Why do people hate science so much???

Why do people hate science so much???

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What people hate is scientists who entrench themselves and their publications in unintuitive, redefined, field-specific terminology, and then act all hoighty when the public they're addressing either misinterprets their concepts or calls them out for being deliberately misleading. See Krauss' "A Universe from Nothing".

t. Atheist

science is not a replacement or an alternative to religion, I guess

yeah. science does not create the myth :3

I guess you do not know science enough ^^

Science=Truth
Truth is hard to swallow, people prefer comfy false thoughts than true hard to believe ones.

oh so are you a scientist :3

What is yoru field desu?

Because it's faggots like you that have turned it into a meme

Pretty much this senpai

Sup Forums hate science because it proves Sweden is the whitest country on the planet.

Nobody hates science you filthy fucking fedora.

You're giving yourself brain damage with all that tipping there, buddy.

Homeophatic medicine

In Science we trust!
¿Hey amigo, que tal va la situacion de tu pais?

I think science is really cool

Statistics also prove it's the cuckest

Because it is not real until it is

Because science is something that involves time to properly understand. Most people go on about loving science then get bored and complain about anything scientific.
T. Scientist.

I guess that is pretty popular in Mexico

> poverty

It's depressing.

I love science. What i hate is scientist's who think their political intervention is superior.

science is racist
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Because it's been turned into a religion and I hate religion

pretty much this
try a little less condescending douche next time you feel like whipping out "the science is settled"

>poverty
w-what does it mean???
Am I poor?

Proves you are the biggest cuckolds ever .

No, that's actually false. See pic-related.

That title belongs to you. See

I am pretty sure you are not.

No. I am poor desu....

I wanted to eat kebab. but it was too expensive for lunch ;_;

Because it requires effort.

Failing to do the effort requires to admit that you can't do it, or that you are too lazy to do it. Much easier to just believe in pseudoscience, religion, or browse Sup Forums all day long.

Since I'm living in the most dangerous city of my state I can't really tell if we are getting better or not, yesterday some taxi driver got killed near my grandma house, but pretty much every taxidriver is a informant for the narco so he probably got killed by another cartel, in general I can say I feel way safer than in 2014 but things are still pretty Grimm, how are things treating you over there, mon ami?

The right and the religious right especially will eternally deny that they have a rampant anti-science and to a degree anti-intellectual problem in their ranks, which they not only do, but is the biggest problem facing our side of things in america

Most people who share my right-leaning positions are outrageously stupid. They drink from a "common sense" koolaid far less logically steeped than young leftists.

If I meet another conservative who opens by calling the atheists stupid I instantly know he can be disregarded, doubly so if he starts with the cosmological argument or other related retardation the hicks swap around to jerk themselves off

I'm an Atheist and Richard Dawkins is a moron.

People dont hate science they hate your epistemology

Dislikes muslims, feminists, and race denialists. What's not to like?
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Attack every week, since 14 July, but pretty much good. ¿En que estado vives, tio? ¿Crees que el narcotrafico desaparecera en un futuro?

Because it's hard, there's hardly any jobs in it and they pay about as much as a store manager at Walmart. So may as well work at Walmart.

I stopped paying attention to Dawkins when I realized he's so anti-creationist that he refuses to give any significant thought to sim theory.

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well, thanks to science I can chat with someone (who? somebody too poor for kebab) from Japan

too bad like the whole Sup Forums the whole chit chat is literally about nothing

how to bring some order and peace to the world while keeping people relatively content? but more important why trust other people at all?

how do I know """science""" is not another trick played on me?

Conservatives and liberals are both anti-science, just in different ways. The right hate evolution and climate science, while the left believe that men and women are the same and that race is a social construct. They're both a bunch of dumb niggers.

Because science disproves things that people are stupid enough to believe in.
For the right, it's creationism.
For the left, it's biological equality.

well, let me be brutally honest

science is all about coherence, details, persistence, long-run, often it does not have appeal to normies

politics is all about fireworks, short-run, immediate effects, deception, for people with short attention span, aimed at normies, I mean general population, not some basement dwellers

They don't, it's just science is starting to turn into these weird cult like community, where certain people are worshipped as being infallible. Like black space guy and hot wheels.

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Science is fine, it's the people that turn it into some cool hip fad and everyone wants to be a cool scientist.

All of those fucking liberals adding George Takai to their fucking Facebook think they're smart but are retarded Pokemon go playing permavirgins.

It's is actually, my country men are pretty much pants in head retards

As a scientist myself I look down onto non-STEM fags.

STEM is something you have to learn at a university (very good trade) by a professor (specialist).

Any other discipline/field can be autodidactically learned.

This is why the correlation of religion and higher education is very clear.

You need to have an observant and logical mind in the first place to accept the scientific method as the only truth (which ofcourse is subject to paradigm-shifts if new evidence is found).

Everyone worships science now, but no one wants to do science shit. You would believe whatever those faggots told you.

Science is a belief system just like religion. You have no idea how deep the occultists go. They feed you bits of science to make you think you are on some higher level than muslims. You aren't but at least science doesn't tell you to blow yourself up in the name of a pedophile.

Science is a useful, manipulative belief system that contributes to our reality matrix.

>*tips tinfoil hat*

There's nothing wrong with science, it's people who try to use them and famous science related personalities for their personal crusades. You can develop a true interest in physics without the need of turning into a "I fucking love science" tier retard

Veracruz and no, gringolandia keeps demanding drugs and the cartels suply, so we are pretty much fucked forever, I'm hoping for the government to reach an agreement to go back to status quo like in the 90s but it's all wishful thinking, shame about your country, went there 10 years ago, pretty calm place.

Most people don't really understand the basis of scientific research which is a combination of reading the history of a topic and trial and error. I think most people can't handle the idea of working in an area where complete failure is something you just accept and deal with constantly.
From experience most people care about the cool flashy buzzwords so they can say them to sound smart but very completely turned off the moment details are brought up.

>Mathematics
>Autodidactical

I'm not quite sure.

>Religion and higher correlation

In STEM? I'm surprised; I assumed most people in STEM fields would lean more conservatively.

If you look at it objectively, you will see how science and religion are very similar. Instead of church it's the university. Instead of prayer in a mosque, it's research in a lab.

Keep an open mind.

this

science sometimes has some traits of religion

- sacred books no one really reads or understands,
- infallible, wierd gurus,
- taking things for granted because muh sacred book said so or muh leader whom I trust said so (have you checked like ALL facts by an experiment? and proved every detail?)
- old, twisted notation justified only by muh tradiition and sacred names of gurus from the past
- taking axioms for granted and what else is an axiom than a fact pulled out of my ass becuse muh feelings told me to do so?
- muh meetings called "seminars" (the same day, the same hour to keep muh tradition) to worship idols, muh retreats called workshops and shit

in every country there is some stratification

This sounds insane, and it partially is, but I think there is some truth to it. Look at climate change. I believe climate change is real, like many other people. However, I've met people who think climate change is a worse threat than anything else in the world right now, and they almost treat saving the earth like a religion. They seem to be in some trance, where when some idiot says, "Isis exists because of global warming" they actually believe it.

Damn straight, Mohamad here knows it.

>Science is a belief system just like religion.

>post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy
Come on, Svearbro, just because you can't defend your nation doesn't mean you get to throw logic out the window.

this is sad realization

but when they try to make science like business everything gets unbearable

and they do try

They are similar only in the sense that they both attempt to explain reality.

However the difference is important: Religion says it knows everything and to question it is wrong.

Science seeks to PROVE what it knows and to question it is not wrong.

This.

There are these people that try to talk about Chemistry that can't even name a molecule just by looking at the skeletal formula.

Not it isn't inherently, but that is what anti-clerical movements have made it in order to divorce religion and religious people from modern advancements in science in the eyes of the general public.

Science is unfortunately a business there isn't much that can be done about that. If I wanna be able to do work it needs to be sellable to somebody or needs to have a pitch to sell to them so you can get funding for research.

Krauss, Dawkins and Dennet specifically obfuscate the demarcation of Science by blurring the line between Methodological Naturalism and Metaphysical Naturalism.

To them, whatever logical ends and premises that exist within Naturalism are imbued to Science itself, while within empiricism this works because its a seemingly clear overlay, however outside of our experience and even past what we can infer from data, it simply falls apart.

Krauss admits this when he was on a panel in Sweden with real philosophers, after being pushed against the wall, he admits that Science/Naturalism cannot be used outside of Empericism, while completely ignoring how that contradicts his entire premise for saying things like philosophy is dead because science.

I do not recall my priest telling me how the engine works et all

On the other hand life of really many human beings from scientific point of view is literally worthless.

I believe, for example, McDonald could make the whole "restaurant" fully automatic.

You don't understand voltorb-senpai, the government open last year a building solely for Homeophatic doctors and there's a popular career in Homeophatic medicine in one of the most important college of the capital, I live in hell voltorb-senpai.

Completely wrong, but not surprising coming from fedoras who don't understand what Science is and its limits. There is no "Truth" or "Facts" in science, not in any absolute sense. That's not how it works, i suggest you use google and try again.

Dawkins get owned all the time

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> it is neither possible nor desirable to interfere with literally everything

> placebo works too

The fact you are going to derive a statement against atheism as a statement against science tells us you're the idiot and anti-intellectual in this scenario…
They taken no only the prerogative but the pleasure of telling people what to think. This guy gets it.

Most of the "scientists" are really just authors who've become to old and outdated to do any major work.
Notice how most if not all of these "figureheads" only champion the official doctrines of the scientific community.
None of them wow us or seek to challenge the current understanding.
Science isn't a democracy but it sure operates like one, if you disagree with the prevailing opinion you are simply ousted, it unscientific and unethical in every way.

Einstein would not survive in the world of modern American science, he would have remained a patent stamp boy.

Modern science is shit, everyone knows it, the spirit of discovery and adventure is dead, atheists only defend it because it's their only orthodoxy that isn't wafer thin and thus why they constantly put it at odds with religion because when religion claims science, which it has just as much right to as anyone else, atheism crumbles unimaginably quickly among the unthinking populace.
The defenders of science are economic opportunists looking for a quick sale or 15 minutes of fame (God delusion, the moral landscape, a universe from nothing) and more often than not they are pious charlatans more so than any enclave of pederastic priests or Bible Belt baptists.

Modern science is rotten to the core, it's figure heads should be purged and their credentials removed. Anyone seeking to go into the field ought first study philosophy and ethics then they get a free ride to M.I.T.

Religion has truth and good to it too remember?

Science does nothing to guide morality.

They are just different belief systems of manipulation for different levels of gullibility and skepticism.

This doesn't mean you should reject science, similar to how you should not reject all christian morality. Just know you are being manipulated, that is all.

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>prove
>not realizing that reality is based on perception and we can't even explain how particles exist at 2 places at once when you look close enough
>not realizing that everything is just frequencies, wavelengths and energy

What you must learn (similar to communism vs capitalism being 2 opposites to the same jew coin) is that truth vs lie are 2 sides to the same occultist coin.

The rabbit hole goes deeper than I have time to explain here so have a meme that will help you understand while laughing.

Holographic Disclosure series on youtube is bullshit but it gets some things correct

There is a conservative leaning I think initially, but if you're at a liberal university you will see liberals in it too, although there are religious liberals, just not as many.

The professors and post docs I've met that are religious are almost always conservative and although they are pretty unashamed about what they believe, when it comes to Chemistry it's not entirely relevant to teaching it so they keep to themselves.

Also I haven't taken too many courses where there theory about chemical evolution had any implications that changed how Chemistry is actually done, then again I'm not sure who even investigates those irreligious claims anymore. Is it even useful to set out to experiment when there's so much work on organometallics to do?

Truth and lie are 2 sides to the same manipulative coin. All a truth is is a sufficient amount of lies that we all percieve and agree upon.

>Science does nothing to guide morality.

Science is for explaining the natural world, not for telling people how to live.

Religion at its core wants to control people, for good or ill, science does not.

I am so glad to hear that from both from you

I guess there is no certainty in one or in the other. You need faith at the end and faith works miracles.

Science is hard to understand. The general population doesn't like things which are hard to understand.

One must learn the duality of reality to comprehend that there is no right/wrong, only a bigger whole that has both right and wrong as it's components.

Think of the yin/yang circle (pretty much just a really dank ancient meme). That concept applies to all reality.

Because modern science is corrupted..Most is nothing more than theories, without any facts to back it up

Science does want to control people, it's just better at convincing people it doesn't while sacrificing the ability to get the masses passionate about it. Think of it like a video game where you get to choose the belief system of your civilization, each has advantages/disadvantages, but they are all belief systems of vsrying levels/depths of control/manipulation.

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science is too broad a term. what people usually object to is materialism and everything that it suggests.

It tells them things they don't want to hear.

It's kinda disappointing to know no Japanese people post here and it's only weeaboos changing their proxy.

It pains me to see religious people convinced scientists are delusional while scientists think religious people are delusional. You're both just different and participating in different belief systems with different positives and negatives. Science never touches on spirituality(something bigger than oneself) as far as I know.

Aren't most of the laws of science only true under certain conditions?

materialism as an art of manipulating matter is nothing wrong but materialism as a doctrine denying anything spiritual is pretty dangerous

even if consciousness/soul is a deception caused by complexity, it is brutal to tell people spirituality is unimportant

at the end most objects from mathematics literally do not exists (ever seen a point, two infinite parallel lines and other more advanced shit?)

fuck you for this bait thread

nobody hates science (dawkins is not the fucking poster-boy of science btw)- it's the fact that science is so politicized that any retard can quote a "scientific" study to support his retard ideas. people reject responsibilty for their views and beliefs by hiding behind "science"

for anyone who's interested, here's a very easy to read, short book on how science and data is constantly abused

horace.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/How-to-Lie-With-Statistics-1954-Huff.pdf

>Completely wrong, but not surprising coming from fedoras who don't understand what Science is and its limits. There is no "Truth" or "Facts" in science, not in any absolute sense. That's not how it works, i suggest you use google and try again.

Whether you consider science able to produce truths depends solely on whether or not you agree with empiricism, maybe you don't, and you think there's no such thing as real truth, that's fine.
But by disagreeing with the people you linked you seem to be implying that there is another, better source of 'truth' out there, but rationalism has it's limits too, and many of it's arguments are completely reductive as well.

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Science!=truth, you mong.

Science is a tool, nothing more, nothing less. It is fallible, subject to change, and is not a substitute for other non-science disciplines.

Because it has been increasingly used to push a political agenda and has become increasingly impartial. I can't tell you how many poorly-conducted studies are touted as fact to push an agenda.

Look at the vaccine debate. Most "independent" studies are actually funded by companies that sell vaccines. They always show very favorable results. However, actual independent studies on vaccines show vaccines are much less effective than what the manufacturer claims.

An increasing problem science has been having is the lack of repeatability in studies. Your first leap of faith is assuming the study didn't fudge the results and/or did the study correctly.

This is already politics.

But the original problem is: why some people believe a company would cause harm to them just to earn more money? How come they came to that conclusion or get subverted to do so?

nobody hates science but sensible people usually hate fedora autism.

you dont need it to be absolute for it to be true

>A Universe from Nothing

Just saw it,mostly by the ending though. It's crazy and i mean it in a positive way.

We're just delusional and lost within pettiest of schemes and happenings, forgetting that our time is very limited, even a snap of a finger is longer than our lives alone. And we still don't realize the point, chasing illusion upon illusion like blind sheep we are.

You are the universe, and it's yours and yours alone