Why do burgers need guns?

Why do burgers need guns?

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freedom aint free

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a well regulated militia to protect us from tyranny and for the defense of our nation. no, it's not for personal defense, it's not for hunting, it's for our national defense that everyone can be a more powerful actor in our power system.

Cuz da gubmint is ebil an we gon throwz it over if dey take muh freedumbs away!

>Why do burgers need guns?
It's called the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs, Fedor

stop conflating gun control with what happened. Completely different issue.

Ronald McDonald says we do

yeah because american citizens totally have equal firepower to that of government troops and their guns can totally take down fighter aircraft

A good idea when this was an ex-colony with no professional army, just a bunch of farmers taugh to fight by the French.

>well regulated

The wors every NRA shill wants to forget.

Keep your guns for home defense and hunting but fuck the conspiratorial backwood hicks who want to hoard military ordance for themselves because they don't want to pay taxes or have anyone telling them they can't marry their ten year old cousins.

Well regulated did not mean the same thing in 1776 as it meant now. It meant well-mantained. Maybe the american education meme is true after all.

The American government couldn't take down the Vietnamese, what makes you think they could somehow put down an uprising of millions?

>Sup Forums memes about how we got our asses kicked by rice farmers and camel herders
>in the same breath claims US citizens couldn't do the same thing

our military is made up of american citizens, and you can't just carpet bomb a militia anyway. the point isn't that we need to fight a war against the government anyway, but by having military power as people our interests will be served without that need.

>a well regulated militia to protect us from tyranny
Wow, it really protected that dude from getting murdered by the manlet.

you don't know what "well regulated" means

>the government can kill you so you shouldn't have rights
very compelling argument

not sure what you're referring to

he thinks that because he and his Sup Forums friends personally follow every gun death in the United States that means we do too

t. already tyrannical and cucked by jews

You tell me you oblivious fuckass. Were they speaking english here in the 18th century? If the framers meant regulated they meant regulad.

>i-it's a mistranslation!

Jesus Christ.

Fuck off with the NRA talking points you supid hicks.

>something something Jews
>t. Russia
I hate guns now

debatably yes, and it's come with the erosion of our rights, which is a good reason for us to protect them.

regulated meant well armed, lots of guns and ammo. it's still a definition if you paid attention in english class.
dictionary.com/browse/regulate
>to put in good order:

etymonline.com/word/regulate

Well what do you know "regulate" has meant the same thing for the last 700 years. Kind of throws your "it literally used to be a different word" argument on its ass.

Now stop playing at semantics, it's unbecoming of the undereducated, inbred hick demographic.

>regulate (v.) from Late Latin regulatus, past participle of regulare "to control by rule"

How about that Cletus?

Yeah we see how good the tough gun control goes for you guys and countries like Brazil, Mexico etc.

>Why do burgers need guns?
Kill people that our hands can't reach or that we'd rather not touch because they're too icky.

because they need to protect themselves from burgers with guns

Not bad.

We were born with guns

constitution.org/cons/wellregu.htm
how about the oed or any modern dictionary because the definitions are still there although less used
thefreedictionary.com/regulate
>3. To adjust (a mechanism) for accurate and proper functioning.
>4. To put or maintain in order
do you understand?

>MUH TYRANNY XD
>police can literally execute you instantly for not playing Simon says exactly right

Haven't you paying attention to shitposts?! This is the average American, we need to protect ourselves from ourselves!

Da ibul black guy.

Russians don't understand the concept of human rights.

You don't park a jet on a street corner retard

haha good post my friend!

what?

if he had a real gun he could have shot the cop tho

>the right to adequate defense shouldn't exist because of its capacity to be abused.
>the right to freedom of speech shouldn't exist because of its capacity to be be abused.
>the right to freedom of religion shouldn't exist because of its capacity to be abused.

a right is not contingent on those who bastardize it. It exists as a means of respecting your humanity, specifically your ability to self determinate.

>modern dictionary

Well now you've pivoted an entire 180 degrees from "this is what the founders MEANT to say". And why don't you use a real dictionary? Oh right because I just checked the merriam-webster, oxford and cambridge dictionaires and your NRA definition isn't given at all.

Or rights in general, only chechens have rights here

show me the oed definitions that you just checked, also it's on merriam-webster
>to bring order, method, or uniformity to

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/regulated
>to fix or adjust the time, amount, degree, or rate of

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/regulate#English
To adjust (a mechanism) for accurate and proper functioning.
to regulate a watch, i.e. adjust its rate of running so that it will keep approximately standard time
to regulate the temperature of a room, the pressure of steam, the speed of a machine, etc.
To put or maintain in order.
to regulate the disordered state of a nation or its finances
to regulate one's eating habits

>a well regulated militia to-
>*gets shot by the police for reaching towards waistband*

websters1913.com/words/Regulate
>3. To adjust, or maintain, with respect to a desired rate, degree, or condition; as, to regulate the temperature of a room, the pressure of steam, the speed of a machine, etc.

>police arent allowed to defend themselves

They are but they rarely need to do this in countries where people aren't walking around with guns on them on the regular.

> a : to govern or direct according to rule

>police arent allowed to defen...
>gets shot because cop was bored

naturally yes, but personally I've never even talked to a policeman before so it's a non-issue

Because they're cowards, all the memes and bullshit aside it comes down to that, they need guns to feel safe.

yes you stupid fucking nigger, nobody is arguing that that isn't a different definition. did you give up?

I feel perfectly safe and I don't carry a gun anywhere. If I lived in Mexico, I probably wouldn't.

Open a history book or look at the current state of North Korea, Russia or China.

Idiots.

This is one of the subjects in which people should stop bantering you guys and actually listen, a government of a nation can't use weapons of mass destruction on its population, it needs actual ground troops to keep the people in check (police, military etc.) and harmed citizens are much harder to control with force than unharmed ones.

>only one or two people get murdered by someone who's supposed to be protecting them every month for no reason whatsoever and so far it has never been me so it's not that big of a deal
Yeah OK

in a nation of 350 million people where they probably did something stupid in the first place to get shot, yes it's not a big deal. 1 or 2 people per month is .000000286% of our population. no, it doesn't affect me, I would rather keep our freedom.

Like you did when you dropped the "this is what the founders meant", Cletus? Hardly. Your definitions of fixing watches and adjusting temperatures, as given in your example, have fuck all to do with armies. "Control by rule" does however.

Why would you NEED a gun if you feel perfectly safe? It doesn't make sense. It's a very different thing if you LIKE having a gun and the tyranny argument doesn't fly if you compare the US to DEVELOPED nations. Do you honestly believe there's Sweden is closer to becoming tiranny than the United States?

it is what the founders meant dipshit, yes, making sure guns and ammo are all in working order is very relevant for militias. and militias, not armies.

I don't need a gun, you don't NEED any rights. USA is closer to tyranny than Sweden, but I don't see how that's relevant. They don't share our history.

>it is what the founders meant

I refer you again to the etmylogical origins of "regulate", what it meant in Latin, and what it's meant in English since the 1300's.

>to rule

>probably did something stupid in the first place
The dude who got shot two days ago was literally trying two pull his pants up because it kept sliding down because that retard couldn't send someone over to handcuff him and made him crawl on the ground instead
>1 or 2 people per month is .000000286%
In the past 10 years what percentage of the population died because of radical islamic terror attack? Does that not matter? Just asking because you sure are taking measures against that
>I would rather keep our freedom
This is the most retarded argument ever. Most other countries are working fine without these "freedoms". Howcome you're not butthurt about the government not letting you keep nukes in your backyard?

I again refer you to any dictionary to see how it's used in english

1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."

1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."

1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."

1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."

1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."

1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

>The dude who got shot two days ago was literally trying two pull his pants up because it kept sliding down because that retard couldn't send someone over to handcuff him and made him crawl on the ground instead
I have no idea what you're even talking about, but I can almost guarantee you don't know the full story of whatever happened.
>In the past 10 years what percentage of the population died because of radical islamic terror attack? Does that not matter? Just asking because you sure are taking measures against that
I am also against taking measures against that, that known as the patriot act takes away our 4th amendment right to privacy.
>This is the most retarded argument ever. Most other countries are working fine without these "freedoms". Howcome you're not butthurt about the government not letting you keep nukes in your backyard?
>what is china
>what is russia
>what is france
>what is uk
and again, it's our culture and history.

Except in the example of fixing a watch which you already used everything you posted means "control". So I guess you agree with me now.

>Do you honestly believe there's Sweden is closer to becoming tiranny than the United States?
Yes.

because they stem from the same meaning. controlling the watch to make sure it's working, controlling your militia to make sure it has working guns and plenty of ammo.

do you honestly believe that by fixing the watch you are "ruling over it"? I can't believe I even have to argue this, it's a consensus on what the founders meant and you honestly need to go back to history class.

>Open a history book or look at the current state of North Korea, Russia or China.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligarchy

That's where you're wrong, I need water, I need healthcare, I need freedom of speech. Those are rights.

I don't need a gun. I gave the state a monopoly on violence by the act of becoming a citizen and vesting my own sovereignity on a constitution, on this I have the right to security whether the state comes through or not.

why does anyone need anything?

>That's where you're wrong, I need water, I need healthcare, I need freedom of speech.
those are not rights at all. you don't have a "right to water" or a "right to healthcare" as those are positive actions that someone can give to you. the government has no responsibility to do that, you have a right to provide for yourself, you don't have a "right to water" or a "right to healthcare" or a "right to freedom of speech" because freedom of speech is a freedom, meaning the government won't get in the way. and no, that is not necessary, plenty of people live fine in China or back in the USSR without freedom of speech.

Controlling the militia means not letting it do whatever it wants.

No, I don't, which is exactly why "regulating" as in fixing/maintaining a watch or a gun clearly cannot be applied to a standing army. Groups of people are ruled, not repaired.

That's a dumb meme answer, Sweden is a working democracy, or as close as humans come to producing one. That you dislike the will of the majority doesn't make them a tiranny.

>Open a history book
>southern states raised against central government
>government won
Why didn't "muh 2nd amendment" helped them?

>I have no idea what you're even talking about, but I can almost guarantee you don't know the full story of whatever happened.
youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc
Watch the video. But don't worry brave cop was acquitted already.

guns and ammo are repaired and maintained. just wait until middle school history class, they'll clarify it for you.
It did, we wouldn't have lasted 4 years without our own weapons.

Guns and ammo are not a "militia" you braindead hick.

>will of the majority
Bunch of elites brainwashing people in doing their bidding is called will of the majority now?

it makes up the militia retard. militia isn't just people, regulating a militia maintaining the ability to fight.

>PUT YOUR HANDS ABOVE YOUR HEAD AND CRAWL TOWARD ME
>BUT IF YOU TOUCH THE GROUND I WILL SHOOT YOU DEAD

what were they being arrested for? never seen cops act that serious before. that dude is a fucking retard though, putting his hands behind his back and reaching for his waste, it's not hard to just follow what the cop says.

>always boasting about muh guns
>can't actually shoot them

abc.net.au/news/2017-12-09/daniel-shaver-bodycam-footage-shows-moment-officer-shoots-man/9243148
Watch the video and pay close attention to the way he cries and begs for mercy before the cop shoots him.

>it makes up the militia retard

No, people do, hick.

>hey look a militia

>those are not rights at all
I bet your one of those loonies who thinks the UN only exists to steal your guns and escort you to the FEMA death camps

Those are rights in my country, they're in the constitution and specifically designated as such, we don't live in the 18th century. Rights are derived as a necessity of social contract, you understand I don't have the option to opt out of my government holding authority over me, don't you? You cannot live with dignity without providing for the eventuality of medical attention, and yes that's also a right in my constitution, you cannot live without water at all. The sate has the faculty to determine how water resources are used but it most do so in a manner that protects my right to have access to it. You're using some vague relativistic definition of rights, most nations acknowledge these specifically as such.

this isn't a militia either tard. a militia contains weapons and trained people, it's not a group of people but an entity like you could have a well regulated sports team. it's not just random people, but people with good equipment and skills.

it doesn't do much else
basically rights take away your freedom. with freedom you can do what you want, with rights you demand people give stuff to you for free, which takes away others freedom as it requires coercion. so no, we don't have a right to water or health care. we have the freedom to attain it.

It made that document, and in first world countries people actually live by it too.

Your pic could very well be a militia, if it is regulated (ie controlled) like one.

>"B-but ," the hick responds, "are those people being repaired? Like a watch?"

>Sweden is a working democracy

this has to be a joke

no, they aren't a militia and you know it. people aren't a militia and a militia can be maintained and well regulated.

Fuck off nigger

no, i have a gun to get niggers to fuck off

They just realized they're being them

I don't have a right to break into another man's home and help myself to his possesions to satisfy my needs, my freedom ends where another person's begins. Yes, the state exercises coercion, including yours, but that's in exchange of something. Without laws large concentrations of people would be impossible, and without those I would not have the benefit of a real education or any advanced technology. The ways in which those improve my life is well worth the small amount of freedom I sacrifice, I'd rather be taxed a bit extra and know I'm guaranteed medical attention and none of my peers needs to be concerned with my own irresponsibility leaving it in their hands whether I live or not, I don't have to beg for something most sane mebers of my society agree we should all have as a basic right.

You pay more of your taxes into healthcare than most developed nations yet are not entitled to it, somehow you believe this is freedom. Your government will still go after yopu if you don't pay taxes, your cops can shoot you on the flimsiest of excuses and yet somehow you believe you have more freedom.

You ARE the nigger