Why are cartoons literally and unapologetically trying to turn our children and man-children into homosexuals?

Why are cartoons literally and unapologetically trying to turn our children and man-children into homosexuals?

SJWs won

I don't think SU's "agenda" gets in the way of its quality as a show (which is high) so I don't give a shit.

They're not. You really think a T.V. show can turn someone gay or straight?

...

Sure, just like violent media turns our kids into serial killers.

no, just gay.

Yoshi and lion king turn kids into gay furries all the time.

desu I find the whole argument of "x media is making kids gay" fucking hilarious seeing the same media has made millions of virgins.

Just like I find white virgins (or just bad examples of men) who complain about coalburners and gays ruining white birthrate hilarious.

trying to lower birthrates as well as slowly accomodating the population for servitude and submission in the face of what's to come.

you can observe how cartoons start trends in storytelling that other media also adopts sometimes and vice versa. Their creators are probably unaware of what they're doing but they channel the mandates of mass media companies, they're in fact chosen because their ideas can be adapted to follow the scheme, in which they slowly erode the development of people's characters at all stages to create stunted people, not just homosexual or heterosexual but confused and troubled for crucial moments of their life.

they deny them competition and leadership, responsability and authority until they are not just unfit but unwilling and unattracted to those roles, also making them sexually passive, which further contributes to prolonging their lack of sexual development.

If media doesn't affect behavior, then why is there so much demand to control it?

Not turn, just influence.

I'm a late Gen-Xer that got the Millenial beta nu-male memetic virus. Even considered transitioning. ... really never ruled it out completely.
Something turned our entire culture away from maleness. To me masculinity is just an academic concept.

but very early on you learn the difference between realistic and unrealistic situations. Violence is rare, but these nuanced social interactions are common.

BECAUSE WE KNOW. Our lives serve as a warning to others. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

I really don't get the point of this. Is it as simple as sabotage? Is it a refinement process? I want to believe that there's a chance, whether it's all accidental or intentional.

When I was seven I watched Disney's Robin Hood and Robin made my penis tingle. Today I am a massive furfag. I am very sure that Zootopia probably gave the tingles to loads of children across the world.

The media can be very influential on the young.

>muh gays lowering muh birthrate

And I'm sure you're a complete womanizer with atleast 3 kids.

I didn't say media doesn't affect behavior. I said it's funny when people complain about media (specifically "geeky" media such as cartoons, comics or video games) encouraging gays when they have unintentionally been making millions of virgin shut ins for over half a century.

And lets be honest, even when they mate it doesn't result in the best example of the white race.

>BECAUSE WE KNOW. Our lives serve as a warning to others. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

I'm sure the last white babies will look back on you and think "wow those guys were fucking heroes for playing video games and masturbating all day because basic social situations gave them panic attacks"

Because your run of the mill minivan moms are all about muh vaules, but it's really just a means to try and rein in the world around them. People for the most part either can't or choose not to acknowledge the world is a messy, complex place with no easy or clear solutions to any of it's problems, so to compensate they tackle a "problem" they view is important to address, then pat themselves on the back when they "solve" the problem so they can feel like they have some semblance of control over their lives.

tl:dr tiny people try their damndest to make their little world feel just a bit bigger

guy who posted the chart here.

i want to leave it very clear here, it's not just masculity that's being left behind, it's assertiveness and competitiveness, gay or not, characters are not in control of their sexuality nor their social role, it is a consistent trait of storytelling lately.

i didn't specify gay, homosexuality is not portrayed in healthy, stable relationships either. The core of human dynamics, the romantic couple, is in general either outright vilified or turned into a disfunctional and unfair situation.

it's not the exposure to sex or violence in a neutral context that can harm kids, it's constant bombardment with these subtler paradigms of social roles that are far more immediate in their living environments.

eh, you could say the same about quite a lot of people, including most of Sup Forums (and yes tumblr as well)

it's just all the same shit

sometimes I wish the interest didn't exist

Hey, don't blame cartoons.

It was videogames that turned me homosexual.

This a cause-effect mixup. The show is gay because the gay as fuck demographic that watches it is already gay, and it's targeted at them.

>but very early on you learn the difference between realistic and unrealistic situations
Lots of people don't or they wouldn't get so triggered over fictional characters and actions.

Wich one? It was an JRPG I bet.

Porn mostly for me but i was always kind of a weird kid, my sexual awakening involved me finding an s&m mag, so I was bound to get fucked up.

I'm guessing it was guilty gear since well you know venom oh and that trap character "straight" people like.

or maybe we just see how poor the odds are at finding a woman who's not bat-shit insane who's going to make up go into debt to pay child support while denying us any custody because so many of the women have been poisoned.
Let alone the wizards like us who can't be bothered with mere mortals which make up 99.9% of the population. "Disregard females, acquire mana."
It's just the current reality. No one's throwing their lives onto the altar as a sacrifice towards the greater good of shitty odds of procreation or ethnic purity.

Regardless, we're in the dark. There are no wise elders left to guide us, only fools, and non-living academic texts that can't quickly be brought back to life.

So does something else explain the difference, or do you believe there is no influence of "media to audience", only "media reflecting the audience"? or maybe it's just a minority that are that retarded as to not distinguish realistic from unrealistic.

I am not THAT gay

But I probably wouldn't have gotten a bf if not for it.

>I'm a late Gen-Xer that got the Millenial beta nu-male memetic virus.
that is a lot of cobbled together adjectives
maybe you're just a tranny

No, you are right. There will always be influence of the media on the audience.
That is, like, the whole point of media in the first place.

I thought McLuhan had interesting ideas on that. To him it was not so much the content of the medium that was important but the form.

So can we say that television has always had the same effect?

Because Big Oil is trying to keep STEM fields down so that alternative energies never come about. The only way to do that is to dissuade men from going into the masculine STEM studies and influence them into liberal arts.

well except for mongoloids like Lemongrab. people with fucked up brains need to be eliminated from the gene pool, that's the moral i got at least

It's ok, user, we're all shitposting faggots here. You don't need to try and impress us with your edge.

Maybe a walk outside might clear that rage from your head?

It's true too.

Yeah cartoons had nothing to do with me being abnormal that was pretty much just hentai and my sister not hiding her sex toys good enough.

Hope you had fun with your butt.

I did, and still do. I just don't have fun with unease over my gender, that probably wasn't just the hentai but reading things like T.S I Love You, Dulce Report, and Gloryhole, Much didn't help it out much for making me think it was a thing that could happen.

but I'm not promoting it. I'm just sharing a perspective of an endemic that wasn't just limited to the Millenials.
Maybe there's something in the water. Plastics that mimic estrogens?

bitching about plastics makes you a homo liberal, dumbass.
there's straight up estrogen in the water, from birth control. from whores who want to have tons of sex with no responsibility

When did Sup Forums become a bunch of a conservative soccer moms that support censorship?

It would have to be an excess of estrogen in your mother's uterus. That stuff is connected to neurological formation during gestation.

Maybe not, but it can help gay children understand themselves. If kids are taught that "homosexual" is just something that people can be, and not some bizarre and inexplicable aberration, then it helps them be more self-aware and self-accepting.

That's one way that cartoons influence people. They show them ways of thinking about the world and about themselves.

>WON;T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN???
>Sup Forums advocating censorship
Kill yourself, hypocrite.

Wow. There's easily enough tinfoil in this thread to wrap up Area 51.

But well adjusted, realistic human interaction is something we want shown, not censored.

In fact, their portrayal in a positive context is something i would consider is censored. Male assertiveness is perverted into machismo and shunned. Feminine charisma is also repressed, the woman in charge is always unlikable and aggressive and never shows good nature. Some might argue it's for the sake of comedy, but personally i have never found that shit funny as kid or right now.

>waaah why isn't this cartoon pandering to me it should be changed because it's hurting my feelings :(

Shut up, faggot. Kill yourself.

>estrogens in the water
Isn't that like saying estrogen in soy milk will turn you into a woman? Because you would have to be already especially sensitive to estrogen AND consumed concentrated amounts of the stuff for it to BARELY affect you.

Why that's a very strong emotional reaction user, i think your argument is harming itself.

How are you getting that from Steven Universe? It's all about Steven trying to help the gems be more well adjusted.

Your alpha dog attitude demands I either rise to your example or die as a failure. I'm kidding, you're fucking useless.
Estrogen in the water comes from plastics, not just birth control, and it effects even the faithful pregnant women.

I think they take it to extremes:
We do need to understand it, because otherwise someone can claim their bad behavior is just because they're built different, so they can justify behaving badly. Not that it eliminates respect, but...

Oh, well it can't be a free speech issue, so it's a "might makes right" because virtue = money = freedom of expression?

Well it's fucking up the frogs, but I don't know. I'm just guessing at what might explain the epidemic.

>Something turned our entire culture away from maleness.

George Bush, Dick Cheney, and the organized right.

They proudly equated maleness with what constantly turned out to be belligerence, impulsive wrong choices, and arrogance.
A powerful clutch of old-fashioned "men's men" told each other they were always right, and that punishing the innocent was a necessity for the greater good, as entire countries burned.
Had Taliban leaders made the exact same statements, the media would have rightly judged it as another reason to attack them.

I'm a guy and perfectly happy with my masculine instincts, but advocates of male pride continue to wave around ignorant post-Bush machismo, now incarnated usually as support for Trump, and that isn't who I want to be.

Steven Universe has plenty other characters that are whinny bitches or cunts, user. Though Steve is annoying as hell, i think other shows like Gravity Falls were far worse at this.

Adventure Time and Korra are utterly awful examples too.

>Well it's fucking up the frogs, but I don't know. I'm just guessing at what might explain the epidemic.
You're leaning on pseudoscience just to avoid the simple explanation which is that people in general are becoming more self-conscious of their actions as a society. Especially when social media makes it even easier than before for us to keep an eye on ourselves.

This is just the natural conclusion of more open communication.

>I'm a late Gen-Xer that got the Millenial beta nu-male memetic virus.

That's not a thing

>Even considered transitioning. ... really never ruled it out completely.

Then you're probably some kind of transperson. Ignoring your true feelings and brushing aside your identity issues isn't going to make you any happier user.

>Steven Universe has plenty other characters that are whinny bitches or cunts, user.
Not in the way that post describes though. Feminine females aren't shunned as unlikable, nobody ever puts down a male for being masculine, that sort of stuff just doesn't happen in that show.

>our man-children

>Male assertiveness is perverted into machismo and shunned. Feminine charisma is also repressed, the woman in charge is always unlikable and aggressive and never shows good nature.

You're just making shit up. None of that ever happens.

That's your own problem, user. You may, in fact, be a tranny.
If you're a straight man, there's no argument that can convince you to like sucking dick (I said convince you to LIKE sucking dick, there's a lot of arguments that could convince you to do it without liking it).

>Video games are turning children into school shooters and serial killers!
kek that's retarded

>Cartoons are turning children into homosexuals and trannies!
N-Now hold on, he may have a point...

are there masculine men present to begin with? i can't say i've stuck watching it to this season

I dunno.

I personally was almost influenced by the internet to try and transition due to the fact that I always "felt good" while dressed up as a girl, later I realized it was just TV and cartoons giving me a crossdressing/tg/trap fetish.

The answer is, media can affect the young, but as a guy who was raised in a highly conservative household and is extremely republican, I think you just have to prevent children from watching this stuff. Just show them much more appropriate cartoons for when they're younger, and when they're old enough, expose them.

/blog

The people in charge think that gays, minorities and women are some untapped demographic who are complete idiots and thus susceptible to phony pandering. This has led to a marked decrease in how many people aim at the coveted 18-35 white male demographic as the amount of stuff directed at them is so saturated that the only way to get their attention is with a recognizable brand name.

Some "ambitious" types try to aim at both, like the new Ghostbusters. They don't fly so good.

>turn somebody straight
Does this ever happen? I mean, the term "bi-curious", for example, almost always refers to a straight guy/girl wanting to experiment in having homosexual relations. Do gays and lesbians ever feel tempted to have straight sex, or is homosexuality a one way trip?

>are there masculine men present to begin with?
There aren't any stereotypical "macho" men but like you said that's something used to mock masculinity. Except I guess for those two wrestlers who were just buff and handsome but the machismo wasn't played for laughs, in fact I think they were references to a particular wrestler.

Most of the Beach City dads and men are sufficiently masculine. Mr Smiley owns several entertainment facilities, Kofi is a stern and strict father who doesn't take any shit from anybody even an alien warrior, Yellowfish works incredibly hard out at sea for months at a time to support his family.

Steven himself has several moments that you would call "manly". Even in his whingy little voice he is still capable of making a calls to arms.

I'm sure there's one or two cases of a gay person becoming "bi-curious" but it's mostly a one way trip, because almost all of us are raised with the assumption that we're straight.

from hanging out with a highly concentrated pool of gay subjects, every single one of them is vaguely attractive to specific female traits, so they're at least situationally bisexual to an extent.

quite a few gay guys like tits anyways for example.

“But as soon as a new generation has succeeded and the democracy falls into the hands of the grandchildren of its founders, they have become by this time so accustomed to equality and freedom of speech that they cease to value them and seek to raise themselves against their fellow citizens, and it noticeable that the people most liable to this temptation are the rich.” —Polybios

Now, not to defend having kids in an overpopulated planet, but liberalism and "progressiveness" taking over a society has been one of the clearest signs of a civilization nearing its end since Antiquity. Since liberals can only thrive during economic bubbles prone to burst at any minute and send all the population into a hell of poverty.

Oh user! Masculinity us toxic and very dangerous for the future generations! The new Men should be docile, somewhat fat and very in touch with their emotions.