Brasil has had a larger ideological shift than the U.S to the right wing

Just thought I should let you guys know. The ideological shift has been really, really, really huge.
Has any other latin american bros experienced this? Because you know, we've had semi "right-wing" military dictatorships but our peoples were never right-wing, until probably now.

Why are monkeys concerned with ideology? Shouldn't you being flinging shit at each other and dodging your drug lord for unpaid debts?

Poor people are really sick of this situation. And they suffer the most. We can't keep them like that.

Fucking leaf chinks. Stop pretending to be humans.

Very different "right-wings".

lolz @ light skin vs dark skin race war in brazil

Nobady cares about us m8

there there

I work with some of your peeps sao carlos

You're not all bad.

Its not about being bad/stupid people, is about been Economic/Political relevant.

We'll care about you when our citizens are there for the Olympics.

Oh they will get killed it will be fun.

Well one thing i can tell you m8, the people did not want the olimpics here.

What is right wing in Brazil ? In terms of
1 Trade
2 imigration
3 military
4 religion
5 economy

you guys are a bunch of niggers and spics, and I don't care at all about what happens to you.

Você pode me dar alguns artigos sobre este fenómeno?

Yeah well when the CIA turns over your government, better or worse, then that means you're relevant.

Well it will look bad for you. Then again everybody knew your shitty country couldn't handle it.

I dont blame you. You guys have bigger things to worry about than hosting the most prestigious Sporting event in the world when you can't even provide adequate security from the hordes of slum dwellers and gangs.

August will be the happeningest month of 2016.
Thanks Brazil.

Depends on what you consider right wing in the first place.

Trade is left as fuck, the government wants to comtrol it.
Imigration, Never had any problem until zika and isis,
Military, there is a sence of partriotism/nacionalism i served my time and is right wing as hell.
Religion, Christian for the most part also big homofobic out of major cities.
Economy same problem as trade.

>1 Trade
Trade with people who do not have dictators in power, try not to feed dictatorships.
>2 imigration
No immigration from worse places, we even have rejected like 90% of the refugees, we stood up to the EU.
>3 military
Expand the military and use it to solve internal problems also.
>4 religion
Christianity or BTFO.
>5 economy
Lower taxes and individuality.

That is because you are retarded and have no idea on the global implications such things could have.

The CIA did not do it, are you really that stupid? Only leftist idiots believe in that.
It will not handle it and I don't care, Rio is fucked up, really. Everyone knows it.
Long way to go yes but I'm talking about the people. Which became very accepting to the fact of the left wing domination and are fighting it.

I think that we (brazilians) are right wing by nature /instinct. this left thing will die in 10 years

>The CIA did not do it, are you really that stupid? Only leftist idiots believe in that.
I didn't think so at first, but whether it was the CIA or some other group there was some outside help.

Well whaddya fucking know

After the left has been in power for decades and fucks shit up for everyone, the population just doesn't buy into the whole diversity and equality meme anymore.

No offense to you guys, but I really hope other countries take what's happening in Brazil and Venezuela (and soon the EU) as recent examples of socialism and left wing ideologies failing, because otherwise they'd fall back on the >but commies didn't practice REAL socialism! meme. Hope you guys make it out okay

>Imigration, Never had any problem until zika and isis,
Is it true that there is a decently sized Muslim minority in Brazil? I'd imagine the biggest threat to the Rio Olympics is terrorism from the local population.

Just look at the recent impeachment, also search for a guy named bolsonaro.

Is it most people or just white Brazilians?

The talking class and upper classes were always left wing for the last 40 years.
That is not true but even if it was the country just NEEDED that.
Listen weaker burger or chink, hmm not really, we have less than 1% of the population who declares themselves as muslim, they could become a problem in the Olympics who knows right? People need to be fucking idiots to come to status-quo Rio. Really, really fucking dumb. It is overall much less likely for an actual muslim attack to happen here than to happen in Canada where the muslim minority is becoming relevant.

Yes, most Muslim comunity here is sirian/lebanese who established in the end of 19 century and 20 century, i think that radical islam i most cases is about been poor.

I know about Bolsonaro, I sometimes read Brazilian news portals, mostly Veja.

Most of the white brazilians are cucks.
Some of them are really really red pilled but they are an irrelevant number. In my social circle most people are blue pilled beyond salvation.
But your average pardo is becoming right wing very fast.
Something could happen in this Olympics to prove some kind of loyalty and sheit, just look for our muslim-degenerator funkeiros who keep joking about the prophet Mohammad.

But as I said believe me, you'd have to be stupid to go to the Olympics.

>That is not true but even if it was the country just NEEDED that.
That's how our psyops people operate.

It's like for instance if you ask people about the Arab Spring. Of course that happened on its own, but once it got going it was game on.

I personally think it was a good thing and I said so at the time. We'd rather have a stable and friendly Brazil than a BRICS partner.

I cant point you a specific article because its a change that we are seeing i regular day bases, also our prees i left wing because of the military regime.

Well I suppose that's the best thing ive heard about this whole affair. I imagine Muslim visitors for the Olympics will be heavily scrutinized so it may be too difficult for them to launch an attack.

That only leaves Brazil's rampant crime and Zika outbreaks as the biggest threats to the Olympics being successful.

Brazilianbros Look out for religion we went full secularism everything was great for a while but at some point we wiped out Virtues prudence, justice, temperance, and courage, and Muslims be carefull of them Lower taxes and individuality for economy is actualy pretty good

I not saing that cannot happen, just saying that the ones we have here are probably to cuked to do it.

You did not do shit.
Also go make some more white babies or we'll be whiter in less than 2 decades.
That BRICS shit was such a failure you would not even imagine.
Search for "Escola sem Partido". This is getting huge. It forbids indoctrination, explicitly.
Zika is not an issue. Doesn't reach even 0,01% of the population. But crime and murders really are. Our military will be on the streets tho but I would like to see happenings, like that New Zealander fag which looked like our common average criminal that got "kidnapped", it was so fun haha, he was BTFO, now I bet he'll think that he should get a real job and dress like a person.

Why would you want to lower taxes on (((corporations))) though? They love multiculturalism and PC culture.

Yes. We know the value of proper religion and most of us push it even if we don't personally believe in it.

Oh yes, our right wing is also against "metacapitalism" or "jew capitalism". But pro free market.

>Zika is not an issue.
I believe you, but there are many athletes who believe this is a significant problem and are boycotting for this reason.

Damn, where the fuck do you get your bantz from?

Don't know if you guys heard about it but 10 guys were arrest this week.

>That BRICS shit was such a failure you would not even imagine
Yeah, kind of disappointing. It was an interesting idea, though. In my opinion Brazil is doing a pretty nice job of playing the field as far as South America goes, but that's not my field of expertise.

But believe me. We do shit everywhere all the time.

>athletes boycotting the Olympics over a non-issue
Means they didn't take the time to see some actual statistics.
>people coming to Rio even though it is completely fucked up
Also means they didn't take the time to see some actual statistics.

>but our peoples were never right-wing

This tells us fucking nothing.

DESCRIBE the ideological attitudes, views, opinions, and desires. What do these consist of? What do they look like?

What are the political aspirations of the "right-wing" people of Brazil? What do they want to accomplish? How are they doing this?

Someone needs to you know.
Like China colonizing Africa and many major countries like Canada now. This is the closest thing to a quiet nazi-germany I've ever witnessed.

>its a change that we are seeing i regular day bases
Well, that would be great, I mean if it's some kind of serious trend.

>Escola sem Partido
Obrigado, estou lendo agora.

Is Poland as catholic as people make it to be?
If there was a process on doing this I would like to learn more because as I can see Poland is a pretty stable State right now, isn't it? Low murder rate and lots of the people I talk to who are polish say that it is a great place to live nowadays.

i thought the poor people who benefited during boom years were like still fanatical supporters of lula if not dilma

If you google ''escola sem partido'' most articles you will find will say that is a bad projec. to explain it to you in a few words is this: teachers and books canot say that Fidel Castro is good and Ronald Reagan is bad tha need to talk abou both the same way ponting out good and bad characteristics.

I always meant to have a closer look at Africa because it was an obvious contention zone well before China came in. I'd put it on par with the ME in terms of trying to play games with who's doing what.

But there's a strong Nazi-style contingent in the CIA according to my understanding. Don't forget we imported a whole bunch of them into the OSS in order to create the CIA and then had the Soviets as enemy #1 for quite some time

My opinion is that's a bygone generation these days. To take an easy quote from Trump: OUR LEADERS ARE STUPID. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

The average polish IQ is even higher than USA's.
Poor and uneducated people did vote for them yes. Also the (((worst types of elite))) really liked them.
With the internet most of them understood what the Worker's party was really trying to do.
But you know what? Lula was a plant from the military dictatorship.
He was pretty much indoctrinated by them, this is very strange for you guys to understand but our military dictatorship wasn't even right wing, it was positivist, which was only guerrilla-averse, not communist averse in fact.
Read with caution if the source looks socialist/communist, it's their final blow if we get to pass this project.

So you're telling me the nazis won the war right?

Nah, just that there are a lot of different kind of belief structures in our various agencies. It's not tinfoil stuff. It's pretty normal that not everybody thinks the same way.

>our military dictatorship wasn't even right wing, it was positivist, which was only guerrilla-averse, not communist averse in fact.

Can't agree with you there m8, DOPS and CCC hunted the ideology of comunism here.

(Citation Needed)

They hunted and censored guerrilla people and NEWS ABOUT IT also, that could have people join them.
They didn't censor the marxist and cultural-marxist books.

They didn't?

Well, technically speaking, due to various historical reasons, Poland is probably the most Catholic country right now. Of course it doesn't mean that we don't have any leftards, but there are some really positive trends, like - for example - the fact that young Poles (20-30 y.o.) tend to support national/conservative/etc. ideas. There is even some new trend in fashion (google "odzież patriotyczna" - it means "patriotic clothes" and you will see what I mean). Crime is not a problem, but generally speaking all European countries west of Ukraine/Belarus have murder rates =~1/100k. There are two problems in this part of the world - you have to work a lot to achieve the same level of consumption as in Western Europe, second - there is always some potential military threat from the East (not very serious, but it exists).

good job

don't fall for this shit

Yep, I know that book by Leonardo Narloch (Guia Politicamente Incorreto da História do Brasil) and he writes something like that, that all Brazilian historiography was dominated by these leftist myths.

We also do have those in "Vista Direita", which puts into perspective philosophers like Olavo de Carvalho and traditionalists, you can look it up on Facebook.
Do they want your territory or what? (You mean Russia maybe?)
I will visit Poland someday, I really like that place, even though it is not as rich as the western countries, it has the high moral standards, which I believe to be more important over money.
We are VERY aware of that cultural infiltration, but they're still in power. (they have been for decades now, but they are losing now)
Exactly, our monarchy got out in an unjust way. Also, Narloch is libertarian, which does not please the majority of our conservatives. He gives zero fucks about immigration and traditions. He is, unfortunately and TO SOME EXTENT, a white brazilian cuck.

Feminists and left wing cuks will call you facist and racist if you say you suport trump here (and other right wing ideas)

I'm hoping we can consolidate enough to reform the ARENA party. This is doable, and can be done quickly with some effort, but won't happen before the 2018 elections.

Would be unpopular, Eneas didn't have charisma. Charisma is NEEDED. We need Eneas guys in the backstage not in the front stage. Sorry.

Eneas was crazy as fuck, people today miss him like he was the saviour of BRAZA

ARENA is the military's old party, Eneas' was PRONA

What matters the most is to unite the religious and the military leaning, and bring as many of the agricultural politicians over to an explicitly right-wing party.

Oh wtf, you're right sorry there I mistook PRONA for ARENA. Hmm what we can realistically do is elect Bolsonaro.

what makes you think things shifted?

>Olavo de Carvalho
I know about him, he seems to be very interesting aside from the fact that he is a supporter of astrology (WTF?) and that he published one book with A. Dugin (I think that Dugin is rather retarded, unlike earlier Russian "eurasianists").

Speaking about Brazilian thinkers - I think that Revolução e Contra-Revolução by Plinio Corrêa De Oliveira is one of the most important books all rights should know.

>Do they want your territory or what? (You mean Russia maybe?)
No, there is tension and situations like that tend to be dangerous in this part of Europe, especially when we have some large-scale changes in all geopolitical relations (I mean that the USA is losing their status as the only superpower, Russia is in crisis due because new technologies undermined their main source of revenue et. etc.)

As for Narloch - my problem is that I only started learning Portuguese, I know him, I know one leftist historian - Abraham Pais, plus Oliveira, that's all.

>all rights should know
rightists

Things aren't looking good for him in the Supreme Court. He already has 4 votes against him, 2 more and he will be condemned. The judge who analyzed his case made it pretty clear that this is to punish him for everything he has said, and to block him from running.

Unless there's something as insane as ISIS killing hundreds of people in Rio, the Supreme Court will condemn him, and block him from running for 8 years, pretty much the end of his career, considering his age.

>the USA is
are
fuck, sorry, didn't sleep all night

>Abraham Pais
kek, Antonio Paim,I mean his Momentos decisivos da historia do Brasil, Pais was a historian of science, sry

If he loses his, there is Eduardo Bolsonaro.

>Olavo into astrology, it is in fact pretty strange and biased that you came to know him FOR IT, this is bad
Wow, he was an astrology student 30 years ago, then he gave up on it because it was not a solution but a "problem" that could not be solved. He debated Dugin, he hates Dugin.
Plinio Corrêa De Oliveira was a great man.

>tensions
Things are about to change with the U.S having its demography and domestic education complete dumbed down by the leftist system.

This is 1984 like.

>Wow, he was an astrology student 30 years ago, then he gave up on it because it was not a solution but a "problem" that could not be solved. He debated Dugin, he hates Dugin.
Then sorry, I had incorrect data, I will check his books

>Plinio Corrêa De Oliveira
Exactly, BTW, he received one of the most important Polish orders - Polonia Restituta

Yes, there's still much to be done, it's not like the entire future of the Brazilian right depends on him.

Right now, it sort of does, but we aren't stopping anytime soon. That he is denied his candidature might be beneficial to the long term, since it puts us towards planning for the future.

Even if he was elected, he would be under PSC, a weird party, which has a tiny presence in Congress, the Senate, and in state's governments. If Bolsonaro was elected, he would need a makeshift coalition with PMDB, PSDB, DEM and others.

He would also be vulnerable to be attacked from all sides. Collor was also elected by a small party, and he got impeached.

So for these next elections, we need the right wing as an explicit force in politics and united in a single party. From there, elect our own to as many positions as we can, from "vereadores" to senators.

There are a lot of willing and energized young people, if everyone stays involved in politics, at least having some presence in their cities political life, we will have a strong and lasting force.

Yeah sure but brazilian right wing is one of the most retarded I've ever had the displeasure to witness.

Care to elaborate?

i chat with some brazilians
they said a coup was likely

how's it a coup if the military rules with right-wing policies and the people WANT right wing politics right now?

I'm on my phone but basically they blindly follow the politically retarded, Israel-loving Jair Bolsonaro as their representative and has as main thinker a fucking astrologist who is also all lovey-dovey with Zionism and literally calls whoever disagrees with him fucking retarded.

BR right is a huge meme. You can go to any average "right winger", talk about how socialist policies would be nice and the "right winger" would agree with everything you say.

Huehues on suicide watch

There's no chance of a coup. Things overall are shaky, but somewhat stable and seem to be improving.
There's nothing like political violence or sedition to warrant military intervention.
They aren't going to stick their feet deep into the government again just because a ton of politicians fucked up.

OK, thanks. BTW, check Revolution and Counter-Revolution by Plinio Corrêa De Oliveira.

at this point only an army f organ grinders could bring any order to brazil

Shitty bants from a maple nigger, probably a chink to boot. Don't throw stones in a glass house son.

We got stuck with a socialist goverment that wants to regulate everything
basically we want to become the US from South america