend on shit would be enough.

You wouldnt need to even stop spending money on anything. You can keep your F-35. Its seriously overpriced and you're not willing to actually care about that.

1.5 trillion dollars later

>Not too bad

Source please?

"Korea has the highest IQ average in the world, higher than Japan and all the rest of the Western Developed Countries. Hong Kong and Flanders being 1-2pt higher than Korea, but since both are not a country, Korea remains 1st."

asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t88159.html

Since Belgium is a non-country, to which I agree, you have just fucked yourself over als Flanders is the top IQ region in the world.

Several sources on Google show that the average white IQ in the USA is around 103. That means you're 5 points behind even though in our case all the turks/maroccans and eastern europeans are included.

Sorry bro you're not even close.

>surprised that something that isn't finished doesn't work

do you expect flour to taste like a cake?

And that's just discretionary spending.
Add to it all of the shit that the government isn't allowed to change and military spending vanishes.

>Implying that all white people in the USA can afford hundreds of thousands of dollars in college/uni debt.

You're partially right but your average white man education in the USA still isn't top tier.

Americans will do anything to bend over and take it in the arse from private contractors because they are so scared of muh gubermunt even when its actually cheaper

Only brings them a bit closer if you rule out the blacks.

1,5 tril later you will have 3k of these for 50 years into service
>not too bad indeed

You can see in this thread, how deep is stupidity of american people.. It's tragic..

This. My parents pay for healthcare twice in my shit country since public is FUCKING GARBAGE so we go to private, but we still have to pay taxes for public which goes to spics, niggers, immigrants and other non-humans.

I want to live in the USA so I don't have to pay for anyone's healthcare, you want healthcare pay for it lazy nigger.

Life is a privilege, not a right, if you can't afford it tough shit, someone will replace you.

>give free operations to niggers, hobos and other non productive "members" of society while you make the middle class pay for everything
Yeah no, fuck that system

WW2

>when other countries think 13 billion dollqrs is a lot of money

>when Mississippi, the poorest state in the Union has a bigger GDP than Britain

Adorable

You cant fix stupid. This is your amurican

>Billing $5000 for a hammer sounds like "free lunch" to me.

>he doesn't know what a black project is

Why would I ever want Federal healthcare and Federal Universities?

Our Federal Education is complete garbage and I have to homeschool my son to be sure he's going to get anywhere in life.

I pay for healthcare because I made the right decisions in life. Poor fucks who refuse to stop having kids and refuse to work for a better job don't need healthcare, they need to die of something.

Who does though?

Last time I checked China didn't give a shit about the US-kekforce.

Could we implement a system? Yes.

Would it be cheaper? No.

Would it work better? No.

Even if it was cheaper, would I want it? No.

Now fuck off and go worry about your own shithole of a country. I'm trying to enjoy another day in the greatest country in the world without having to hear more teenage bitching at daddy from you cucks.

Fuck off dummy. We defend you right now at this very instant. You ungrateful piece of shit. We fought the Cold War to liberate you. We spend our tax dollars to protect you and liberate you from communism.

And here you are, bitching that we didn't save you decades ago. You know what? Save yourself. Fuck you. You bitch about our involvement, and at the same time cry that we didn't help you.

>When we rebelled the US declared they're not going to intervene so the commies could safely roll in their tanks.

So what? Fuck you. Why should we die to protect you? I hope the commies do it again and this time genocide everyone in your country.

You are an entitled sniveling ungrateful little bitch.

Spain is correct. Fuck you faggot gibsmedat losers. You are the scum of the earth.

I'm pretty sure Canada is buying a bunch too. This isn't only an American project.

NIGGA. I have some facts that will make you regret this, the post of your reckoning!

In 2010, the US spent 695 BILLION dollars on Social Security. The US spent 643 billion dollars on Medicare and Medicaid combined. It spent 164 billion dollars on interest payments and more than 50 billion dollars on the Department of Veterans Affairs.

16 billion dollars is FUCKING NOTHING to us. We waste more money than your country could dream of having in decades! YEAH!!!

>Simply lowering the money you spend on shit would be enough.
You fucking idiot.
YOU'RE NOT LOWERING PRICES BY MAKING THE GOVERNMENT PAY FOR IT INSTEAD.
Ready that three times so you understand it thoroughly.

In fact, it's just the opposite. When the government started offering federal loans to "lower the price of college" the tuition prices fucking SKYROCKETED.
Suddenly colleges had this ENORMOUS flow of guaranteed cash regardless of the applicant's ability to graduate. So they raised their prices and started making money hand over fist as the government threw money at the problem to hide the fact that poor niggers never get into graduate from college.
Now they get into college and fail at far higher rates than any other demographic.

>>when Mississippi, the poorest state in the Union has a bigger GDP than Britain
The difference is, 99% of the wealth is not owned by the 1% in the UK unlike clapistan

>it's a former socialist shithole lectures Americans on how to be free and prosperous episode

Yeah, nah I think I'll pass.

Congratulations, you answered the question.

Obama has totally gutted the american military so now we have opportunists rising up trying to take control of international trade routes for themselves.

It doesn't have to be like that. In Belgium you have different tiers of high school that prepare you for different tiers of professions.

If you can't live up to the standards in the highschools that prep you for university they won't lower the standards for you.

It's a problem in YOUR society, not a general problem in public schooling all over the world.

Please do mind that I agree that some elite private schools will no doubt provide a better education. This doesn't mean however that public schools can't be good, objectively seen.

Ironically, republicucks hate "muh big government" yet love the biggest government project of them all.

>13 dollar Billion Boat
>No ramp
>1 Single Chink missile takes it out
>America

>tfw Murika got scared because the Eurofighter shot one down in war games

>US healthcare

>Implying Trump won't team up with Putin and finally destroy ISIS.

>We spend our tax dollars to protect you and liberate you from communism.

Calm down little bitch, you're not protecting anything apart from your own interests.Now go fuck yourself.

>Why do you think the US scores so bad on overall maths scores for example?

>YOU'RE NOT LOWERING PRICES BY MAKING THE GOVERNMENT PAY FOR IT INSTEAD.

Read my post, friendo. If you actually cared about the corruption in military spendings you could fund all that shit AND lower taxes at the same time. Its simply THAT much money.

Fuck off retard public schools suck everywhere unless you make a clear division between students based on their performance and intelligence.

All public schools end up flooded with subhumans and people who just don't care, breed idiocy and just push the next wave of retards up.

If you want good education you go to a private school, mainly because niggers, spics and other various assorted varieties of subhumans can't afford those schools so the private schools are a nice place to be where there isn't a rampant anti intelectualist movement or crime everywhere.

You're so fucking stupid. You used Google to search for the US military nudget and failed to read that the result of 4.6 is percent of gdp, not billions of dollars.

> Lastly, for moral reasons, I don't want to pay for other people's healthcare.

While I get that point I don't see how it's a rational choice to pay 13 billion for a boat you don't need and barely functions either.

You're not really responding to his arguments.

>american education
Hungary was Axis in WW2