Why are they so sad Boromir died? He was the bad guy

Why are they so sad Boromir died? He was the bad guy

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>scenes women will never understand

>tfw women always say this when watching this scene
They will never understand

>Boromir feels the ring's influence after a few weeks
>Aragorn feels nothing over the entire trilogy

Was he a Mary Sue?

>for England, Erdogan?

How did Jackson get away with this?

no, he's just perfect and I like to self insert as him

Because he said a thing as he died

lmao who the fuck is boromir

No one saw him consumed by the ring but Frodo

DUDE BROTHER LMAO

DUDE CAPTAIN LMAO

DUDE KING LMAO

>my brother

Wouldn't that make Boromir the rightful king?

Even if he meant they were literal brothers Aragorn is probably older than Boromir, he's like 80 years old.

Because you women are dumb and need to go back to watching shit like SitC

no he's just a numeranian

So is Boromir. And in the movies that's not a thing.

yes it's a thing and boromir has less numeranian blood than aragorn
aragorn is more pure
like bleached niggers having higher IQ, it's the same

why you gotta be like this user

>yes it's a thing
Are you genuinely retarded? That's not how arguments work. Cite any line from the movie that indicates Aragorn isn't full fletched human

>and boromir has less numeranian blood than aragorn
>aragorn is more pure
Denethor bragged about his pure lineage and his wife was pure too. There is nothing in the books that implies this.
Aragorn was just stronger but that was mostly because he spent his life defending the shire or hunting Sauron's monsters while Boromir fought to defend his city and solely came to Elrond to gather allies.

>Are you genuinely retarded? That's not how arguments work. Cite any line from the movie that indicates Aragorn isn't full fletched human
arwen tells him in rivendell and he says it when they see the giant statues
you are the retard

>Denethor bragged about his pure lineage and his wife was pure too
obviously he got cucked

People that don't understand it need to get their asses kicked in.

Boromir was strong and honorable, more than any man could ever be in his place. Gondor was a shield against the Enemy for the whole Middle Earth, and the greatest tragedy in this for Boromir was that he loved his country and its people; for they were being slaughtered daily as they desperately tried to hold the territories, and it made them lose hope, and Boromir placed that burden upon himself. It didn't help, and I don't recall it being said in the movies, that his father Denethor turned mad over the years when he kept using the palantir in the white city, for he didn't know that Sauron the deciever was watching him closely and by tricks and deception he twisted the images in palantir, and Denethor turned from a great man into a paranoid schyzo.

The hearts of men are easily corrupted. The faltering of Boromir was a great tragedy.

Aragorn is the heir of Isildur himself, of course he's more pure than Boromir son of the mad Steward King. Why would you need that explained?

Pretty much this. He only wanted the means to protect his people and thought the ring would give him that. The Ring "knew" this so it corrupted him so it could use him as a means to get home to Sauron. He was never really bad, just a little misguided and emotional because of what was happening back home.

m8 he's tempted as fuck when Frodo offers it to him just moments before this scene

Denethor only used the Palantir after Boromirs death.
Otherwise spot on

Celeborn addresses him as Aragon of the Dunedain when they first meet in the movies. They never establish what that means in the original movies but in the extended cut of the Two Towers there's a scene with Eowyn where she finds out that he's in his 80s.

"Denethor secretly used a Palantír to probe Sauron's strength, and he used it at the top of the White Tower in his secret chamber, above the Throne room.[7] The effort aged him quickly, and the knowledge of Sauron's overwhelming force exacerbated the bitterness that had taken root at the time of the death of his wife, Finduilas, in TA 2988. Sauron used the Palantír to drive him mad with despair. He retained, however, an air of nobility and power. The death of Boromir, his eldest son and favorite, and the siege and apparent doom of the capital city drove Denethor further along the path to madness. Following this, he became estranged from Faramir. Shockingly, Faramir still upheld his father's wishes.[5]"
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Aragorn is a stalwart ranger who is used to the hard life and has gone through many years of hardship, learning to bear it along the way. Boromir is a good fighter but from a rich background and used to instant gratification and the finer things.

If you want to talk about a Mary Sue, it's Frodo. He hasn't done shit but fuck around in a paddock his whole life and someone makes it all the way to Mount Doom only fully cracking at the very last second. That's some bullshit.

That's not a refutation is it?
I distinctly remember in the books the moment he first used the palantir gets described. It was a flash seen from the tower and after that he quickly despaired.
Also at least when he sent out to the council of Elrond for allies he still believed in victory so he hasn't used it yet when he last saw Boromir. Ascribing any influence of Denethor using the palantir on Boromir is just plain wrong

The appendices say that he started using it after his wife's death

>‘After [Finduilas'] death Denethor became more grim and silent than before, and would sit long alone in his tower deep in thought, foreseeing that the assault of Mordor would come in his time. It was afterwards believed that needing knowledge, but being proud, and trusting in his own strength of will, he dared to look in the palantír of the White Tower.

>‘In this way Denethor gained his great knowledge of things that passed in his realm, and far beyond his borders, at which men marvelled; but he bought the knowledge dearly, being aged before his time by his contest with the will of Sauron. Thus pride increased in Denethor together with despair, until he saw in all the deeds of that time only a single combat between the Lord of the White Tower and the Lord of the Barad-dûr, and mistrusted all others who resisted Sauron, unless they served himself alone.

Forgot the most important part at the end

>‘So time drew on to the War of the Ring, and the sons of Denethor grew to manhood.

Still it was admirable that while not being an heir or owner of the palantir, he was still able to use it. It required a remarkable amount of willpower.

It's not bullshit if you buy into the fact that comfort breeds a strong sense of moral good. Frodo, Sam, and other Hobbits are naturally inclined to resist The Ring because their peaceful, simple lives are all they desire.

Oh definitely. The only other 2 people that we know use one are Saruman and Aragorn. His strong Dunedain characteristics probably helped him not just get his mind completely melted by it

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It is sort of a plot hole, Aragorn is first tempted in Bree and he has a blood right to the ring but turns it down instantly. Only explanations are either that he's a ubermensch mary sue or that he doesn't really want anything apart from Arwen so it's hard to tempt him. He doesn't assume Kingship out of desire for power either.