Is it me or is the concept for Civil War 2 really flimsy? I mean, it's not even Minority Report tier...

Is it me or is the concept for Civil War 2 really flimsy? I mean, it's not even Minority Report tier. Ulysses doesn't predict every crime on Earth, he has visions of big catastrophes at best. It's barely any different from the hundreds of times the heroes have traveled from the future to prevent bad things form happening (like it's the plot of at least 10 X-Men stories or the damn climax of Age of Ultron).

What's the big deal? Why are the heroes even fighting? What was wrong about how the heroes went to fight off Thanos before he arrived to Earth? If Thanos was killing War-Machine and She-Hulk in space he was going to do it on Earth either way. It's fucking Thanos.

It's Marvel*, I don't have to explain shit.

*Substitute for DC when necessary

You'd think someone like Spider-Man who constantly has to deal with Madame Web giving bad future predictions would warn these people about blindly following his future telling reports.

They openly admitted in that interview a while ago that major summer crossover events are usually cooked up more than a year in advance, but CWII was thrown together in a few months so they could have MCU synergy.

Presumably the big split is #3, when a hero is predicted to cause a big catastrophe and another hero kills them.

Current speculation is She-Hulk kills Hulk.

>conflict isn't fully established until the 3rd (THIRD) issue

Decompression, everyone!

the concept for most marvel events in the past 10 years has been flimsy

maybe except for secret invasion

Well, Iron Man declares war on the Inhumans in #2, so there's that.

This plot is bad for 2 main reasons

The super power of Ulysses isnt special, there have been precognitive mutants, the most famous was probably Destiny, Mystique´s "friend" that Rogue considered her mother, and they were all c-d list characters, no one thought "woa, lets have a civil war about this precognitive chick"
and there have been already x-men stories about people fighting over the diaries of Destiny with predictions about the future.
And there was a Morlock called Qwerty who was a retarded who could see the future as a mutant, and when M day cured her, she wrote all the possible futures she saw non stop until she died, and a cult was created around her.

The other problem is precognitives and time travelers and alternate timelien characters make it clear the future is always changing and not written in stone, because it depends on many variables.

You think that's bad? Sides don't get made until the 4th issue. We're not getting to the actual "war" part of it until the 5th issue.

Behold, Bendis. God of Decompression.

What do you expect from something they came up with 3 months ago as a shameless movie tie-in

Honestly it's more like they slapped the entire event together so fast that the typical event build up didn't occur.

I mean Secret Wars, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, most of marvel's past events, etc all had shit that led up to them. Big writer runs, writers of different characters collaborating and on the same page, minis, etc.
CW2 just has the event itself and a few "the road of CW2" even though those barely have anything to do with the event.

If Ewing's last Ultimates issue is to be trusted, Ulysses might be used to avoid bad futures like Apocalypse, Ultron, DoFP, etc.

>the future is always changing and not written in stone, because it depends on many variables
Carol literally knows. Galactus just showed her how time works in the Marvel Universe and made it explicit. She wants this guy because she wants to guide Marvel into one of the like 10% of possible futures that aren't dystopian hellscapes.

Figure out how to stop the event that would led to one of the bad ends, cut it off via precognition, then move onto the next one. Better than doing nothing and just hoping your universe isn't the one that ends up awful once its all through.

So it's more like it resulted in marvel doing event build up IN the event instead of being able to build up to it naturally over the course of a year or so.

Hence the BIG THING happening in #3 and sides being picked happening in #5

>3 months
user please, it was 5 months ago. They still needed time to make the actual comics.

Not only is the premise flawed, but the entire release schedule is fucked up.

Okay, so FCBD released the death of She-Hulk and War Machine. Keep in mind, some of us work on Saturdays so there was no way for us to get this issue.
Two weeks later, we get issue 0 that just gives us more development on She-Hulk and War Machine which is redundant because we know they are going to die, and showing how Ulysses got caccooned is also pointless page killing nonsense.
And then issue 1 will take place before where they fight a huge threat and then after with FCBD's pages taking place off issue?

This is ABSOLUTELY RETARDED! Any newcomer or idiot comic reader (let's admit it, if they are Squirrel Girl fans) would get very confused going from the FCBD issue to the issue 0 to issue 1.

This event is so poorly thought out and only Marvel thinks it's a good idea. I can only imagine what a mess the trade will be.

>taking place off issue?
Most likely reprinted with the actual comic, like they did for Infinity.

Except the artist for issue one ain't Copiel.

So it'll be a bit jarring, but it's not like having a back-up story by a different artist is some new thing.

Whole thing might just be a vision Ulysses has in the first issue.

After seeing how awful the Spider-Verse trade is laid out, don't expect any convenience.

Frankly, if it manages to at least be better than the first Civil War it'll still be a net gain.

Maybe the final issue won't be delayed for 3+ months