Would it be worth moving to eastern Europe from Canada if I'm a musician and want to be able to live cheaply instead of...

Would it be worth moving to eastern Europe from Canada if I'm a musician and want to be able to live cheaply instead of being a wages lave for the cultural marxist machine?

Any bros have suggestions regarding this? Are crime rates much higher? Is it better to live poor but happy doing what you want and not working over 40 hours a week, than to live in luxury but be a slave to those destroying the western world?

a fucking leaf

>giving up on your nation
die

plz leaf

>Would it be worth moving to eastern Europe from Canada


stay in your fucking mud, leaf

>im a musician
You mean you're unemployable trash? Hahaha fucking pathetic. Too stupid for STEM are we? You sjould have killed yourself long ago.

Fucking retard

I'm European though. I want to go home where I belong, not slaving for the trudeau marxist tyranny.

If only it worked that way.

I have a compsci bachelor's degree actually.

I want to do what I love instead of waste my life away working for a company I don't care about.

BTFO
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>Would it be worth moving to eastern Europe from Canada

not anymore.
I did it from 1997 to 2010, it was really good.
Now, they all wageslaves like in the West.

in 20 mins, AMA.

>eastern Europe
>musician

Really bad combination, maybe if you are classical musician who can work for some theatre or orchestra.

I have hitch hiked across Latvia, Belarus, Poland and Slovakia. I would suggest just moving to the countryside in Atlantic Canada because Eastern Europeans are dangerously stupid and their food is terrible. The retards let their rabid dogs roam the streets freely. And nowadays there are many places which are contaminated with nuclear waste. Dont bother.

Burger engaged to a Serbian here. FWIW, the average wage in Serbia is $300 euro / month. Think about that. An apartment is somewhere around 3/400/month in Belgrade, but you could live substantially cheaper in a village or something. You could buy your own small farm for $6000. IMO this is much better than a unibomber style shack in the woods in the US.

belgrade Restaurant meal for 2 at a decent place: around $20-25. Cab fare, around $5 to get around most places, airport is substantially more due to distance. I think I paid $8/seat to go to the opera.

Just to give you some idea. Also, English is required in school, so most people speak it, and many fluently. They're not 'murricans, though, so keep in mind there's no small talk with strangers and smiliing at someone can provoke a fight. It's a difficult adjustment, at least for me. Hope that helps.

>fleeing a country instead of trying to do anything to fix it

That's sandnigger talk. Stay here and help us fix this country instead of going down to the levels of syrian rapefugee mentality

>not cutting your losses if you're in a cucked country

my fiancee cries about all the wild dogs everywhere. It is a real problem.

I can imagine the stupidness part. Seeing how reckless people behave compared to in the west is shocking as hell. I'm amazed any survive into old age.
dunno if this applies, but I was also shocked to hear how much everybody missed communism days and talked about how great they were.

I've been to most of the countries you mentioned. You're retarded. Like... really, really retarded.

>Would it be worth moving to eastern Europe from Canada
that would be a retard idea

do the math, what will happen in europe if the shit hit the fan?

every country on this continent will suffer

at least in canada or usa you have "room for maneuver", lot of no-man's land

o'paddy

If you have an independent source of income, maybe.

If you're a musician, you're much better off staying in Canada because there is no gibs in Eastern Euro.

This. If by musician OP means he already has a passive source of income, he can live in eastern euro on a few hundred euros a month.

NO
fuck off and stay in your cuck country
>musician
wouldn't last a week on your own
not even money for a yogurt and moldy piece of bread

also
>he thinks he can pull off his NEET dream in EE
the whole mentality of EE is working hard to endure
and thats it
we endure like we endured the huns,the mongols,the turks and etc

how much do gypsies make when they play music in restaurants?

also, I thought you gave them money to leave you alone, but it works the other way around there
kek

Take a vacation there first.

Also, you're a fucking musician, so that means you're dependent on the disposable income of the average person. Which is pretty fucking low in Eastern Europe. You're more likely to end up as a metro station operator.

the gypsies who play music in restuaurants are always sapien version who have normal families whitout incest and living in shanty towns
>give you money to leave you alone
maybe Belgrade Cucks i dont really know
here we just beat them like Bulgarians and Romanians do

so they're the best of the best gypsies?

It doesn't sound nice to say, but I understand now why only....unpleasant measures can be used with gypsies. I feel like the only reason they've survived this long is because the state won't let you remove them.

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>shocked to hear how much everybody missed communism days and talked about how great they were.

it was a much easier time, not so much pressure to make money.
other things important, time with friends / family, sitting in the bar hanging out.

Now its just money money money

>is because the state won't let you remove them.

uncle 1488 tries, didnt get them all.

yugoslavia was way diffreant than rest of the eastern bloc
mainly it not being a part of the eastern bloc but more like the border between the iron curtin

>>it was a much easier time, not so much pressure to make money.
>other things important, time with friends / family, sitting in the bar hanging out.

The way they talk about it, free apartment, guaranteed job that you didn't have to work hard at apparently, free uni, sounds bretty gud, desu. So what if they didn't have 10 kinds of frozen dinners in the jew supermarket.

All I ever heard growing up was how awful it was to live in E. Europe.

Never understood north americans boner for Eastern Europe on Sup Forums

Canada is a big country just go in a non cucked area

If western europe fall, eastern europe gonna suffer

Yugoslavia was amazing while it lasted. Everything's shit now...

>eastern europe gonna suffer
they always suffer, their whole life is based on suffering

Well visiting Europe for a longer period could be fun, you could make lifelong friends, see if your music catches on and probably live very cheap in eastern europe but it is also well worth spending time in the west, north and south also.

But i always saw Canada as one of the great nations nations in the world today in terms of living conditions, your average lifespan matches europe so Canada is a great nation to live in.

>All I ever heard growing up was how awful it was to live in E. Europe.

Burger propaganda.
It was all a lie, those people were alright.
Much better than the wetbacks, mudslimes and niggers invading the white countries now.

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why is it that ever EEboo and commieboos first thing when hit whit immigration and degeneracy is to flee?

Literally every Serbian I've met said that. They said it was too good to be true, and couldn't last.

The more I thought about it, though, that's actually what a government run by the people should do. I think the 4 trillion spent on wars for Israel would have bought a lot of people houses. The depth of how badly we've been fucked here is staggering.

>>Much better than the wetbacks, mudslimes and niggers invading the white countries now.
There's a reason why I looked to E. Europe. For now, it's the least-cucked place around. I'd move in a second if I could make any money there.

Serb-bro, come visit me in L.A. for a week. Maybe you've already enjoyed vibrant diversity we have here, but to live in it and be ruled by obnoxious jews, have pornography on billboards, jew values promoted everywhere, niggers and mexicans ready to chimp out on you, it's constant tension and stress. The idea of living in a place with civilized white people is very appealing. Belgrade looks like 1960's America to me...that quality of life is only possible here if you're rich, or somehow able to make a living in a small town.

i guess thats true...
im still sad to see that 1950s america go away
its one of my favorite times from movies and history i read up about :c

>Literally every Serbian I've met said that. They said it was too good to be true, and couldn't last.

Nothing good ever does. My parents grew up happy and carefree. Me? Even if I successfully finish my university, the odds of me getting a decent job are abysmal. Or any job at all for that matter. If you've got a westerner's income, you can live like a king here though.

>>I want to do what I love instead of waste my life away working for a company I don't care about.
why not work and gig until your music career takes off? I mean you will only play at night anyway. Like where do you think you can just "be" a musician and make a living?

What the fuck are you aiming for? I can't understand. You're in Canada, why the fuck would you move to Eastern Europe? Because of the white meme?

a NEET like you wouldnt last a day there

>For now, it's the least-cucked place around.

For now, it is.
But even there the jewmarxist machine is in full swing.
One big thing that has changed:
The people used to know full well the news they were fed was complete bullshit.
It was us dummies in the West who fell for it, the bad commies, the warlike slavs, all the lies.

But now, the EE start to believe their news,
they lost the cynicism.
And the news is all the same Brussels BS,
socialism is good, islam is a religion of peace, all the feces.

It's not good.

>he thinks people watch news or tv
>he thinks people in the yugos dont use tvs only for old yugo films
please

I take your meaning but when the streets of even the last small town bastions of your society are being filled with traitor scum the urge to jump ship is hard to resist
if they take away my ability to laugh in the face of every muslim I see, I really don't know what I'll do

>smiliing at someone can provoke a fight
why

in the eye of a thug
why would some random fag smile at me for no reason?

I have literally never heard of that happening to anyone ever. The only scenario in which such a thing sounds plausible is if you are smiling at someone who is really really dunk. In my experience, strangers tend to go out of their way to be helpful as long as you ask politely and don't act/look like a hooligan.

>>>smiliing at someone can provoke a fight
>why
I've been told it's interpreted as mocking someone if a stranger smiles at you, just a different culture.
I was actually just typing this. It's more of a drunk/bar/hooligan thing. When people realized I was a burger, they frequently went out of their way to be nice.
Just my tiny experience in Belgrade, I'm no expert, and I hear outside of there people are more overtly friendly. That said, I was warned by enough E.E. not to smile at strangers that it has to have some truth to it.

why would you ever smile at strangers?
for what purpose

I usually smile. I'm a happy person. If I looked at someone I didn't know, I would probably be smiling at them.

Cuk

>why would you ever smile at strangers?
>for what purpose
Serb-bro isn't kidding, user, smiling at strangers really doesn't compute to them.

It's just what burgers do, user. It's a cultural thing. If you *didn't* smile at a person upon meeting them for the first time, whether it's a cashier at a store or your co-worker, it would be interpreted as a sign of dislike or something.

I talked to more than one Serbian who lived in the US who couldn't stand it, like people smiling at them truly drove them crazy. They thought it was insincere and phony.

>Serbians are so unhappy, seeing other people being happy makes them even unhappier
that's rough. I really like Serbian posters. i wish i could give a Serbian a hug

The problem is a lot of people do insincere smiles.

This one guy at work would give Grinch tier phony smiles it was disgusting

the excesive smiling is just like ameribro said
its a american thing
no where else around the world to people do this

people in my city and the other cities I have lived in do this
sometimes people I don't know even try to high five me in the streets
although I don't live in any places where there are too many shitskins or liberals, luckily
people in Toronto are pretty grouchy too

To be fair, it is insincere and phony. You smile out of obligation and not because something made you smile. I can't say it really bothers me personally but I can see how some people may be upset by it. Not the act of smiling itself, but because you are obligated to act like you feel a certain way when you really don't.

not everyone is smiling. just the happy ones

I've thought about this. Not everybody is good at smiling, you have to think something happy so it's a genuine smile and not forced. It's like you're smiling because you *anticipate* enjoying meeting the other person or whatever.

So...you could argue it's insincere, but I think that would be ignoring the nuance of the thing....but fuck me dead, regardless, it really smooths social interactions and makes them more enjoyable, so is that so bad? Lots of pacific cultures will tell you yes to anything you ask of them and never mean it, but they said yes so you save face. Is that lying? It's a more complex question than it appears, IMO.

>they said yes so you save face. Is that lying?
yes? That's not a complex question at all. You've probably based it on an incorrect thought process
lying = wrong
saving face for others = good
lying to save face for others =/= wrong
>"Honesty” and “Frankness” is not an excuse to offend or hurt someone. “Frank” and Honest” is no excuse for cruelty. Those who say God forbids untruthfulness need to go back and read that Commandment.
>Honest sadism is still sadism.
I mean, I disagree with this wholeheartedly because I think being hurt by unpleasant truths is for children, but I think this is the kind of thing you were getting at.

well, I didn't want to write a paper on this, but it gets into the question of what does "yes" mean to the person saying it. It isn't universal. In some cultures, it means yes, I will do that if I feel like it that day and I am able to, or it means yes to be agreeable and to save face, but it's understood that it means maybe you will, maybe you won't.

it just gets really complex,nuanced, whatever you want to say, and whether the communication is betweeen people of the same culture or if it's cross cultural, where the two people have different asssumptions of what a "yes" means.

I'm no expert, but there you go.

Speaking for myself, there's no reason to be blunt and direct unless someone's life is in danger. Otherwise, you can say what you mean while being kind, but it's most definitely an art, IMO.