Why the hell are Vivienne's animations so popular? They're so amateurish and have no substance to them...

Why the hell are Vivienne's animations so popular? They're so amateurish and have no substance to them. It's just shitty looking furries to pop music. How can anyone look at her work and think this is good animation?

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Big werewolf tits and pop songs.
We already know where this thread is going.

Because it's good enough to be entertaining to the masses, who care less about quality than they do entertainment.

i feel the same way, her animation feels so lifeless to me even for a cartoon. didn't she graduate from SVA last year? jesus

Even Bleedman's art was nice to look at despite the fan fic schlock. Viv's art is just a gigantic mess and an eyesore.

because there's so little competition

Because furries are possibly the WORST judges of animation. If it has an anthro in it and something moving then its A+ 100% greatest thing ever.

For 2D animation? Because I can find like, ten new amazing 2D videos on a daily basis. Going through Vimeo alone can get you lost for days:
vimeo.com/categories/animation

Unless you meant 2D furry animation. In which case, I'm sure I can scour around and find a dozen furry animators in a short amount of time who are better than her. Fuck, Zootopia alone should be enough to convince people her Zoophobia comic is shit.

As we've said like a million times before, her animation is amateurish and her comic would be better if it actually had a protagonist instead of a giant entourage.

It's one of the few cases where just being furry pandering garbage would be an improvement.

You're going to have to explain why it's "amateurish" considering there are plenty of worse animations out there, even in professional fields.

>Designs are way to fucking busy.
>Poor control of forms and silhouette.
>No clue how to utilize arcs properly.
>Lines strobe all over the damn place.

No idea, OP.

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It's amateurish for someone who graduated from one of the top animation schools in the country.

Yes, just because something features anthros, it automatically makes it furry material

I spend a lot of time on /trash/ because I'm a horrible person and there's a subset of furfags who get incredibly upset when people accept anthro but not furry even though they are the 'same thing'.

Is there any real difference?

Because it has waifus.

People get a boner for the technicolor wolves.

Well fuck you Sup Forums I liked that video. I liked it much that it actually made like a Kesha song.
youtube.com/watch?v=-PKNuZovuSw

Hi, Viv.

Would you rather have this?

>They're so amateurish
I don't think you know what amateurish means.

At least it's not putrid colored pop furry shit. I can actually get something out of watching Gumball or Steven. Viv's shit is just overly sweetened jawbreakers.

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Hey man, I just wanna fuck the furry, not BE the furry.

I liked her Die Young video...

Let's see you do better

I love how tweens and/or Viv herself come out of the woodwork every time there's a thread about Zoophobia.

Like holy shit, really? This tired old fallacy?

The classic "It can't be bad if you can't do better" meme.

Not a meme or fallacy, just capitalism

>Spends several years on comic.
>Still hasn't even set up a central conflict or developed a protagonist with overarching, relatable character flaws.
>Still hasn't introduced the "fan favorite" character and won't any time soon.

Shit's hilarious, but she's getting the last laugh since she makes mad cash.

>Qualifying people's ability to criticize by their skill at said craft is a matter of capitalism
You what

Looks better than the outsourced garbage on TV nowadays.

>Shit's hilarious
The 85-paged thread about how bad her comic is on the BadWebComics forum that's been going on for two years is hilarious. Though she is still getting the last laugh with her $2k Patreon.

For those who want to waste time:
badwebcomicswikiforum.yuku.com/topic/129/Zoophobia?page=1

THIS

Confirmed for either Viv or a butthurt superfan.
Nobody else cares about shit like that.

Not as funny as her abysmal comic, sadly.

Die Young was okay for a short little fan animation because it just looked like she was having fun with one of her favorite songs, not trying to do something particularly good. Then it exploded because of teenagers who thought it was the second coming of furry jesus. There's a whole subsection of them that devote themselves to making shitty ms paint animations of warrior cats and sparkle dog wolf packs. I sometimes do a little voice work and I come across six billion 'casting calls' for these things. It blows my mind, but some of them have thousands and thousands of views. So it's not surprising to me that there are so many people singing her praises and inflating her ego. I was hoping she was going to improve, some of her work in progress things look pretty good, but after seeing how rushed and janky Silhouette was I'm now convinced she's just going to keep pumping out mediocre animations set to pop music to keep her fan base secured.

Links to porn of Timber are the only reason any of us are here.

Please provide.

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>Big werewolf tits
Definitely what I'm here for

Thanks for saving my doodle

>2016 AD
>not having a transformation fetish

>Calling something that clean a doodle
It hurts. Getting good is hard.

Draw more for us, user.

Furries have no standards whatsoever. 99% of furry art is terrible.

I love statistics like this.

Because it's the exact opposite of the kind of animation people are used to seeing now. A lot of people often think that if something is animated on the 1s, it just looks good but even if you animate on the 1s/2s/3s, things need to have proper weight, timing, anticipation, foreshortening, overlapping action. Stuff needs to flow naturally. I could go on about this for a while but yeah Viv just needs to work on being less tacky, she's already half of the way there.

i have the same problems she does and need to work on the same stuff

Don't you just love drawing with a pen?

it's hard mode, but once you get the hang of it you're making confident strokes and next thing you know you're absolutely absurd

I'll see what I can do. Anything you'd like to see?

My man

Do better.

Because
>Furry/Sparkledog audience
>Isn't "popular character doing edgy things" parody like most animations on youtube
>Uses pop music that's popular

A furry is a member of the furry fandom while anthropomorphic characters aren't? I mean, shit, anthro character take all shapes and forms, not just animals, there's fucking cars and shit too. Plus in animation that's been around since the early 1900s.

>They're so amateurish
"amateur" does not equal "bad"
"professional" does not equal "good"

someone post hourglass expansion of this please.

I didn't realize she has a gold tooth.

She didn't graduate from CalArts

I need this too

how do you draw without having any kind of underlying skeletal structure?

>Would you rather have this?

John K, how long will it take for Cans without labels to be fully complete?

I dunno. Clarence does nothing but things kids normally do. Hell his whole show is about kids doing kid things. There's only one or two surreal episodes that deviate from that.

Normies and casuals have no idea what good animation is and just like flashy and colorful things that ease their stimulation-addled brain a bit.

>Undertale
at least replace it with

>Bright
>Colorful
>Fluid
>Eyecatching character designs
>Pop song
>Internet animation

The only reason you're even going out of your way to bring this up is because this animation is actually good enough to not be counted awful, but not "perfect" enough for you to find it flawless. There's BILLIONS of animations online that are worse animated AND Just as popular if not more so. But you're not going to make a thread about those because it doesn't show off your tastes as an entertainment consumer by criticizing something that actually looks pretty good on the surface. Sure you can deconstruct it and point out all the flaws, but fundementally, as just a piece of animation on the internet made by someone who just wanted to make a music video of her characters? It's pretty good.I hope she gets better and fixes her mistakes, but I'm not gonna act like it's shitty just because it has flaws.

user nobody on Sup Forums knows jack shit about animation.
The reason people shitpost about this furry character is to bring negative attention to it which always winds up getting porn of it made.

That's literally all these threads ever are.
False flagging false anger false aggression to get attention and hopefully the eyes of drawfags.

Reminder: Sup Forums thinks RWBY is a good cartoon. Their opinion means nothing.

>mfw I read this in lsp's voice

>Gumball
>CalArts
Did you even try?

But those billions of animations don't get $2k on patreon and don't have 250k followers. The key phrase "why is it popular" is right there, do you need your hand held coming into these threads?

This is literally conspiracy levels of thread speculation.

what? i have bones

at least I think I do

They're happy.

About 95% of animations on youtube feature dark moods and insider meta-humor, or are just inane blogging. Something happy is a great thing these days.

Good point, actually.

>Something happy is a great thing these days
I know you said YouTube animation, but a lot of TV animation is pretty happy/comfy these days. Steven Universe, Wander Over Yonder, We Bare Bears, Harvey Beaks. Yeah sure, they might have a scary moment here and there, but in general, they're pretty light hearted shows compared to what we used to have with Billy & Mandy, Animaniacs, etc. It's not exactly like we're on a shortage of feel-good cartoons.

why is undertale on there?

Because Sans is a talking kid created by a man from CalArts, like everybody knows.

Or maybe the creator of the picture saw that he had only four pictures of actual cartoon characters to illustrate his words, knew that it was not that much, and decided to add Sans and Gumball to convince himself he was right.

what?

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Its interesting how often Sup Forums will praise animation thats dont poorly if its done in a suitably geeky/waifu pandering fashion.

Add an anthro though and its garbage.

Good deal or great deal, Sup Forums?

>complaining about animation quality

Nigger, have you SEEN what popular cartoons look like?

It always seems like the shittiest artists charge the most.

my nigger, you got great taste.

>Comparing cartoons animated overseas on a budget and schedule through a pipeline production to someone who animates for fun and can take their time to make it good and still does a shit job.

Nothing in particular, but these two seem to
Shit, dunno, draw the girl-to-werewolf transformation.

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Literally the whole video is this character bending her arms like this and shoving her face against everyone else's because LOL look how wacky and zany and COOL she is, she's just so effortlessly quirky!! xD

Same reason why you like to fap to Judy from zootopia.

Prominent ass to body ratio?

>Those prices

I could get a Genzoman commission, a Modeseven commission, and a pack of smokes for the cost of her full body commission.

Could have posted the newer one, you know.

That doesn't have titswolf, so nobody would care.

And because multiple ass/cleavage shots, let's be real.

Is... Is her hand backwards?

Judy is adorable, charismatic, and an admirable bunny who developed and matured through a really fun journey in an interesting, unique world with some of the best CG studios have to offer right now.

Jayjay is a deviantart-tier sparkledog whose only character trait is "she like to PARTAAYYY!!!1!1!".

That's like comparing your highschool sweetheart to some gaudy hooker.

>That reveal of her front teeth
too cute

Ssssh, it's fine, it was just for fun.

>the pawprint on her top
whose hand was that?

Her own.
Wouldn't you cop a feel if you became an 11-foot tall werewolf?

There's a lot of animation but the animation isn't like.. good, if you know what I mean. They went with quantity over quality, a lot fof the frames look good as stills but look completely wrong in motion. They have the talent but they've nothing to guide it, I suppose.

Also furries will eat up anything that's designed to appeal to them even remotely, so that's the popularity right there. Normals can share the work too because the animation is.. well, it's there. Like I said it's Not Good but laypeople aren't a great judge of that.

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>literally
>conspiracy
>speculation
That's a terrifically roundabout way to say "I don't agree with you"

So rather than this just being some simple hate thread, you think it's someone disguising hate to get drawfags to look at the thread and draw OP porn of Viv's werewolf characters?

If you truly believe that, then obviously OP failed because there's been like, two pieces of fanart here and I'm pretty sure they were already done ages ago.

The fuck is consistency