In light of recent events, some people have decided to try and make an actual movement to combat the Islamic terror that is currently sweeping the world.
We are still in our babysteps, but this could actually happen.
Without going full DEUS VULT, this is the best way to combat what is happening.
Don't see this becoming a thing as people won't commit much t b h.
YES FINALLY
PLEASE BE REAL AND PLEASE BE A SERIOUS MOVEMENT
BMW checking in
Get in here faggots
discord.gg
You don't need many people to commit at first, but with good organisation it can gain massive following.
Fuck your defeatism, devote yourself to it and have faith
Hitler started off with a group of 15
We're trying m8
Shouldn't it be /upf/?
I posted a bit about something like this after the nice happening, nice to see someone else has a similar idea. Needs a different name though, something like the United Western People's Alliance, "Progressive" makes me think of liberalism.
If any Sup Forumsentooman here had experience with app development an anonymous app could be set up to see how many crusaders were near you, shit like that.
If you're trying to promote a Christian movement as an anti-Islam movement you'll be condemned by all the main Christian denominations.
yes... no bully pls
It's not only for Westerners, but I do agree. The word "progressive" has been hijacked.
Would like to help any way i can. Current objectives?
Jesus was condemned by the powers in his own time
Fuck the establishment, we don't need them we need the people
Yes;_;
Not if you only attack Muslim extremists.
We can find them through social media easily, and whenever someone tries to condemn them, they'll see the victim had ties with IS or something and it will be justified even in their eyes.
No. That would just be used against us. Jihadis would utilize that. Just blend in. No reason for anything past that at the moment.
Progressive was only coined due to the fact that we need normie support.
It is more attractive as a movement if we aren't full 1488.
Join the discord group man. There we can discuss what our objectives should be.
>progressive
No. This name has leftist conotations.
I am genuinely interested in starting some movement here in the UK though if anyone else is legitimately serious about stuff like this?
How are you finding them? Take fellow anons on a step by step. Like a tutorial for finding isis online. We could do like daily lessons.
>jihadi arrives at meet
>gets shot full of holes 100 yards away
Current objective is to come up with bite sized bits to work on
Our grand goal is to restore White Christian Europe, but we need to flesh out the best ways of going about that.
A good starter would be joining up with your local anti-establishment conservative party and helping them campaign (ala UKIP or Front Nacional)
Not working on my phone. Is it just me?
Everyone is already against Islamic extremists. What are you actually trying to do here?
Pull some shit like Britain First by carrying crosses through Muslim areas?
The more terrorism there in Europe the bigger the swing to the right will be, the best thing any of us can do in all likelyhood is become political activists and join the anti-immigration parties in our respective countries. UKIP, FN, AfD, etc. Become part of a bigger, better funded and more organized already existing movement.
There's numerous twitter accounts of muslims supporting ISIS.
I'm sure it wouldn't take much to find out who these people are. Sup Forums seems to be great at finding out shit about people with very little to go on, ie. AIDS skrillex.
Here in the states with be a bit difficult. The only thing that resembles a right movement is the. Alt right which has no central leadership and is fractured due to varying levels of tolerance for degeneracy.
Please remove the 10 minute timer before allowing newcomers to talk. It's more annoying than anything.
Can you find any of them through pipl.com?
Couldn't say. I'm on my desktop. Try restarting the app.
This is a good goal, and one we're trying to organize. Getting involved with notable right wing organizations is key.
One of our main focuses, once we get an actual image, is Public Relations. We must have power of the people.
Done.
Central leadership won't be needed until a war comes. We need to focus on memetic warfare right now which works best when decentralized
Part of that could be local chapters that go out and do charitable activities while being openly redpill - and so you'd need a bit of an organization, but no more than a local boyscout chapter
Focus on countries with upcoming elections, UKIP is essentially irrelevant in Brit politics pending the outcome of BREXIT talks. Idk, come up with side projects for people in countries that won't have much to do in the coming years, no idea what, help your local Churches (preferably traditionalist ones) with trying to encourage people to convert?
Also not working on my phone.
That might have been the delay put in by the app for new members, it's been removed now
This is cool. What are your plans so far? I'm at work right now so I can't join the discord.
Well, we're in baby steps so far. Right now we are trying to lock down our main focus and from there, our first moves towards becoming a legitimate movement.
Is this real, bump for interest
Join the chat, no saracens allowed
Trying to get Discord working.
I can teach you guys about intelligence gathering. What if you gathered info on people who are suspected to be ISIS sympathizers and published it.
I work in cyber security so I can try my best to utilize this for the cause
If you can teach us how, we will do that in a heartbeat. My blood is up just from reading that
we need this in France
This would be amazing man.
If we could actually help prevent further attacks, we could be taken way more seriously as a movement that wants to restore peace.
Is this eurocentric or can Amerifriends make a difference/contribute as well?
I'll spend tonight gathering documents and I'll distribute a how to pretty soon.
Also making puppet accounts that aren't terrible in order to sway opinions or influence/subvert is important. I hate to sound all tinfoil but subversion is so easy with social media. I'd suggest making some appearing to be American or whatever kind of Muslims. Follow a ton of Muslims. Then, also following a bunch of lefties. Retweet and post stuff that is realistic but slowly Retweet or post things like a bunch of ISIS sympathy or calls for jihad or whatever. Slowly slip in the information. Soon at least one person will start noticing. This done a hundred or thousand fold starts to go somewhere.
There is one big issue I have with this whole thing. It's the same thing that plagues all projects from here. Sup Forums is toxic. If these get popular they will get banned. Channers will start sitting up the threads and harassing discord and 'trolling' there's a big graveyard of projects with potential on Sup Forums. So don't let people co-opt this movement or we could end up like Ben Garrison or something. Just be careful
Multinational.
We hope to establish subgroups, dedicated to each country so that we don't have a centralized power.
please become a thing
As far as I know, Americans can still do stuff. Really security, fellowship, propaganda, subversion and so on. Just realize this is a slow battle, and the Victor is the one who has the most conviction in their beliefs. We can rebuild people's minds and culture the same way it was torn down. We need to use similar tactics
maybe more of a anti terror, pro europa (anti islam covert) movement
I'm in.
just tell me what to do
I'm in
Join the discord guys.
Post a link, brother.
Discord
>FRESH OC LADS
dailymail.co.uk
WEW
PARIS, NICE, NORMANDY
FRANCE YES
Bump
Post 'em
Got a British one?
What we want to form is actually called the "Ecclesia Militans".
You may have a look here:
en.wikipedia.org
Which one you want to see?
make swiss one
Whichever. I made the TX one and just did this one. My first attempt at a Captain America type.
On my way to work but here are the textes we have so far, still need comments/modifications
Feel free to reposts the crosses you saved/made but please, try to move past the logo phase
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why the fuck are you defacing the cross by putting a big fucking star through it. put the star behind cross you jew fuck
WORKING DRAFT
A CHARTER FOR AN UNNAMED ORGANIZATION
Recognizing that Islam, as a phenomena, is not monolithic and includes many traditions some of which are in contradiction with one another we [UNNAMED] define the following terms:
(1) Koranist Islam: the set of sentences contained in the Koran
(2) Hadithist Islam: Koranist Islam plus a set of sentences contained in a Hadith collection
(3) Islamic law (Sharia): this set of the Shariah which would be considered as a body of law if it was applied in a western nation
(4) Political Islam: Koranist Islam plus Hadithist Islam plus Islamic law
(5) Muslim: an individual having sincerely pronounced the Shahada
(6) Islamic supremacism, Islam: synonymous with Political Islam
(7) Islamic community (Ummah): the set of Muslims (as per (5))
(8) Islamic sect: a particular doctrine or philosophy inspired by Islam
(9) Mass of an Islamic sect: its number of adherent
(10) Dhimmis: non-muslims apologists to Islam
(11) Mushrikun: westernized Muslims
Since it is our sincere belief that "Islam", as understood by a majority of Muslims and Islamic authorities (Sheik, Mufti, Ayatollah, Imam, etc.), is an inherently political phenomena, we will consider "Islam", "Islamic supremacism"' and "political Islam" to be synonymous. Some use the term "Islamism".
Furthermore, we recognize that the terms defined above are at best approximations. We do not claim the list to be an exhaustive representation of all relevant terms.
We furthermore define:
(12) Islamophobe: a non Muslim who believes that either Islam or part of Islam to be either deleterious or inferior to a competing ideological system
(13) Xenophobia: the rejection or dislike of that which is perceived to be foreign
(14) Xenophilia: the adoption or appreciation of that which is perceived to be foreign
>2minutesinpaintnet.png
Also
>people not making customized crosses, according to their region
en.wikipedia.org
Quit your bitching.
I made the Arizona and New Zealand one.
I technocally also made the Finland, Sweden and Switzerland ones but they're just recolor jobs so they don't really count for much.
2. FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM
We [UNNAMED] recognize the following state of affair to be our "raison d'être":
(1) There exists a body of law called the Sharia. The Sharia is the divine law of Islam. The existence of such a body of law cannot be disputed.
(2) Laws are destined to be employed by a government.
(3) Therefore, Islam, as a doctrine, presupposes the existence of a government designed to apply its laws.
(4) A government applying laws believed to be of divine origins is a theocracy.
(5) Therefore, Islam is a theocracy.
(6) If an individual believe in the validity of the concept of Islamic law, then he must necessarily believe these to be, in principle, preferable to any alternative system of governance on earth, no matter the kind. Indeed, if Islamic law is to be considered the expression of the divine will here on earth, then one cannot place any other system of law above it, for then he would have committed an act of blasphemy or, in Islam, "shirk", by placing himself above God in judgement.
(7) Therefore every person who believe in Islamic law in a state which does not apply it is a seditious traitor.
This later point is [UNNAMED]'s "raison d'être". The fundamental problem of Islam is its inclusion of a body of law as a part of its religion.
No mention is here made of either terrorism or of religious violence. This omission is deliberate. This phenomena are, all things considered, somewhat marginal and must be interpreted in the context of political Islam. The use of force is only one of its component.
Apostate piece of shit
3. VALUES
3.1 NON VIOLENCE
[ORGANIZATION] preemptively condemns any and all acts of violence carried out in its name or in relation to it.
We formally reject all forms of violence as a mode of action and dedicate ourselves to the fulfillment of our objectives through pacific means.
3.2 Individualism
[ORGANIZATION] believe each individual to be the legitimate owner of its body and, as such, to have rights inherent to said ownership, namely:
(1) freedom of conscience
(2) freedom of speech
(3) freedom to peaceful assembly
(4) the equality of rights between all individuals belonging to the same polity
These are all logical consequences of the fact that people have a right to dispose of their own property as they see fit in so far as they do not affect the property of others without their consent.
We do not considers feelings or beliefs to be property.
it should be using the papal cross. someone make swiss version that uses the papal cross. Catholicism is the only true religion and all others are affronts to God and their followers should be crucified
>united progressive front
>progressive
Is this like antifa? A voilent group working to spread homsexuality, race mixing, multiculturalism, LGBT issues? Literally a SJW tier group? Because it sounds like it.
3.3 ISLAMOPHOBIA
[TODO: but as per definition (12). We need to appropriate the term. Term appropriation and inversion of values are always good strategy.]
[3.4 APOLITICISM]
[[ORGANIZATION] does not officially support any particular policy, be it foreign or domestic, nor any political organizations, though its member may.]
4. OBJECTIVES
4.1 PRIMARY OBJECTIVE
A ideological movement is only socially significant in so far as it has a certain mass (def. 9). [ORGANIZATION] thus considers its prime objective to be, through pacific means, the elimination of any supremacist Islamic sect's mass.
This objective is considered valid and operative regardless of the place or the extend of the territory under consideration. [ie. The objective is valid no matter how you cut up any territory. It's valid for the US as a whole and for any state in particular or even for a town or the whole of the earth.]
4.2 SECONDARY OBJECTIVE
The reduction of the rate of growth of Islamic supremacist sects is a necessary condition to the fulfillment of the primary objective. This is the secondary objective, from which it follow that all acts of conversion to Islam is a defeat, all act of apostasy a victory.
Note: There is, in the objectives mentioned above, a deliberate conflation between the abandonment of Islamic supremacism and the renunciation of the Shahada proper. This is because Koranist Islam is a necessary condition to Hadithist Islam which is a necessary condition for Islamic law. Therefore, the destruction of Koranist Islam entails the destruction of Islamic law, even though the converse is not true. There is therefore no reason for us to limit our action to an attack on Islamic law as a concept. Since the Koran serves as a foundation for the Islamic supremacist enterprise, its loss of credibility would necessarily entail the fulfillment of the primary objective. There is thus no reason to limit our attack.
(cont. of the note) This is what distinguishes [ORGANIZATION] from reformist movements. The later seek to increase the mass of the Koranist sect of Islam, while we do not care to protect any variation on the
5. METHODOLOGY
5.1 DESCRIPTIVISM [as opposed to "essentialism"]
Recognizing that the Islamic community is not monolithic, [ORGANIZATION] rejects the notion of an "authentic" Islam and any approach based off such a concept. What "authentic Islam" truly is is completely irrelevant to us.
Rather, we adopt what we call a descriptivist approach, which seeks to recognize the various forms Islam can take.
When considering a particular instance of Islam -- what has been termed an Islamic sect -- the question of its "authenticity" will never be considered. We will only care to correctly characterize it (describe it) as its followers characterize it and, if possible, quantify its mass.
5.2 TRANSPARENCY
Truth need not darkness to thrive, but it is the natural habitat of falsehood. Furthermore time and rational discourse favors truth and tends to eliminate error. Therefore, any individual or groups of individuals who believe to possess some truth ought to favor transparency over secrecy, since they do not need the later while the former is their natural ally.
Similarly, those who believe to do good do not need to hide behind closed doors, as the goodness of what they do ought not to be ground for shame.
Thus any organization which purport to do good and rely on truth yet insist on secrecy has already admitted, through actions if not words, that there is something defective about what they preach.
Did you write this yourself, frog? It's very thorough. I don't know anything about charters, but it sounds very official.
>Progressive
dropped just by reading that fucking word
Clean up your mess damn it
A Canadian did it, last thread I believe.
Arkansas chapter reporting. Been waiting something like this.
We should encourage fellow redneckbeards to get together and get in fighting shape. A fitness club based on Christian morals.
From beard to feared!
Deus Vult.
We genuinely intend to progress as a society user.
Progressive has been hijacked by the left to mean something bad, but we do not mean it as such.
>the pope
>Catholic
Top kek
You should frame this as defending Christian nations and communities from external threats, instead of specifically targeting Islam.
Look mom, im posting in a Jew honeypot thread!!
On a side note, this shit remains me of The Life of Brian Peoples Front of Judea.
Would post the vid clip, but fuck you OP
>Progressive has been hijacked by the left to mean something bad, but we do not mean it as such.
You realise it doesn't matter what YOU think about it, but what most of the people think about it.
>defending Christian nations and communities from external threats
Which the media will interpret as targeting Islam anyway.
Because what other external threats are there?
We're just cutting out the middleman.
What do y'all think?
Inverted peace sign as a hand sign or salute.
Two fingers for Deus
V shape for Vult
Upside down and backwards as the complete opposite or inversion of a peace sign. War.
For the US? I like it. Still want a more polished version of pic related though.
If I had the skill I'd get on that. I might have an idea. Do you have a shield with only the flag?
Also gotta love the Patriotically gaudy route.
Most of who? The normies we will be trying to attract?
You idiots need to stop developing racialist paganism and mixing it with Christianity.
I believe in the theory that african people could really be doomed but you're just being silly now.
Someone saved my shit ms paint :D
looks good, looks similair to the Holy Cross of the Principality of Antioch
Try it with a licht blue background, and the red into orange
Plain black cross here
Last one, sorry I'm late
(cont.) [ORGANIZATION] is firmly committed to the idea that it seeks both truth and goodness, and therefore pledge to be as transparent as is humanly possible, and if truth and goodness be not enough to secure victory, if it is ever felt that lies and deceptions are necessary evils in the furtherance of our goals, then let us lose for we will have deserved it.
5.2.1 TRANSPARENCY IN CONTENT
"Never regard something as doing you good if it makes you betray a trust or lose your sense of shame or makes you show hatred, suspicion, ill-will or hypocrisy or a desire for things best done behind closed doors." Marcus-Aurelius
No document, no official communication, no plan, no point of doctrine, must be kept hidden from the public at large. We firmly believe that secrecy can only serve error and falsehood, and that openness and transparency are the best guarantors of the veracity and morality of our opinions and actions.
From this it follows that anything which may make us feel inclined to secrecy is to be regarded with suspicion, brought out before all members, analyzed and possibly rejected.
What causes doubt in ourselves must either be weakly understood by us, because we do not have good ground to believe in it, in which case we ought not to pretend to believe in it, or must be weak in and of itself, in which case it must be rejected.
Doubt is thus indicative of a problem relating to a certain position. We consider transparency to be the best remedy against the incorporation of weak positions within our organization.
Finally, there is no doubt that an organization such as ours would be under a great deal of scrutiny and that, therefore, there would be no hope of keeping a secret for very long and that any attempt to do so would only invite scandals.
Spain
You don't get the difference? They will and we will always say they are wrong, that any group targeting christians will be targeted by us. You should never frame yourself as an attacker but as a defender. People do not like attackers.