MCU Quicksilver is superior to Fox Quicksilver if only because his very existence isn't a massive plothole...

MCU Quicksilver is superior to Fox Quicksilver if only because his very existence isn't a massive plothole. Foxsilver is the superhero movie equivalent of the eagles from LotR.

He isn't a "plot hole". He's a deus ex machina

That's not what that word means.

>In a parallel Universe, MCU has Peter, and Wanda dies/Fox has Scarlet Witch.

Thank you! I keep saying this. QS in days of future past could have solved the entire film by himself. It's even made clear that we works for money. Why not pay him to find mystique?

They never should've killed off QS.

Isnt MCU quicksilver also more accurate to his comic speed, i just saw Apocalypse and he pulled some serious speedforce shit in the school

It created an interesting dynamic for Clint and Wanda, plus there wasn't much else to be done with him anyway.

Fox Quicksilver is more accurate to Ultimate Quicksilver power levels

Heh, I wonder how Pietro would have fared in Wanda's place during Civil War.

>yfw Pietro/Vision romance

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More or less this. Pietro's death added to Wanda's character. Although I cant help but wish Quicksilver got more depth and didnt die (especially in such a bullshit way). At least AoU Quicksilver wasn't so broken of a character

he's hotter too

I will say this, I'm glad Marvel movies have handled big important character deaths in a way that makes them look heroic (Quicksilver protecting Clint and civilians, Coulson standing up to Loki) rather than have the death be some kind of "shock" blindside like what happens too often in comics.

What I like is his use/presentation of super speed
Sure Fox super slowing people is great, but get's boring real fast.
I like actually seeing a speedster going really fast saving people or fighting.

Are you retarded

not him but technically he didn't instantly/magically solve the conflict of the movie like a deus ex machina does

He just woulda run away.
Didn't see that comink

Maybe if you had read the fucking books you'll know that the fire got their attention and went to see what was happening.

"God in the machine" refers to old greek plays in which the divine being would descend and magically solve everything, which was usually done with a pulley system and other stage devices. The term basically means a scenario in which a plot device is used to fix a issue out of nowhere with little consequence or effort, In short yes hes right you idiot

Not him, but I think the issue here is context of use. Quicksilver is a Deus Ex Machina with regards to breaking Magneto out of prison, but it's a Plot Hole that this Deus Ex Machina isn't used to solve all the other problems in the film.

Yeah, whatever. I haven't watched Apocalypse but his scene in DoFP is one of the most fun scenes in the history of cape movies.

#PietroLives when? Coulson and his show is getting tiresome t-b-h
>tfw Two Quicksilvers show never

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And also eagles were little fucking bitches who didn't give a shit about what was happening among what they considered lesser races.

Gandalf asks them to help and they tell him to fuck off

The point is that the eagles are immensely OP and have the potential to end the conflict immediately, but they are conveniently written out of it for no reason, just like Quicksilver.

Just came out of Apocalypse, and thats sorta true
Eagles never needed saving. QS is still a plot device though
>Some serious shit happened!
>Well heres a scene of QS saving everyone in slowmo to some nice beats

The only eagle plothole is that the possibility isn't brought up at the Council of Elrond. There are plenty of good reasons flying on them would be retarded.

It was always Gandalf plan to use the Eagles. They didnt want to enter the war at first, dunno why, but when the fellowship is formed, at least in the book, Gandalf is trying to contact them so they can fly to Mordor.
When Balrog grips his ass, he says "fly, you fools!"

Okay, but they ARE written out is the thing. There is a reason given why the Eagles can't be used to auto-win. No such reason is given for not using Quicksilver.

You need a higher tier of bait than that to get me you rascal.

I don't know whose ass I want to pound more, Kick-Ass has the body but Foxsilver is cuter

After seeing a few Flash episodes, I have to say that I really like how Marvel handles showing the whole super speed thing. Fox and DC seem to put a lot of focus showing how the characters sees everything around, instead of showing how we'd see this character. Marvel instead put us as the normal ones, so all we see is QS being this smudge of speed. And it works great when he stops, because he's played so well - especially when he's saving people and at one point stops just to catch a fucking breath - such a simple thing, and yet - shows that he's super fast, but still has limits. Actually, since Hawkeye is my favourite MCU character, I liked QS almost as much - don't know who'd I chose to keep alive if that was my decision.

Just a reminder that in the original script of DofP QS was replaced with Juggernaut, QS was added last second?

Except in Apocalypse he tries to beat the villains and fails miserably when Apocalypse adapts to the super speed.

He's as broken as Wanda in Civil War.

Juggernaut would have made for a shit-tier scene

>he's saving people and at one point stops just to catch a fucking breath - such a simple thing, and yet - shows that he's super fast, but still has limits.
Same here. My favorite thing about MCU Quicksilver is how they handled his powers.

I'm not so sure
>we see Erik sitting in his prison
>building shakes
>he and the guards are like "wtf!?"
>Building shakes again
>you, go check it out!
>guard goes for the door
>door smashes inward
>OH SHIT ITS THE JUGGERNAUT
>he just runs by
>Erik, confused watches him run by
>Logan and Chuck show up shortly after
>That's your brother, Chuck?
>Brother In-Law

You could also use slow mo to show the destruction porn

Not much destruction porn to be shown, just a few walls caving in, honestly it would be best if Jugs wasn't given any kind of expository shots, you just see him in the rubble, pass by, and covered in more rubble, he doesn't even need to speak.

Yeah, MCU Quicksilver was flawed, Foxsilver is too perfect and overpowered.

I think him being dead over the course of several films will make it that much more impactful for when Wanda snaps and brings him back to life in IW. I'm still convinced that's what's going to happen.

While I prefer MCU's weaknesses in character, Foxsilver's scenes are the only interesting parts of the recent X-Men movies. Even though he's overpowered, it makes for entertaining visuals.

Wow, fuck, this is an old bait post.

It blows my mind that people say Cucksilver is better than Quickslav because, not just that he is better but when their reasoning is, the Fox version is faster. That's exactly why he's worse.

Quicksilver was added just because Marvel was going to use the twins in Age of Ultron. Fox was pissed they couldn't keep them from Marvel because they were also Avengers, even though Fox had no plans on using them until Marvel wanted to. So Fox was compelled to also have their own version, and have their Quicksilver be a biggerer and fasterer version.

I remember Bryan Singer tweeted the announcement with "Before he was an Avenger, Quicksilver was an X-Men" or something. He later deleted that tweet presumably for legal reasons.

>but they are conveniently written out of it for no reason
What do you mean no reason? Why isn't it an acceptable reasons to you?

Even disregarding all the reasons for why the eagles didn't want to help, flying towards Mordor with the ring would have them be found out by Sauron immediately which would have had them hunted down and slain by the Ringwraiths.

The ring is like a huge beacon and they needed to hide from the sight of Sauron to ever have any chance of getting it to Mordor on their own terms.