So this movie is shaping up to be rather unsubtle. The apes are so numerous now that they threaten to naturally push humans aside. Achieving dominance without the need for war.
One last group of humans intend to fight before it's too late, their defeat meaning the planet will now belong to the apes and human history will come to an end. And among them are even "uncle Tom" apes fighting alongside the humans to the chagrin of other apes.
Any other westerners getting a little unsettled seeing the dramatization of the end days?
theres a new one coming out? rise of the planet of the apes was kino, dawn was shit
Anthony Gonzalez
I mean, they've made it fairly clear this was to be a trilogy
And I actually think this last one looks to be the most interesting one, the other two I just watched because I had the time and was pleasantly surprised at the quality. But this last one looks to be a proper grand finale
It's true, and the worst thing is we let it happen, we fucking cucked ourselves out of history. Our only redemption will be if we launch all the nukes in one last act of defiance.
David Watson
Never seen the new planet of the apes movies, how the fuck do the apes get to this point? I know that there's a virus that kills a few million humans while making the apes smarter, but how in the fuck did they become more powerful than humanity while riding horseback with fucking bows?
Christopher Davis
It's hinted that civil wars fucked up what's left of humanity, it doesn't really hold up though given most of the human population were dead anyway, not many to fight one another and theres no hint of much of a nuclear war, at least not enough to have a wide range effect on the environment, that's one of the sticklers, there is no significant environmental damage so there doesn't seem to be any reason for humans not to just start thriving, there are entire continents with probably millions of immune people with abundant resources yet we are to believe humans are basically completely fucked.
Matthew Mitchell
They didn't just kill a few million, it killed 99.8%
It's basically Fallout 4 now but with a plague causing the destruction of civilization, and evolved apes instead of super mutants
Hunter Reed
Wow this is actually not false
Benjamin Lewis
wouldn't they be just contained to the US though? or at least to the americas?
Parker Bell
They answered that by showing a pilot being among the first infected in the first movie
Jaxson Bell
The first man to get infected went directly to an international airport.
Kevin Williams
sorry, I meant the apes. I knew that the virus spread
Lucas Richardson
Dude, they were only like 13% of the total population of NA. In Africa there are Billions of them.
Jason Peterson
Damn dirty niggers
Eli Wood
my point is, Caesar is the original intelligent ape, he made the other apes intelligent with that gas shit and they went innawoods and whatever
europe doesn't have native monkeys and even if they did they would just be dumb animals
99.8% of the population is a lot but I'm pretty sure it would not mean the end
Jackson Perry
Well it hasn't been the end yet, in Dawn of the Planet of the Apes it shows they are basically at the same level at this point, but the apes have the advantage now that humans don't have modern comforts and easy access to modern technology
The second movie showed that they had no electricity, which makes sense, lack of manpower means no one to mine for fuel or maintain power plants, a lot of the plot in the second movie is about the humans working to get the hydro damn functioning again and bringing electricity back, which causes fear among the apes as this would put humans in an advantage again, and they kill a lot of the humans in that particular settlement
In the upcoming movie it looks like the military base is perhaps one of the last strongholds of humanity, with technology and weaponry that threatens ape dominance
Jonathan Murphy
>gasing them makes them smarter
So THAT'S how (((they))) ended up controlling everythng. Makes sense.
Xavier Nguyen
>last strongholds of humanity again, in the US maybe I mean even if humans lose all modern comfort, I don't believe for a second they wouldn't form small self serving communities. You have a lot more space now anyway
David Myers
Well they do form communities, the second movie showed this, I'm sure that the Eurasian continent has plenty of human factions surviving, but it also spreads to make apes smarter, so if it spread to the apes in Africa and Asia then the humans there are even more screwed than in North America
But point is only a few humans still have some semblance to a modern way of life, the military base has containers of fuel to power their transports and the electricity in their base, and they have the weapons to defend themselves, something the other human communities don't have since so many people died that people stopped making new things and maintain things
Nicholas Barnes
>fallout 4 Because previous fallouts had no supermutants and humanity was thriving, right?
Kevin Sanders
DUDE NIGGERS LMAO
Luis Scott
Probably someone no older than 15
Ethan Adams
>Fallout 4 Pretty sure all Fallouts were like that, but of course a 13 year old normalfag like you would only cite the worst and most barebones one.
Robert Anderson
>man humans are dying out and Apes are taking over >oooh lets go to war with the last 200 humans we have left that should work!
excuse me but what?
since the apes are clearly intelligent shouldnt they just try to work out some sort of peace bargain or something? divy up the planet with humanworld and apeworld?
this is such fucking bullshit. If you are on your last legs the LAST thing you should do is go looking for a fight. Im tired of this BUT DEY ARE JUST DUMB APES!!! excuse too because theyve been shown to be smart to the point of LITERALLY understanding and being able to speak english and they only reasons humans dont respect animals NOW is because theyre mentally inferior not because we are specist or something.
Owen Long
It's so subtle right?
Levi Watson
It's not the last 200 humans, but it's the last humans that could realistically defeat the apes before it's too late
It was already shown in the last movie what will happen to the humans without military tech trying to coexist, they got massacred because you can't rely on every ape to be peaceful
I understand fully why the humans are going for a last stand, it's either make a last ditch attempt to come out on top or accept defeat
Saying they should coexist and just let the apes take is from the same cloth as the people who walk around with "welcome refugees" banners
Xavier Green
how is it niggers though?
dont hispanics outnumber blacks in the US?
Luke Ward
As if hispanics aren't just niggers speaking spanish
Nathaniel James
>worst That's FO3, pal.
Owen Williams
Fallout 4 is definitely worse, at least in Fallout 3 you weren't fleeing from NPCs trying to give you more radiant quests, and the content wasn't 30% settlement building bullshit
Dylan Kelly
why not just leave the mainland where all the apes are located then?
theres no way small islands like Japan or w/e are infested by the mainland apes
also
>welcome refugee banners
except those people are being willingly invited in and the people doing it actually want it to happen apparently
Connor Harris
>why not just leave the mainland where all the apes are located then?
Wouldn't that be admitting defeat though? Better to try and win when there's a chance and run away if you lose than to accept defeat and flee to a temporary sanctuary
Noah Hernandez
>doing this "muh pride" shit when extinction is on the line
are you actually retarded?
Ethan James
Fallout 4 was worse than 3. 3 isn't great in anyway but at least it had a decent opening, better gameplay and didn't have settlement BS. The only thing 4 has over it was better companions
Jaxson Turner
FO4 had much more refined gameplay, more stylish graphics, and overall more polish. And you can skip the radiant quests and settlement building altogether. Although, I don't know why you'd even complain about the settlement building's inclusion, as both it and a crafting system lend themselves well to a post-apocalyptic setting. There's a reason why settlement building mods are so popular for FO3 and NV; they simply decided to add a highly requested feature.
And while FO4 had plot holes and world inconsistencies, FO3 had nonsense world building and plot canyons. You really can't skip the narrative elements of a game, just ignore it at best. And despite the retarded dialogue system in FO4, you have more agency in the main quest than you did in FO3. Neither game handles morality well, but FO4 at least tried to insert some moral ambiguity.
Landon Clark
I wouldn't be surprised at all if they announced a planet of the apes remake after this one.
I'd watch it too.
Lincoln Lee
.2% of humanity still vastly outnumbers the other great apes or populations they could breed to in a few generations
Dominic Scott
It isn't about pride, it's about making a stand while it's still possible, better to have your Waterloo than stay on Elba and end thing in silence
Chase Garcia
>muh fight against th dying of the light
why would you choose to die face first in the dirt fighting a war against a enemy you didnt have to instead of relishing in what little time you have left, try to rediscover family and friendship then go peacefully
I'd rather sit around campfires laughing and bonding with people than going on suicide operations to kill some monkeys who aren't even responsible for the death of humanity.
Nathan Nelson
there are an estimated 500,000 great apes alive in the wild zoo populations won't had a huge chunk onto this
0.2% of 7 billion is 14 million
14 million human survivors vs 500k smart apes living like cavemen
hmmm yeah, we're really fucked
Aiden Rodriguez
That's of course only those killed by the virus. There's also those killed during the fight for resources
It isn't exactly stated how many survivors there are, but few enough for the survivors in the San Francisco Bay Area to be outnumbered by the neighboring ape colony
Owen Martin
(((we)))
Hunter Harris
It's a pretty fucking stupid movie series, user. You are meant to root for the villains.
Alexander Adams
see even with mass infighting in humans (don't understand why this would need to occur desu since there would be more than enough resources) humans would still have a staggering numerical advantage.
Samuel Parker
Not sure if I'll be surprised when there's a scene in the new movie showing a cult worshiping a nuclear warhead
Xavier Nelson
Well you're not alone, there are probably several human settlements by the time of the third movie, but it seems like the plot will revolve around the military base that is taking up one last stand for humanity
Personally I would rather fight if I thought there was a chance, better than to lose everything while not trying
Matthew Richardson
>(don't understand why this would need to occur desu since there would be more than enough resources)
You obviously don't understand how much modern society rely on sheer manpower. Your food doesn't come from nowhere, it isn't transported by no one, it isn't sold by anyone.
Once nearly all of humanity dies out resources will start to dry out really quickly. The power will go out since there are no one to gather, process, refine, and transport fuel. Factories will shut down as there are no power and no workers, and worst of all is 99% of the police and military are dead, so no protection.
Cameron Bailey
The virus killed a huge chunk of the population. Many more millions died because of lack of resources, survival in-fights and to other diseases.
They point out in the second movie how apes can live fine in the open while humans are weak.
Logan Ramirez
>their defeat meaning the planet will now belong to the apes and human history will come to an end Then don't fight a war, they decided to continue the war. A war that Caesar never wanted >Any other westerners getting a little unsettled seeing the dramatization of the end days? Seeing how many others apocalypses we have seen in movies
No >and they kill a lot of the humans in that particular settlement Only because of one ape who made the whole thing happened, who wanted war because he hated humans.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Because in the movies humans think that the apes caused humanity's extinction, so why would they trust the creatures that killed their friends and family?
Jeremiah Foster
>Only because of one ape who made the whole thing happened, who wanted war because he hated humans.
And who is to say there won't be another?
Carter Ross
>people cant tell the difference between monkey mauling and a disease that gives you nose bleeds and causes tissue deterioration >monkey attacks were all over the news before humanity collapsed and not HOLY SHIT THIS VIRUS IS EVERYWHERE DONT GO OUTSIDE UNLESS YOU HAVE GAS MAS*GAAACK* >general public is stupid enough to think that a couple smart monkeys could kill 99.8% of the world
who the fuck wrote this shit? it takes like 5 seconds of critical thinking to understand that theres no way in hell the apes wiped out humanity as opposed to a viral epidemic
Jonathan Murphy
There probably are other, Koba probably wasn't the only ape in cesars group who was a lab rat his entire life. That is why Caesar wanted to keep the groups separated
Thomas Mitchell
>to the chagrin of other apes get a load of this faggot
Samuel Martin
>Big news story about apes escaping from a zoo >Shortly thereafter people notice a virus outbreak who originates from the area where the ape escapes Furthermore do you know how much panic was spread when the news where all over the swine and bird flu? >people cant tell the difference between monkey mauling and a disease that gives you nose bleeds and causes tissue deterioration It's like you never heard of carriers
Ayden Gray
What could happen if caesar's ape colony(or another intelligent ape group) encounters a group of wild apes living in the jungle?
Brody Long
they would either completely destroy the retards, or let them in and slowly mix the two groups into one.
Jaxson Williams
that kind of makes a bit more sense but even then it doesn't necessarily prove the apes have malicious intent
mosquitoes aren't aware that they have ebola.
Idk
Im just not seeing how in all this there arent any skeptics who are calling bullshit and just saying fuck you to the gung-ho assholes who want a (most likely) unwinnable war
wild apes would kick Caesars apes ass probably. Alot of apes would have questions on why thier own brethren are attacking them. a BETTER question is just how many speicies of apes were affected. I think baboons are terrifying and I wouldnt want any extra smart baboons running around looking for man flesh. or what about other animals that are kinda close to monkeys like Lemurs
Leo Harris
Fuck this I just wanna see the people beneath the planet of the apes. The second one is easily my favorite, followed by the first then the fourth where all the apes are rocking those dope ass jumpsuits.
I don't want some half assed fags worshipping a bomb only as the last scene of the credits. No I want those skinless mind raping fucks in their fly robes. I need to see that shit.
Juan Adams
The apes don't have malicious intent (well not all of them at least)
But humans don't care, as far as they know apes caused everyone to die and for everything to stop. So fear and hate is all humans will feel towards apes >mosquitoes aren't aware that they have ebola. And nobody likes mosquitoes, in fact humans hate them.
Blake Richardson
These new movies are pretty god damn good. Bet they will be the best new trilogy of this millennium.
Elijah Torres
not sure if I'm helping out or not, but at this point the virus or whatever is irrelevant. They're not trying to kill them to put an end to the virus. All the virus did was reduce the human population by a shitload, I don't even think it's still around. At this point, woody is starting a war to balance out the numbers
also, they're smarter and still retain all the qualities of wild chimps. They're not only smarter, they're smart enough to know that wild chimps are wild and would not be confused by them attacking them. Also, baboons are monkeys, not apes.
Elijah Taylor
When the negroes were discovered they said the same about them. Look at them now, they are everywhere...
Connor Rodriguez
>there are now nine Planet of The Apes movies What a time to be alive.
Carson Kelly
>, I don't even think it's still around oh it is, Virus are already around. The humans who aren't killed by it are immune to it
And you become immune to a virus by making it a permanent part of your body.
Josiah Phillips
>I don't want some half assed fags worshipping a bomb only as the last scene of the credits. No I want those skinless mind raping fucks in their fly robes. I need to see that shit.
These are their ancestors. Still got hundreds of years.
Michael Bailey
except humans are weak and stupid without infrastructure and the 500k smart apes are like retards with retard strength that suddenly got a 70-100 point IQ bump
Kayden Mitchell
Why don't we fight the apes with an army of apes then? Send a team to Detroit and get an army of PCP'ed up niggers to fight in the ape wars. We would be the jews of these wars, just sitting on the sidelines watching the carnage.
Alexander Richardson
so either way, it's still irrelevant now
Luis Jones
Are you even trying?
1/10
Oliver Gutierrez
Not if it stops humanity from growing in numbers.
Adrian Evans
If the only people alive are the ones immune to it, you can assume their children will have a high likelihood to be immune as well, and so on until it's literally irrelevant
Tyler Cook
I don't think that's how a virus works
For example your parents probably had chickenpox which was caused by a virus, however despite being immune to it their children where not immune to chickenpox.
Tyler Harris
>except humans are weak and stupid without infrastructure Actually the reason we have all that infrastructure is because we were strong and smart enough to build it. You just mentioning human's vast technological achievements kind of undoes your point, smart guy.
Leo Taylor
This whole trilogy is so retarded. Saw the 2nd movie in theaters and couldnt understand what the fuck they were going for or who their audience was. In the age of anything goes modern blockbusters some really weird shit is getting approved.
Xavier Brooks
>what the fuck they were going for
A better version of Battle for the Planet of the Apes
Gavin Williams
The virus did not selectively choose those few humnans who are capable of building and maintaining our vast infrastructures.
The last movie made a point to show that the leaders were just average joes with no background in leading, and the smartest guy was basically on his own with a bunch of grunt labor. While 100s of humans were back in the settlement sitting on their hands and hoping it all blows over.
Ya, humans have done great shit, but as time as gone on, less and less percentages of the population are responsible for keeping it maintained and progressing further. It is not at all impossible for us to revert to the stone age if a virus wipes out 99.9 % of the population.
Ayden Price
It's the problem with modern blockbusters: they all try to do everything and fail at doing anything well. Instead of just focusing on a few elements and getting them right, they try to include everything that makes a "blockbuster" and hope the masses don't find something to nitpick. They don't even bother to try and make great films anymore, just films that won't be hated.
James Gutierrez
Dawn was a great Planet of the Apes film
Sebastian Cruz
>i didn't start this war
what the fuck? he absolutely did.
Liam Torres
So what's the timeline in this trilogy?
How the hell is Cesar still alive?
The average lifespan of a chimp is what, 20-30 years? Maybe the virus added on to that, but it still seems a little forced keeping him around for the entire destruction of humanity (in like 30 or so years? wtf?).
Robert Perry
It relied too much on idiotic characters to move the plot. I can't stand that shit.
Leo Nguyen
He's like 27
Kayden Myers
reminder that james franco killed humanity
Joseph Bailey
There was only one idiot. The rest worked with what they had.
Liam Rivera
>One study estimates that chimps live about 33 years for males, 37 years for females, in the wild,] while some captured chimps have reached an age of 70 years and older. Caesar is like, 20.
Ethan Lopez
So the apes aren't the turning point in this "war", the virus is. Movie should be called Rise of the Planet of the Virus.
Landon Reyes
I'm rooting for that Uncle Tom ape honestly.
Zachary Davis
I'm rooting for Steve Zahn
Ian Harris
Obviously. The apes wouldn't stand a chance if humanity wasn't killed off in such large numbers. But it's a planet of the apes origin story, so what else would make sense but a virus or other mass extinction event? Either way, it still gives most of the credit to the extinction device and not the apes. Even humanity is more responsible for their own demise than the apes. Our dependence on technology and other people maintaining infrastructures for us can lead to collapse in such a scenario.
Fair enough. 20 seems a bit young though. That would mean humanity is on the verge of extinction after approx 15 years. That's just retarded.
Eli Robinson
>You just mentioning human's vast technological achievements kind of undoes your point, smart guy. what kind of stupid reasoning is this? I love the ironic insult at the end too...too ironic for me.
now imagine this only globally and a million times worse and instead of experts you only have the janitor, tina from accounting, and joe who usually comes in drunk. Also expand it to more than just electricity. No medical response, no communications (no internet so that means you have to fap it the old analog way), no law enforcement...everything gets fucked and there's no way to fix it immediately or by the time the ape issue becomes unstoppable.
Elijah Ramirez
Is it ever explained how apes managed to organize themselves into one unified nation? Even negroes, the closest relative to humans, only have the capacity to efficiently run small gangs.
Angel Baker
Apes are smarter.
Jaxson James
>That would mean humanity is on the verge of extinction after approx 15 years. That's just retarded Well no given how long it takes for man to reproduce
Gavin Harris
Just saying we aren't as stoopid and weeek as what was implied. Of course all that infrastructure can be completely fucked like anything else in this world. But we were strong and smart enough to create and build it in the first place, without what was left of an already established infrastructure. And we could rebuild if needed. It just seems like people think humans are retarded without power when we conquered the animal kingdom and moved to the top of the food chain before the light bulb was even invented.
Nolan Foster
it's cute that you keep saying "we" and then compressing all achievements as if they happened all at once and not over centuries and that they're easily fixable. Again, a power outage killed a hundred or so people and that was just a power outage with experts working on it. Remove the experts, tack on a lethal virus, expand it to all other services we take for granted and you have to be a pants on head retard to say >we could rebuild if needed
Benjamin Moore
Come on. This is just a science fiction based on an old novel. There is no correlation between humans/other-apes and whites/other-races. R-right?