Ultimately did he really do a worse job than Romney or McCain would have done? Explain to me how he was worse than those two without using any of the following terms:
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Dindu
Ultimately did he really do a worse job than Romney or McCain would have done...
Justin Hughes
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Gavin Kelly
he didn't do surprising anything besides trying Obama care so no not really
however I feel like a Republican would be a good goy and send in troops to the middle east which would only heighten tensions more
Brayden Rivera
Niggerized
Jonathan Ortiz
>Moon Cricket
what?
Tyler Hernandez
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>Derived from early slave times when black people would come out at night and sing slave songs under the moonlight like crickets.
Owen Gomez
That jam face is one of the worst presidents ever
Xavier Brooks
Not really. His healthcare plan has been pretty terrible, but it was almost as bad before for a lot of people. They would have been roughly as warmongering and probably pandered to illegals even more (muh natural conservatives). Our economy wouldn't be notably better or worse. Race relations would probably be better, or at least less outright violent.
The Republicans have been the Outer Party of the Democrats for decades now. Gay marriage still would have passed, gun control still wouldn't have passed (although there would certainly be less egregious attempts and some lives saved). Both parties just get everybody pissed about these social issues while they keep sending jobs overseas and importing millions of brown people and driving education results down and costs up.
Nathan Baker
Obama's biggest crime is that he dramatically increased the number of people living on welfare. America has the highest labor non-participation rates it has ever had in its entire history.
This causes America to have the biggest debt it has ever had in its entire history.
Basically Obama bankrupted America because he needed mo money fo dem programs.
Ryan White
It's all subjunctive gobbledygook. He was the potus for the past 8 years.
The question is do you think he is doing a good job?
Caleb Barnes
When Romney made campaign promises of what the economy would do if he were elected, he simply repackaged predictions of where the economy was going to be no matter who was elected. So no, nothing is different.
Joseph Barnes
he created and funded ISIS whether intentionally or unintentionally. The latter is obviously intentional.
A premature pull out of Iraq against every Military adviser's advice was entirely foolish. Then not only did he pull out early, he refused to confront the issue for over a year, He betrayed the Iraqi government we spent 10 years setting up and promising support to.
Obama made Iraq a total failure since they are in bed with Iran now and he gave the world the premiere terrorist organization that is killing people every day. Iraq also provided considerable proof not only is Obama's "bombing" not effective on purpose, that he also has agents FUNDING isis.
ISIS not only kills people in Western countries or otherwise, but is a big reason for the migrant crisis in Europe, so indirectly Obama caused that too.
Obama has not only divided the world however, he's also spent years militarizing black Americans with disinformation and encouraging hateful/violent behavior they take part in. A big part of how he militarized blacks was also taking their jobs away which he then blamed on white people.
But it was Obama who admitted in 2008 that Black Americans were the ones most deeply effected by our illegal immigration. Yet in 2014 chose to naturalize millions of them anyway. And this doesn't even count the fact he is forcing in muslim immigration as fast as he can, and not even attempting to address the H1B visa abuse from corporations importing cheap Indian employees.
In summary: yeah Obama destabilized the world and the USA. He sucked pretty bad.
I could list more issues he's directly involved in, but this is long enough.
Jason Howard
Removed troops from Iraq. Created ISIS.
Worst recovery ever.
Brody Lee
Bush created Isis. He even used it in his justification report when he wanted to invade Iraq.
Daniel Rivera
Why does no one ever mention the fucking debt anymore. He's fucking horrible. Stupid nigger negro black colored nigga moon cricket slave dindu ass motherfucker.
Jordan Peterson
He did worse than Ron Paul would've done.
Elijah Morgan
>japan
>lecturing on economics
>blames obama
you live in a little bubble, don't you
don't you get tired of smelling your own farts
we get tired of reading them
Carter Perry
completely forgot Libya.
He cucked libya so that they would stop playing border control for Europe. He lets them be ruled by ISIS/radicals instead and now boats of black Africans can safely transit to Europe something Gadafi was preventing.
so yes, Obama did create the migrant crisis on purpose. The arabs and the africans infesting Europe are Obama's will and its obvious it was planned.
John Ramirez
>being an Obama supporting nigger
I'm not japanese, but god damn I love Japan, no niggers here.
Samuel Allen
I honestly didn't feel very invested in either of those elections because I didn't see either of the candidates doing anything other than continuing the slide into further mediocrity.
Cameron Price
>muh Bush boogeyman
there was no such thing as ISIS when the USA was occupying Iraq. They popped up after Obama pulled out.
Obama then said "its no big threat" until they were sufficiently powerful. Then he pretended to take action against them but didn't really do anything. Our bombing is ineffective on purpose, Russia is the one actually hurting ISIS. 1 month of their bombing was more effective than 1 year of Obama """bombing"""
Do you honestly think thats coincidental?
Bush was nearly 8 years ago, its time to admit that in these 8 years Obama has created some issues and done some bad things. You delusional revisionist faggot.
Luis Baker
Deflect blame harder bro, they're not convinced yet.
Juan Evans
Porch monkey.
Anthony Mitchell
are you really so retarded you haven't figured out most of these on your own over the last 7.5 years or are you just trolling?
Zachary Campbell
Let's going through the list:
>Dangerous level of interventionalism, including arming "neutral/moderates"
Romney would have done it
McCain DEFINITELY would have done it
>Unauthorized drone strikes
Romney and McCain both
>Obamacare
This is where they would have done a better job
>Lame Duck, Senate Issues
What people forget is that CONGRESS sets the agenda. The President can make suggestions, and will occasionally use veto power and VERY RARELY use an executive order, both of which Obama hasn't done much.
>MORAL OF THE STORY
Blame your representatives, not the President
Liam Russell
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Ryder Robinson
Well said burgerbro.
Jordan Taylor
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Zachary Brooks
You forgot spades, spooks.... and jigs.
Joseph Barnes
That coon was shit. Damn jiggaboo had no leadership. Shoulda never trusted a tar baby with the country
Isaac Taylor
Worse than those two? No.
However, the various speakers at the DNC are wrong in claiming that that moolie son of a bitch is one of the best presidents ever.
Carter Bennett
>VERY RARELY use an executive order
>Obama
You're an idiot
Jace Bailey
>put 9 trillion dollar in debt
>Obamacare is a sham costs keep rising
>REAL unemployment keeps rising
>Middle class is dyinh
Brayden Anderson
Had anybody but obama been elected we wouldn't have race relations be the worst they've been in decades.
Jason Bell
okay, not barely, but less than bush and clinton.
and don't forget, we had a lame duck session and congressional deadlock to deal with.
Jordan Martin
yo guys and I speak here as a bonafide nigger
Obama isn't black. He's not "African-American" as you've come to know it, i.e. the descendent of West African slaves brought to the U.S. in the latter half of the second millenium. He is a mother fucking Kenyan. Nigga didn't even hang out with black folk when he was younger. He ain't no nigga.
He just a fucking whiteboy faggot shill who likes to pretend he wuz kings and shit when really he was just a little nigga from Kenya. Bet he takes it up the ass from Michelle desu. She a real woman tho. Big black dick and everything a sissy whiteboy like Obama's looking for.
Cameron Gray
>VERY RARELY use an executive order
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Easton Anderson
>some lives saved
lives saved from what? Failed attempts at gun control kill people?
Eli Morris
this.
Camden James
Romney and Obama were esentially the same, Democrats and NeoCons overlap ideologically in a lot of places. Doesn't matter who won that particular election, shit most likely would of transpired in a similar fashion.
Andrew Gomez
no, it was basically like a 3rd and 4th Bush terms. Maybe a little worse.
McCain and Romney are just as bad, probably not much diffrerence
Jaxson Young
>isis has never attacked israel
>middle east mess is destabilizing a major competitor (the EU)
>investors flock to safety during chaos (dollar denominated assets)
>billionaires have done extremely well during recovery
>so have almost all major corporations
>the populace is divided and will not join to rise up against globalism
>real wages still low
>immigration, outsourcing, and H1-B visa program will keep wages low
>stock market at all time highs
From the point of view of the (((elite political donor))) class, he has done a great job.
John Thompson
hes a fucking neger
Hunter Barnes
Bullshit. Libya would not have gone down with our help in a Romney admin. Romney wouldn't have been using every legal and illegal trick possible to force through an amnesty for illegal aliens.
Joseph Harris
He refuses to enforce law specifically immigration law
Enforcing the law is his chief duty as executive
His continuation of the hawkish middle east destabilization campaign in Libya and Syria is disgusting.
He has extended and worsened the housing bubble that is expected to pop again in the next 6-8 years which will obviously be much worse than before
Jonathan Turner
Incorrect.
The decision was made to dismantle the Iraqi army under Bush. It is common knowledge now that his admin had no post-war plan, and they sent in Wolfowitz, who had zero experience in the region, along with no real plan for a post-Saddam Iraq.
The masses of fired soldiers became poor and then desperate, which sewed the seeds of what became ISIS. Trained soldiers who ceased to give a fuck because they were tossed out. Let that infection fester for about a decade, along with access to high grade military weaponry...GREAT JOB!
Elijah Price
Spook
Jayden Lopez
Stirner?
Leo Garcia
We've had more attacks on US soil by terrorists under Obama than under Bush Jr. They haven't been as severe but that isnt' for lack of desire by ISIS, more because the security established for hard-targets makes that impossible.
One or two incidents would be chance. More than that and it becomes a question of:
1) Either the world abroad is much more unstable and Islamists have much more power and reach
2) Our domestic surveillance and security procedures are much weaker.
The latter has some of the blame fall on the US public for demanding repeals of some of those heavy handed NSA techniques. But I haven't heard of anyone making the case for said methodologies which we have since ceased having been able to catch these terrorists.
ISIS did not exist in Iraq in 2004. Not even Al-Qaeda in Iraq existed before the invasion. He used the excuse of Iraq supporting terrorists.
Don't forget he derisively referred to them as Junior Varsity in 2014, having the gall to try and walk-back from it and say it was referring to all the various Islamist groups in Syria (such hogwash even Politfacts called him out on it).
Britain and France led the charge. We can't just blame them for it but they get an equal share of the blame for Libya.
Jaxon Richardson
The Iraqi sect of Al-Qaeda is literally the exact same people that are ISIS now
Oliver Nguyen
blackamoor
Cameron Thompson
>tfw politics is a spook
Tyler Cook
Romney or McCain would have done upwards of 95% of what he did, the big difference is that the GOP-held congress wouldn't have been fighting and trying to obstruct him every step of the way. In fact for that reason, Romney or McCain could have gotten away with worse. And I know for certain we'd be in a truly horrible ground war in Iran right now, with Vietnam-level casualties on our side, especially if that maniac McCain was in the White House.
Brayden Young
If it was Romney we would be having Romney v Clinton right now. Obama gave us Trump.
Daniel Price
Then there's ISIS. If one doesn't want to pick up the messes from a previous power or administration then don't become a leader. Carter had to deal with the repercussions of what happened under Ike's administration, but the problem was his as soon as he began to implement policies and actions that exacerbated the issue. Shah put into power by Ike but Shah fell in the second half of Carter's administration. That means he's got the blame for it. If it was in the first year or first few days or months like the hostages being released under Reagan then you could justify giving or rescinding credit/blame (Reagan had no role in getting the hostages released).
Likewise if ISIS emerged in 09 or 10 it would be one thing. If ISIS emerged in his first full fucking term it'd be one thing. But they emerged as a pseudo-state power conquering territory in 2013 after he'd been re-elected for a second term. 5 years of Obama policies and strategies. Not bush's. Doesn't fucking matter if Bush set the initial time table because as Obama has illustrated in Afghanistan when you are smart and not playing for politics back home you adjust the timetable based on the facts on the ground. To his credit he's wised up on that and that's why he didn't try and pull out of Afghanistan during his term so he could go "I got America out of wars". He tried doing that with Iraq and he saw the disastrous result.
Obama didn't in Iraq, didn't fight hard enough for statute of limitations to protect the troops from Iraqi lawsuits. And the result was ISIS came into power.
Whether trump or Hillary wins in 2016 if ISIS Is destroyed in the first few months without a major change in policy or strategy then credit should go to Obama.
And prior to the US pullout Al qaeda in Iraq was on the brink of destruction.
Andrew Gray
ISIS sprung up from a faction of Al-qaeda based in Iraq who thought that after the US pulled out it's ground forces from Iraq that it was time for Al-qaeda to try and seize power officially instead of continuing their current operations.
Al-qaeda disagreed, so what would become ISIS broke from AQ and declared themselves the true islamic caliphate and started taking territory.
AQ hates them because they left the fold, other Islamic groups hate them because they beat everyone else to the punch on declaring the one true caliphate.
No one "created" ISIS, they saw an opportunity when the US left and took it.
People need to stop acting like literally nothing bad could ever happen in the middle east ever without the US "creating" it.
Adam Davis
>We've had more attacks on US soil by terrorists under Obama than under Bush Jr. They haven't been as severe but that isnt' for lack of desire by ISIS
AQ always wanted to pull off some grand attack like 9/11.
ISIS is fine with someone just grabbing a rifle or driving a truck and killing as many as possible.
Jackson Wilson
He's a
Jigaboo
Brayden Anderson
I agree on McCain but you're mistakenly imagining a (R) instead of a (D) in office but everything else the same. You have Obama not getting into office but still have the tea-party sweep to power in 2010 and the Republican seizure of the Senate in 2014. Those happened because of variables that developed with Obama in office.
You wouldn't have Obamacare without Obama, which means no tea party "muh death panels" and no coalescing of anti-establishment balance the budget types. 2014 might have still gone republican because of the electoral cycle but our GOP congress wouldn't exist in a world where a republican became president.
War with Iran or a mishandling of the financial crisis could mean a Democratic sweep in 2010, maybe some kind of leftist version of the tea party. Different happenings, different developments, different challenges facing a republican president.
And I don't think Obama was the worst president or the most tyrannical like the hyperbole. But he hasn't been a very effective or successful one beyond his one achievement of Obamacare. And blame for gridlock is as much on his shoulders as on congress because it is vividly and extensively documented by his own party how aloof, arrogant and out of touch with his congressional fellow democrats he is.
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