Okay Sup Forums...

Okay Sup Forums, why is it that Japan is facing the same issues as the west regarding birth rates despite not going through the same societal changes such as feminism, social justice and of course Jewish involvement?

This honestly makes me believe that the state the west is in is just the natural conclusion of continued development. Japan was the first non-European nation to reach similar development levels of the west, it was the first nation that could go toe-to-toe with European powers in the Russo-Japanese war etc. I don't think it's a coincidence that Japan faces similar problems as us.

To me it seems like this problem is brought about when countries become too developed for their own good and people become too comfortable and decadent.

Because the areas with ideal (well-paying jobs, etc.) measures of improvement are massively overcrowded and places with more room have been left to decay.

That is, Japan overcentralized and is now greying rapidly, which will continue until populations get more elbow room in the cities. It's not a matter of comfort and decadence, it's a matter of DISCOMFORT instead- an already small country packing itself into an even smaller space in the name of prosperity. The lower birth rate is the backlash.

mouse utopia experiment

Lack of nationalism. The Japs have nothing to be proud of. They're a cucked country with the world's greatest power ever to existence shitting on them in the greatest war ever to exist and then planting military based on their nation so soldiers can rape their women weekly while their constitution forces them to have no military and rely on an outside power to protect them.

Intelligent (i.e. Western nations + Japan) don't breed children when they have no nationalism. Only third world shit holes have high breed rates with nothing to be proud of.

If Trump wins you'll see birth rates skyrocket. If Japan rewrites its constitution so they can build a real military and the U.S. military bases are removed from its island you'll see their birthrates skyrocket too.

A few reasons.

First, Japan is a homogenous society, which makes Western values impossible to gain a foothold. Japan is extremely traditionalist and reputation/status is everything. Due to the Japanese mentality of "the greater good", they all slave away 80 hours per week, so they can go home to their tiny apartment. Not to mention that they go out for drinks with their colleagues.

They dont have "lives" in that sense and even women have to work work work.

So essentially the women are worked to death, which kills their libido and their femininity.

Second reason is quite simple.

Japan has had this trend for a long time and they have been preparing by investing in technology and robotics research. So they wont just open their borders and import millions, since by geography island nations are protected from foreign intrusion.

Another reason is the pressure on young men in Japan to "deliver" and become successful. Alot of Otakus (NEETs) and suicides are common place in Japan. Not to mention the newest trend of "herbivores", where up to 30% of 30 year old Japanese men are virgins.

Men simply are becoming less samurai and more and more anime faggots.

Population denisity is also an issue.

So what you're saying is it's not the Jews for once?

Derp.

Japans birth rate is climbing back up now. This is old news. Try and stay up to date on this shit before making a new thread.

It has climbed but is still under the replacement rate you fucking retard fuck off out of my thread

Also, as an FYI, if Japan's birth rate uptick continue as is, their birth rate "crisis" is slated be solved by 2020.

See here you stupid fear mongering shitskin...

I see no problem with a shrinking population. Need to check it now anyway, everywhere. More isn't better. The whole immigrant thing is to have workers paying into the social welfare system as workers retire. Fewer workers means not enough money.

It's about the Japanese work ethic combining really poorly with existing views on marriage, new freedom for women, and modern capitalism.

The Japanese family model, if you can call it that, is a husband who has a stable high income job and who supports a stay-at-home wife who raises the children.

A few things have happened recently, however. One is the collapse of stable jobs: the modern Japanese economy has become more like teh US or Germany, with the great mass of young people being stuck in low-paying work. So they don't feel like they can start a family, and don't.

The other is that women have started entering the workforce, and resent their subservient role. Once you've worked a few years and have had money to spend on fun things like travel, being a stay-at-home mother is not appealing. So they prefer to stay single into their thirties.

What would have to happen, is for the Japanese to accept that you can start a family without real job security, and without needing the woman to give up her own life in sacrifice. Either that, or be replaced by robots or whatever.

Germany's birth rate is even lower than Japan's

I meant here

They're vastly overpopulated as it is.
Once some space frees up, their population starts increasing again.

Hence why they have imported the most shitskins of any European nation. It's no coincidence. It's just a ploy to keep the GDP high for their globalist overlords. Difference with Japan is they still aren't cucked enough to want to commit cultural suicide.

its economic in nature. when the economy doesnt grow at a fast enough rate people spend less. this snow balls and people feel that it isnt a good idea to have children

assuming they arent retards who just want to be welfare whores. results may vary nation to nation depending on average intelligence.

etheopia had people looking like skeletor breeding and the children would starve for more than 10 years

No theyre not. Much of the country is empty, if not downright abandoned, in favor of crowding into a select few cities.

It mostly never is desu.

People don't make babies for the sake of the country, never have, never will. They do it for their own sake and it's not going to happen if doing so is more trouble than it's worth and can easily be avoided.

Stop bringing up that fucking experiment it has nothing to do with our current situation.
We're far from living in an utopia where everything is given to us, we have to work for everything we want, in fact we have to work so much for it that we have lost time to breed and raise children.
This is the failing of our current society, wanna fix it ? 8 hours work day, 1 day off every week so people can actually socialize and breed, and working extra being outlawed.
And for the love of god kill feminism and let women stay home raising children just like they did happily for thousands and thousands of years.

Easy, Luigi

>implying japan is overpopulated as fuck

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