Why are blue collar workers looked down upon in anglo countries?

Why are blue collar workers looked down upon in anglo countries?

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they are not?

they're seen as men among men here

Maybe Australia is an exception

From documentaries etc, I can say that the UK has a massive class divide which is reaching extremely unhealthy extends.

Nepotism-fueled faggots are no strangers to discrimination, but in the UK the whole thing is taken to the extremes. At least in the US the working class is physically isolated from the rich so they don't have to deal with them.

It's usually their personality. They have an insular subculture. Can be pretty annoying 50%+ of the time

this tbqh
even rich Aussies are spiritual bogans

Australia, NZ and Canada have the same respect for it i guess, especially Australia since our blue collars earn a lot. It is mainly the UK which has always had a much bigger, distinct class divide.

do farmers count as blue collar because they're rich as fuck and basically run this whole country

Perhaps in cities where all the fags live but thats because they know we hate fags and don't take kindly to their attitude.

High Schools tell you if you don't get a college degree you're a failure.

How come blue collar workers are associated being poor? I'm an electrician and earn pretty well and there's always work. Won't have to worry getting unemployed

Manual laborers are lower class poor people. No one dreams of going to trade school to become a manual laborer, it's what you do when you were too stupid to get a scholarship to study a real career in college.

We're not as far gone as the US, but that's a low bar. Unions still matter here.

I guess anything physical counts. Here for example dock workers and people working at chemical plants earn almost as much as doctors

As you can see, Amerimutts have a much diffferent attitude

They aren’t. Anglos respect anybody who has a sense of work ethic, blue collar or white collar who don’t rely on government gibs.

NEETs and welfare babies are the only ones we look down on.

Americans aren't anglo

>too stupid to get a scholarship to study a real career in college.
Financial security > degree.
Of course at later age you can start studying if you're getting fed up. For example me as an electrician I already do similar tasks as many engineer with a college degree. It wouldn't be a big step up

The junkie fears the working man;
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Plenty of rich people are literal bogans
There are plenty of absolutely loaded tradies, mining helps that as well

>Financial security > degree.
Here, there's no such thing as financial security without a degree.

Pretty much this

jelly desu
>tfw low iq pleb

Why is a degree so important there? I would assume that a degree doesn't land you a guaranteed jobs. And kids these days study a lot of useless degrees

Yeah you sell to the Chinese for bulk prices akin to the rape of Africa. You people literally do nothing but sell shit on your land like the Saudis

This. I am a tradesman so obviously I don't look down on blue collar work, but the people themselves are mostly very hard to respect. Most of them are very small-minded, they smoke cigarettes, they drink a lot, they eat fast food all of the time, they are boorish, bigoted, they don't read books or follow current events etc. I like my job, but I have nothing in common with the people I work with.

the wealthy run the country and turn everything to shit
don't ask logical questions

yes there is

>there's no such thing as financial security without a degree.

Jews probably. I dropped out of university and moved to bumfuck nowhere and now I'm a logger and I make more than people I went to school with and I'm happy as a clam going deep into the woods for 15 hours a day.

A degree doesn't guarantee you a job, but not having a degree is an instant disqualification from any sort of respectable job that pays above the poverty level.

Moving from being a plumber to being a uni student to being military, I found even people in the military are generally smarter than tradesmen.

How much? Did you need experience, safety certifications/training etc?

Yeah that's the main issue. Also there's no infrastructure to get people into blue collar jobs here. In high school, if you're not going to college, they basically just try to get you out the door and don't provide any alternative paths.

Realistically speaking, the sort of blue collar tradie jobs at least in Australia, have success far more skewed toward nepotism than getting a foothold into a job with a Bachelor's degree.
People here generally get into the trade because of family, friends, etc. and a large amount of them are really only able to get their foot in the door if they were lucky to be born into a relatively stable household and growing up around the people who would eventually employ them.

Two rather difference points of entry to above entry level work and the first steps into a career.

>that pays above the poverty level.
What do you mean as above poverty level. For example I already earn more than the median wage for a high school teacher is. And there's even more less paying jobs than high school teachers

Normalfags like you are nothing but subhuman working drones.

You'll probably die a good 30 years younger than those working a comfortable "office job", though. There are always tradeoffs for lower entry requirement positions.

>ITT: STUPID FUCKING AMERIGOBLINS IGNORE THE BIG ELEPHANT-GOBLIN IN THE ROOM

BLUE COLLAR JOBS DON'T PAY SHIT AND ARE LOOKED DOWN ON BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKEN OVER AND DESTROYED BY WETBACKS!!!!!!

You fucking idiots, there was nothing wrong with working a trade until the brown horde flooded in and destroyed the labor-market

Worthless NEET

It means what it sounds like. Manual laborers get paid barely enough money to sustain a rat-like, subhuman subsistence lifestyle where missing a single paycheck sends you into a death spiral. You'll never own a house or be able to save more than a couple hundred dollars.

lads I don't want to go to college why does everyone expect me to go to college and be some bigshot worker solving the world problems
no one ever bothered to teach me how to even change a fucking lightbulb because I've always been expected to work in some office doing important shit
lads I just want to skip out on college and be a fisherman or electrician but the mindset is fixed into my mind that that'd make me a failure worse than the disappointment of a NEET
American culture is shit

>Did you need experience, safety certifications/training etc?
I talked to a guy I know who knows I am a hard worker then I moved across the country. I'll have about $65,000 earned by the end of the year BEFORE taxes and logging seasons means we have about a month off in the fall and 2-3 months off in the spring because it's too wet so I'll get a nice tax return in addition to having much time off work.

don't you guys need plumbers, electricians, builders etc? I guess with so many poor people its way more saturated
its not like its nationalised like Norway, most of the money is set to multinationals overseas anyway or rich people that inherited it
even then its a smaller part of the gdp than manufacturing, which we hardy even do

I went to university before getting into the trades, and the people there are even more insufferable than tradesmen, but they are coming from the opposite end of the spectrum. Most of them are very self-important and think they are a lot smarter than what they actually are. Most tradesmen may be half-wit rednecks, but they have no illusions about being anything more than that.

I guess I just don't really like people in general.

Fuck off societal leech

plus my job is basically off-roading pic related all day so I'm pretty fucking happy with how things turned out for myself

Well maybe that's the case in the US. Here you can live comfortable middle class life.

That's a nice job, especially with the time off. Do you think people will hire foreigners in these parts of Canada? I've heard that in rural Alberta they will give anyone with an accent quite a hard time.

We have a quite a large logging industry as well. And for sure easier to move since its an EU country

The problem is that I don't speak Finnish and nobody will hire you if you can't speak at least a decent amount of their language. Finding some guy that's willing to work in english is a hit or miss, and I bet there's a lot more missing than hitting. Even if the supervisor is ok, you can't expect the same from all the crew.

Pretty much everyone can speak understandable english
>you can't expect the same from all the crew.
I believe there's no "crew" it's very independent work. You'll be working alone in one of these
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In theory nobody minds. But you won't find a single job advertised in english anyway. Not to mention that the Fins hate Greeks more than the average immigrant, or at least that's what the media tell me.

I don't know we don't have that many immigrants from Greece anyway. It's just really hard to immigrate to Canada unless you have some niche skill. That ofc doesn't apply for refugees

I didn't like people in either the trades or in uni, I didn't make a single friend in my 4 years between them. The air force is nice though, I have no problem getting along with people.

heh, maybe I should get a tan and a praying mat while it's still on.

Take your piece of paper and weld this submarine together for me would ya

>don't you guys need plumbers, electricians, builders etc?

Yes. When the markets are tanking and people with finance degrees are losing their jobs everyone still needs to have running water, electricity, transportation, etc. That stuff comes first even in bad economic times. I would argue that an experienced service plumber has much more financial security than almost any degree holder, except for doctors and nurses.

That's right and those kind of jobs arent getting replaced by robots anytime soon

Education is seen as a status symbol in countries where people pay tuition fees for post-secondary education

That figures. In most of europe there's no tuition fees or they're very low

>Most of them are very small-minded, they smoke cigarettes, they drink a lot, they eat fast food all of the time, they are boorish, bigoted, they don't read books or follow current events

Sounds like normal people who simply want to work, earn a decent pay and not get involved with crap that don't really involve them.

>We're not as far gone as the US, but that's a low bar. Unions still matter here.
If you are referring to income inequality/workers rights than sure, but class divide? Get a grip, the UK is easily the 'class based' 1st world country by a landslide. You don't see it, because you've grown up in it. As a burger who did a semester abroad, it was fucking nuts. Kids in my class literally wouldn't even want to talk to people who had too "posh" of a voice and vice versa.

nobody wants to do these jobs anymore, since they make more than half of what an grad is making
1,5k net a month for blue collar work is too low, thats why universities are full af
i shoud have done trade, i wasted 3 years already, feels bad

>1,5k net a month for blue collar work is too low
I thought they pay more in Germany. I get around 2.7k net

>Anglo countries
>Anglo
Why do you only ever see this on this shit board?

this guy is retardedplumbers, electricians and other manual laborers make good money especially when they have own business.
I know this Bengali engineer who got fed up with his boss , quit and became a plumber. He now makes 3 times the money he used to make.

The US has less social mobility than the UK. In fact the States has one of the worst rates in the OECD.

dont know but from what i heard people in their 20s dont get more than 2k net on average when they doing trade
taxes are fucked here, and you constantly get the impression if you dont study, you are a failure
>2,7k net
what are you doing? did you attend university?

not true , we are slightly better in social mobility

Some months pays even more if it's a big contract
I'm an electrician. Just went to a vocational school no uni degrees. I just have a lot of experience, but sure when I started out 7 years ago I got around 1.9k net. Worked my way up
and a few times changed company

Fuck this is my life right now

>but sure when I started out 7 years ago I got around 1.9k net
thats still exceptional as a starter in trade after education in germany afaik
consider yourself to be lucky living in finland
do people rather prefer going study or trade?

>consider yourself to be lucky living in finland
I don't have any experiences living in other countries so can't say. Good and bad sides like anywhere
>do people rather prefer going study or trade?
Around 60/40. Getting a degree doesn't give you much higher salary. I've been thinking of getting at least bachelor's since for me it would take around 2 years and the employer would pay it

>Getting a degree doesn't give you much higher salary.
THAT much higher. I earn about as much as the median wage for engineers. Ofc doctors and lawyers earn insane amount

what is your job?

Then why would you want to play their game. Instead of pissing away rent at least pay off a trailer or houseboat to give the freedom you deserve to go wherever you like while the boss is enslaved to his riches (which equal his debt)

hows that even possible, you are being grown up believing usa is the first world country par excellence, but with every day passing you start to believe the opposite

Obviously fixing diesel engines in Alaska makes a lot more than shoveling shit in some yard in Detroit, should the government forcefully change that?

because he is wrong, only people who work in retail and restaurants are really having it hard . Alot of blue collar people do pretty well

They're respected here. Most canadians have a sense of dignity of labour. The ones that get looked down upon are service jobs like cashier or fast food.

Does someone like a cashier still get paid well in canada? Assuming they aren't some kid in their first job and are actually contributing to running the business which might be pulling in 20 grand a shift if it's busy?

Cook, unskilled labor. What ever I can get. Trying to save up to stop being homeless and go to school or something

Almost always minimum wage, which is like 11/hr (8.56 USD). And if you do delivery or wait tables you might get payed less than minimum wage and have to make do with tips.

lol no.. I don't know how they get by desu

kek guessed it hereDid you study cooking?

Its also because our popular culture is dominated by urbanites, women and effeminate soyboys, while working class is largely uneducated white and minority males. There is a large component of racial and gender hatred in the current environment of identity politics.

>BUT I THOUGHT CANADA WAS LE EVIL SOCIALISTS WTF

t. Seamus O'Donnelly

The Anglosphere is a widely used Geopolitical term. "Anglo countries' is just a variation of it.

No, I didn't do school bc I wasn't comfortable with having a bunch of debt. Now I don't even care, just want to be able to live like a real person and not work undignified jobs for retards in order to barely get by. I like cooking better than warehouse or factory work but it generally pays worse.

There is a difference between just owning a farm and actually being the one of does the farming. If they're just doing administrative things and having people do manual work for them they are white collar.

This. David Cameron literally got shit on for eating a hot dog with a fork and knife like the posh faggot he is.
Though I hear its even worse since nobility still fucking matters in the UK.