Does google have a point?

Do filmmakers have a moral obligation to push for representation of underrepresented groups, under the logic that what people see in movies/tv determines their profession?

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no, only obligation should be to make good movies
since the real target is to make money though, and since you can have your brand tarnished by people raving about equal representation, maybe it is an obligation for studios at the moment and that is very homosexual

yes, white male filmmakers have trouble creating media that isn't a mirror of them selves and must take extra steps to rectify that.

that there's such a strong negative reaction by that group to female and minority representation proves that representation's necessity -- if that status quo weren't so homogenous, there wouldn't be such a huge uproar and resentment whenever that homogeneity is challenged.

>The characters we see on-screen play a significant part in determining the roles we occupy off-screen. In a recent study, only 15% of K-12 students remember seeing women performing computer science tasks "most of the time" in film or TV. This is reflected in real life where women make up only 17% of computer science majors – a steady decline from a peak at 37% in 1984.

So this must mean that prior to 84 about 37% of computer nerds in movies were women.

Am I getting this idea right?

And if we make a bunch of movies about women coal miners, then we will finally see the gender gap in mining disappear?

people in general have trouble creating media that isn't at least partly a mirror of themselves, write what they know for one, and for 2 they're probably too overwhelmed by all the petty political demands that go into writing a black or asian or lady character.
There are exceptions, but it seems like a lot of the exceptions are coming from people like Joss Whedon who have fem leads who are super strong witty you go girl caricatures and should be gassed

Gee I wonder why artists would get pissed when non-artist are telling them that their art has to be this thing or that

Meh, for a moment I thought it was a PoI thread

>google assuming things
how does google know what they identify as?

Yeah, when the fuck is the gouvernent going to appoint a diversity quota in movies and television?

>Film
>Television
>Art

choose one

>Do filmmakers

No but I guess the idea is that Hollywood is this giant global industry that owns everything. And it's not like these huge conglomerates make decisions based on "artistic merit" anyways.

with the white male detector is easier to wipe them out with drones now

I hide in the snow, what now CIA niggers

No. The best actor/actress should get the role and it just happens that men are better than females at almost everything at the highest levels.
It's not like white people are demanding more white players in the NFL/NBA.

You're right, only kinographié constitutes art.

Here's a crazy idea

Why don't we allow a free market where people can make whatever TV shows and movies they like?

That way, if somebody wants to make a movie or TV show full of women or minorities, they are absolutely free to do that.

Problem solved!

Misogynist.

Oh wow this is the ultimate in "correlation obviously equals causation" assumptions.

Because that is already what is happening?

But that is exactly what google research is arguing for

How dare you. We need a government agency to monitor all movies and make sure they have the correct diversity so that we can be on the right side of history

How exactly?

No it sounds like they want to force women and minorities into ALL movies and TV shows. What I'm saying is, instead of complaining how there are movies that don't have many women and minorities in them, why not make your own goddamn movies with as many women and minorities as you like? If people really are crying out for movies with more women and minorities in them then such movies are BOUND to be a success aren't they? Unless... unless maybe people don't really want movies and TV shows with more women and minorities in them? No.... no that can't be it.

Ghostbusters 2016 is proof that higher ups are willing to take a bath on profits if it furthers their agenda

>the reason why girls don't want to be programmers is because they don't see girl programmers in their movies

Hmm, could there possibly be a third, unrelated variable involved here? Nah, can't possibly be.

Yeah. And then those movies tank. Instead of realising that shit doesn't sell, they try to tell the customer there's something wrong with them.

>Unless... unless maybe people don't really want movies and TV shows with more women and minorities in them? No.... no that can't be it.

I'm pretty sure there have been studies that show women prefer to see movies with males leads

All this admits is that people are too stupid to think for themselves

And that they are engaging in controlling the minds of people via representation

First women are appearing as scientist
Or blacks
Or Hispanics

Then they're trans surgeons

Then they're in loving relationships with minors

Then there world is our world

no but animal book authors do.

No, film doesn't need to push anything... it SHOULD BE Entertainment but people whine and moan and expect them to do their work for them. This is 2017 in North America ... ANYONE can be ANYTHING they fucking WANT. Get off your fucking asses and go do it.

>web.archive.org/web/20170311111435/http://www.google.com/about/main/gender-equality-films/

why did they change the color of the squares?

>know a shit ton of females going for science degrees freshman year
>down to hundreds the next year
>down to about 30 the year after
>down to no more than 15 final year
yeah, its definitely the fact that there are no women scientists on tv. Not that the job itself sucks dick and once again men are shoe-horned into the jobs

youtube.com/watch?v=LSzP9YV3jbc

>web.archive.org/web/20170311111435/http://www.google.com/about/main/gender-equality-films/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nah it's just they are realizing they dont want equality. Women essentially want to be the patriarchy, they want to be CEOs and would fight to own slaves.

And north american blacks are the most racist group in the planet.

...

Thats actually how Hollywood is working now.

Literally the entire thing is based on the free market and how well it can sell, sometimes you see things like shoehorned diversity,etc.

The idea that anyone has a kind of "moral obligation" to produce media for somebody else is so outrageously bogus I have no idea why anyone even considers it for a second. Do you know what you call media produced as part of an ideological campaign? Propaganda. Fuck off.

Your lack of respect for artistry is why your ilk will never produce entertainment worth consuming, ever.

Casting decisions are a mix of corporate meetings, based on who they think will have the best draw for a picture, and also creative decisions by the director. If the director doesn't give a fuck and just lets the suits do the casting then the movie is probably going to be garbage due to his neglect.

No. Art imitates life, not the other way round.

>Jewywood film makers
>"morals"

nice b8 m8

look, fellas, we aren't actually gonna curb white genocide at this rate.

producers are just hedging bets that the white male audience is gonna disappear from almost every corner of entertainment, so we gotta get people used to looking at other skin tones.

media white guilt or not I bet the only reason that movie was even popular was because it had Bazooper there in it

These people are literally turning into the bad guys that crazy conspiracy theorists think are out there trying to control out thoughts through subtle mass media indoctrination.

Life fucking imitating art. Jesus christ.

Google needs the government to hand them their ass like they did to Microsoft

They're fucking too big, now they're attempting to do social engineering every day on their search page

>see minorities in science fields
>see women in technology
>etc
in the past year
Let's not forget the classic NASA event

Seriously. This shit is getting out of control.

>google assuming gender based on appearance

FUCKING TRIGGERED THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC I AM LITERALLY SHAKING