Serious question Sup Forums

To all the former liberals and lefties and go on Sup Forums , what was the final redpill that made you doubt and no longer hold liberal values and ideas ?

What made it easier to transition to the right ?

Le bump

Never. I just come here to laugh at how absurd Sup Forums is.

Anyone whose mind is changed by an internet message board should be barred from voting.

This, I'm a centrist and I can't even imagine voting Republican this time around.

The democrats have some ok ideas but their people ruin it, republicans have some good ideas but their people ruin it. Both parties are terrible and self serving. The American people will always lose under the two party machine. I typically voted democratic because I don't believe in restrictions on abortion or anything else someone wants to do with their body. I despise their stance on gun control though, and most of them have the wrong idea on trade and the role of government. I would vote republican if it were actually the party of limited government like it claims to be, but the party is full of people who want to suppress people's freedoms unless it's about gun rights. They are ok with economics but spend too much on the military and not enough on infrastructure and education, the key to our future.

Tldr: voting libertarian because it's a better option even if it's a throwaway vote, doesn't matter which of the party system wins we all lose anyway

what convinced you to be an open border NWO cuck?

really made me think

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yeah I know, they raise some great points

Samefig

It would be wonderful to live in a world without borders, without crime, without disease. A world without greed and hatred and corruption, where people worked together and felt an innate responsibility for each other.

But reality is different. That is the redpill. It's the only redpill. That's why dupes like Johnson and Stein are failures.

see you tomorrow

Joining the Marine corps. I was a stereotypical coffee shop Marxist prior to this and also a "walk out" of school and protest immigration fag as well because my parents were illegal. Growing up in the bubble that is southern orange County California away from nigs and pajeets and whatever I believed all the leftist horseshit from all the burn out boomers and school teachers/ college professors.

Joining the millitary and spending months and years away seeing the real world and working with the absolute scum of the world in terms of people has really red pilled the shit out of me. Ironically, as a devout catholic I always felt something was wrong with the left seeing ad how they advocate killing babies and gay marriage (I don't care about gay marriage though). My parents were of course libs because immigration amnesty, which is ironic because my grandpa crossed over under Reagan and was a diehard Republican. Both parents learned English and American history, worked and paid taxes for 20 years prior to becoming citizens. Their detailed 20 year tax records is what helped them get the citizenship in the end because it demonstrated a genuine will to become American and contribute to the nation. You think they would hate the shit skin beaners that don't bother

same. I am a centrist. All my friends are crazy ignorant far lefties, so I come to remember how crazy and ignorant the other side.

what convinced you to be an open border NWO cuck?
needed to be said again

I was born this way. I always hated the idea of mass immigration since my Dad told me about multiculturalism on holiday when i was about 11 and he was shocked at how appalled about the idea of mass immigration.

As I got older and I understood Game and what women are attracted this led me down the path of behaviorism and evolutionary psychology of which the only logical conclusion from these beliefs is Alt-Right or traditionalism mixed with a splash of libertarianism.

And thus I had come full circle and could logically explain my revulsion of mass immigration with rational evolution grounded arguments.

I owe so much to my ex-girlfriend crushing my soul circa 17 and leading me down the Red Pill path of Game.

0/10 Get new material.

Not sure when it clicked for me. Probably around the time I broke up with my last long term GF. I remember I was feeling beta and all that afterward. This was in college and I was pretty blue pilled, liberal. Not the type that would go out and protest over LBGT rights or any of that shit but the "yeah man I'm cool with whatever, equal rights! Yeah!" Basically didn't even have a position just kind of went with the flow.

Fast forward. I had a red pilled friend (didn't know it at the time) but I knew he was smart as shit. We started hanging out with me, he was a typical Sup Forumsack. Loner, people thought he was crazy, etc but he was a respectable guy with 'controversial' views. Started hanging out more and more and that's when he finally gave me the full dose of the red pill (Jews, bankers, Soros, etc). Had another friend I knew in a different state and he confirmed all of it was true and I continued to do my own research.

The thing is that I was always a curious person so I was open to believing this stuff if research proved true. I think the main thing stopping most normies from becoming red pilled, is that they are scared of being ostracized by society since most women they try to impress are blue pilled and they don't want to ruffle the feathers. I am a loner by nature, so I was accepting of controversial positions and didn't care that I would isolate myself from 90% of society.

Rapefugees.

Only 2-3 years ago I was laughing at you shitting on immigrants and minorities, and now Germany is in a political chaos and our cucked politicians that allowed this in the first place aren't doing shit. I suddenly understand why all over europe people are voting populists and alt-right movements. I'd never vote them because I have an education, but I'm certainly tired of progressive cucks shitting up our countries.

I mean, we Germans give them food and shelter with our own fucking tax money like good goys, and the Ahmeds pay us back by raping and suicide bombing. Luckily, Germany is very slowly starting to wake up.

Centrists are worse than liberals.

It started with Gamergate. It showed me first hand how the press can change the truth and make whatever they want into a reality.
Then, the constant terrorist attacks showed me that there will be no peace as long as Islam lives.
Also, Trump slowly gained me, and the more drawn into him, the more redpilled i got.

I could be wrong on this, but I remember hearing somewhere that "centrist" usually have lower IQs than those on one side or the other of the political spectrum.

media coverage of the Trayvon case sent me over. obvious bullshit just started appearing in everything.

The left somehow defending Islam from any and all criticism

Realizing that they are deluded dreamers who are actually hurting the very people they say they want to help.

California is bought and paid for by Shillary, unless there's some shred of evidence that Trump has a chance at winning my state - my vote will go to Johnson just to make a point.

We desperately need another party.

All lies, nice meme

these fucking morons that think a nation can be open borders and also a welfare state

He wants to get rid of welfare

I felt this same way in 2012 and voted for Johnson, but he's turned out to be a retarded cuck. I live in Commiefornia and yes I know Trump doesn't have a chance here, but fuck it. We need a better third party than the libertarians or god forbid the fucking Greens.

was saying what made me move more to the right

taking macroeconomics in college

my prof was an immigrant from Oman and he crushed my socialist leanings

My bad Friendo

true libertarianism is as unobtainable as true communism.

both are unrealistic ideals that don't take into account human nature and survival of the fittest.

When was the last time California wasn't blue? The only swing states on the west are Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada.

Honestly, what the fuck was the point of your post?

That's why all (sane) libertarians want a central government, just a small incorruptible one. Who ever thinks everything can be privatized is a certified retard

European Migrant Crisis, pretty much. But it didn't shift me to the right so far as cause me to drop off the American political spectrum completely.

Did you reply to the right person?

The stupidity of microagressions and safe spaces

The impact of Muslim immigration

Terrorist attacks occurring and instead of pity for the victims people complaining about how Muslims feel

Liberals accepting 31 made up genders and enforcing them

> MUH economics professor made me think conservatively

Nice meme kid

for me i couldnt go along with the narrative that transgenderism is ok

when SJWs started fucking with video games and comedy

why did they have to pick my 2 favorite things

Gary Johnson being a liberal faggot trouncing around in the Libertarian Party.

He is NO Paul

I'm a contrarian and also I like to root for the underdog, also, it doesn't help that where I'm from, the democrats have fucked up perception of republicans, or really anyone who has moderately right leaning views

Most republicans seem to view democrats as people who want whats best, but are misguided about doing so, while democrats see republicans as "Literally Hitler"

Obama's first term.

The left (as now constituted) fails to address the economic bases of social issues, preferring instead to make emotional appeals based on identity. Once upon a time (when Carville managed Bill Clinton's campaign against Bush the Elder), the left understood that "It's the economy, stupid." Bill Clinton and the Republican Congress, despite their differences, managed to balance the budget and provide the groundwork for business to flourish. Then things changed, and the left lost sight of economics, latching on to memes of diversity as the feel-good panacea for social ills, when it was clear that the middle class was dying, the lower class was not advancing, and lack of hope for being able to afford the American dream was killing anyone's motivation to better himself. Now, the left is a circus pandering to emotion, pushing empathy and love instead of the prospect of material advancement. Empathy doesn't pay the bills.

The first time that I was told that being a white male invalidated my argument by a professor, to the applause of a classroom full of other college freshman. I was fucking stunned. I grew up being taught that everyone was equal and spent my whole life living that ideal, and the moment that I entered University I was treated like my race and gender invalidated real arguments, that pointing them out was a substitute for logically refuting me. It's insanity.

What really bugged me about this is just what an aggressively contrarian attitude lefties had towards religion in 2000-2010 and then suddenly once Islam rolls around and represents everything that they hate about Christianity times ten, they're suddenly self-appointed PR agents for Muslims. I don't understand.

Main reason I went from a liberal to a conservative

strawman : the posters

How kind sir, I was not aware you could use a strawman agreement?