Does Germany really control the EU or is it just a Eurosceptic/anti-EU myth?

Does Germany really control the EU or is it just a Eurosceptic/anti-EU myth?

they are alongside france the cornerstone of the eu.

Yes. France is also a big part of it. And some other big companies, typically multinational conglomerates.

germany and france are the EU wardens of sorts. if both of them leave the so-called union will shatter brick by brick

It's just a myth.

Luxembourg is the true puppet-master.

Neither Germany nor France controls the EU anymore, it's in the hands of lobbies and (((private interests)))

Highest amount of meps. After UK leaves its gonna get crazy.

It's like a band of thieves that are "equal", but some are large and strong and some are small and weak. In practice they aren't equal.

only parts of it

Enough to decide unilaterally to open the borders to unlimited immigration.

The Euro is undervalued for Germans and overvalued for others

Fuck you krauts

Germany is the economical powerhouse of Europe. And who has more money usually calls the shots. But the whole EU is so imperfect as an organization, they couldn't "control" it even if they tried - and they tried. Greece is an example.

>and they tried. Greece is an example.
Yes, Greece is an example of them succeeding.
Greece's economy is crushed just like they wanted. They externalized tens if not hundreds of billions worth of their own liabilities in the form of junk bonds etc. Physical Greek properties (public infrastructure, public and private real estate) are being auctioned and sold to the Germans for pennies, because people owe money, because the government imposes absurd taxes, because Germany told them to do it or else. Fuck EU apologists. This is ww3 in the makings.

>80% of the crap is benelux
Nah. The EU is Benelux+French jewery. Germany is juat the economic muscle

The eu is actually a conspiracy started by americans to have a tighter control on europe.

First of all, overvalued currency means higher standards of living and higher purchasing power. Second of all, if Germany wanted to devalue the Euro to boost their exports, how come they were the only country that resisted printing money (inflation) and giving it to Greece? France and the US were pushing Germany to do it, they resisted to the end, and even now, refuse to allow easy money policy, they are the most fiscally conservative country in Europe, and if they really wanted to help their own economy, they would've done it by now.

this is how it works

That isn't how it works. Note that I don't blame an average Greek for the crisis - the your government is responsible, and now they're feeding you all sorts of bullshit to keep the heat off them.

It was never in the interest of Germany to "crush" the economy of Greece, as it would also mean the weaking of Euro. You destroy your rivals, not your partners. Not saying that after you burned they didn't canibalize some of your assets, but it was only natural for them too look for a way to minimalize the loses after the whole fiasco.

so Merkel is playing 5000000000'd chess and using all the refugees to start the second holocaust????

>as it would also mean the weaking of Euro.
Which is one of the founding reasons of the common currency. Also see .
An undervalued euro is great for Germany, horrible for the rest of us.

bretty much

Honest question. Why is the EU flag so goddamn ugly?

There is literally nothing wrong with the United States of Europe to secure the existence of our peoples and a future for European children

Germany is controlled by the USA which is controlled by the jews.

I think it's pretty cool. Sad to see it being changed to green.

much better than your ugly cockpits sweden

If one of them left it would fall apart

it's honestly horrible.
>Sad to see it being changed to green.
source?

gif related

Piss off you attention-seeking fuck.

Honest question. Why do your women have huge chins?

What the fuck is Switzerland's problem?

What's the matter? You can't handle the sight of a strong nordic woman?

do you have a problem with neutrality?

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>huge chins
Is Portugal a country of cinlets?
I have a huge chin and I am 1,95m, blonde and red bearded

I want to fight Brünhild!

yes, but these are WOMEN we're talking about , Ahmed

who could win a war between Germany and the UK today

Uk has nukes, an actual army and a few ships left. They'd win

Germany actually has a very advanced army. They're not advertising it though, because it's not time yet.

they have advanced equipment but the bundeswehr or whatever it's called is no match for professional armies like the UK, France, US or Russia has.
And again no nukes, not enough warships to match the UK.
It's an unfair comparison. If Gemany was allowed to reaarm then it'd would be harder to say

>bullshit
No bullshit at all. He is not lying, German, French, Dutch, Italian and Belgian banks are higly corrupt and were heavily xposed after the mortgage bubble burst. They bailed them once, the second time they masked it as bailing Greece out.
There are no partners in the e""""u"""" btw.

Not Germany per se.Mostly German corporations under the protection and cover of the German state seems more accurate.

Germany is the most affluent single power in the EU.

France could very well be too, but it hasn't put much pressure until now.

Benelux, tho, as a whole, has been the general direction-setter for the EU. Only people that really know the EU realize this.

>source
It's a reference to the growing population of muslims in the EU and green being a color associated with Islam. You couldn't link those two things?

/our emperor/ will control it, very soonish.

I was very disappointed by the French when they elected a neoliberal banker as their president.

>You couldn't link those two things?
nope

Ah, yes, the dreaded automatic broomsticks.

No. That would be the USA.

>Is Portugal a country of cinlets?
We (Iberians) generally have wide-set, well-defined jaws, but not particularly large forward-portruding chins. Just, you know, chins.

Deviations from the Greek standard of beauty (i.e. uglier than average people) typically manifest as small chins and large noses in Southern Europe, whereas the Northern Europeans get large, portruding foreheads, weird-shaped chins and shitty hair.

Non-ugly people don't deviate, and are the same and roughly in the same proportion in both regions, desu.

[[[Luxembourg]]] does. And since [[[Luxembourg]]] is 20% Barbosa'd, [[[we]]]'re getting into the high ranks and driving it to the ground.

See: next Eurogroup president, former President of the European Comission, Secretary-General of the UN, winners of the Euro 2016 and Eurovision 2017, and 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'or.

All whilst keeping Portugal with bad numbers so everyone stays away while we enjoy a comfortable life.

Soon our ethnic replacement of Luxembourgers will be complete.

They know.

Same thing was said about UK leaving.

Fact

>the country with the highest population has the highest influence
Well no shit, why shouldn't every EU citizen have the same rights? Just imagine if Greece's 10 Million citizens had the same influence as Germany's 82 Million. That would really be undemocratic.

its a myth mostly. Real insiders know that Ireland is the true muscle behind EU policies.

>That would really be undemocratic.
Just image 10 wolves and 2 sheep deciding what's for diner. Would it be more democratic to have 1 vote per inhabitant, or 1 vote per species?