Gary Johnson

Give me one non copy pasta reply for why i shouldn't vote for this guy

bonus points: no "your just voting for Hillary" no "Jews OMG OMG" no "Open borders meme"

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didnt think so stay classy /stormfront/

Because he supports the Trans Pacific Partnership, and the fair tax is literally the worst tax plan proposed by any major politician in the last 10-15 years.

You hate the TPP right?

worldtradelaw.typepad.com/ielpblog/2016/07/more-gary-johnson-on-the-tpp.html

>Open borders meme

But it's not a meme. He wants completely open borders.

The cuck threw a pistol in the trash can, what kind of fruit does that then proceeds to call him self American?

He is a knob gobbler who sucked Hillary's cock.
Into the trash he goes.

You have seen trumps tax plan right?

Friendly reminder a prebate is not a form of welfare

I like the idea but i hate the secrecy does that make sense?

Just watch the libertarian conference. Biggest cringe of the year. That should be enough to convince you.

you see this is a meme post.. got anything of substance user?

but im voting for johnson and weld and not the party... these guys are independents who are just using the party to get on the ballot in all 50 states

He won't build a damn wall.

This is a bad thing?

You're voting for Clinton, you're just shilling for Johnson because it means less voters for Trump.

>+0.02 cents have been deposited into your account

He's a former moderate Republican governor and so is his VP Weld. Weld is a close friend of Shillary and that's a big red flag right there.

Also Johnson can barely turn a profit selling ILLEGAL weed.

Just vote for Shillary instead.

Latinos will never be Libertarian. They want big government. If you don't build a wall you accept socialism. We vote tribally and if your tribe gets replace you lose power.

Trump's plan is a disaster but it's a godsend compared to Gary Johnson's tax plan, which means that poor people pay a higher (effective) tax rate than the wealthy, because poor people spend a higher percentage of their income.

Do you even know latinos? I used to work a union job that was 80% latino.. guess who were the strongest anti union cheerleaders?
>hint it wasnt the white people

Gun control and open borders

HIDE GARY THREADS
THEY KNOW TRUMP IS WINNING THE INDEPENDENT VOTE
THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE VOTES AWAY FROM TRUMP

Burden of proof

>convince me to not vote for Johnson
>but don't use any of the reasons why Johnson is bad
Fuck you, he's pro-open borders, pro-TPP. He's Hillary for special snowflakes and if you're too stupid to see that there's no saving you

You should, but you won't hear it from Sup Forums 'cause they're too far up Trump's ass. Sup Forums was known for its sizeable libertarian population, but it's all Trump this Trump that these days. Even Ben Garrison, who's supposedly a libertarian has paid zero to no attention to him. It's a shame to be honest. Hopefully the libertarian party gets its shit together by 2020 and makes believable shot for election.

[spoiler]They probably won't though ;_;7[/spoiler]

>Give me one non copy pasta reply for why i shouldn't vote for this guy
Because the US election system doesn't work this way.

You're literally supporting Clinton if you vote for him.

He's anti freedom of association

>pro open borders
Pretty sure all sides agree that immigration laws in this country are fucked beyond belife all ive seen johnson advocate for is giving "illegals" work visas and SSN cards so they can pay taxs
>pro TPP
I hate the secrecy around this bill but im pretty sure globalism has made my life in the US pretty fucking cheap... why would anyone want to pay a tariff on goods we get for dirt cheap now?
>Hillary for special snowflakes
i dunno how to respond to that.. is it a joke?

>clinton supporters say if you support a third party you're voting for Trump
>trump supporters say if you support a third party you're voting for Clinton
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

They don't vote that way. Unless they are 1st generation Cubans, 2/3 Latinos vote Democratic.


It's a shitty ideology anyhow.

theamericanconservative.com/articles/marxism-of-the-right/

If Trump loses badly this November (which I think is more likely than not), I'd imagine Sup Forums will lose some of its Trump-ier elements. (there's always been a big nationalist contingency, though)

Welcome to First Past the Post

All those reasons you said not to give are completelt valid.

I dunno man im finding harder and harder to swallow this polling data.. the rise of Trump and Brexit kind of screwing the pooch for pollsters

Firstly, in America third party is a joke and the literal definition of throwing your vote away.

Secondly, Libertarianism is a right wing pipe dream, it's on the same level as communism in terms of being unworkable because it is diametrically opposed to human nature.

Lets be real here, this isn't the 1700s, and there hasn't been a successful Libertarian society for centuries at this point (and even then it they were arguably libertarian to begin with)

Supports TPP

Ok. Imagine the numbers are wrong and libertarians are only 80 percent White. Is that more viable? Does that make open borders any more reasonable.

Enjoy getting fucked in the electoral college.

>there hasn't been a successful libertarian society for centuries at this point

Chile?

Yes, I understand basic political science too.

Try this on for size, though. I live in California. It doesn't matter who I vote for - Johnson, Stein, or Kodos. However, if I vote Libertarian, I can help them cross the 5% threshold which gets them federal funding.

As I recall, the LNC chair said that they would have to have a philosophical debate about taking federal funding. Personally, I hope they swallow their pride and put aside their principles temporarily and use it to field more candidates and better candidates.

>Open borders meme
but it's not a meme, he wants open borders.
And he pick a strongly antigun VP

youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

The fact that gun rights wasn't on top means the party has been hijacked by leftists. His VP is an anti gun cuck. Google it.

>le peasant struggles to get to 30,000 feet
>le god emperor nonchalantly eats BigMac at 30,000 feet in private jet
fuck donald Trump is a boss

i was talking about Gary Johnson and not that Nicholas Sarawak guy

California isn't America anymore. Vote for whomever you want. It's a safe blue state.

>gimme one reason

he's a fucking retarded shit-tier bullshitter

>muh libertarianz dood

give me one reason why you shouldn't be banned from voting forever for being such a dipshit

Didn't they bounce from dictatorship to socialism? Or are you talking historically?

Without a welfare state and low barriers to work or start a business

If you live in California then go ahead, I don't disagree with your strategy in regards to getting funding for a third party.

That's what I was saying.

Which is counteracted by the prebate, which makes it progressive again. Issues such as the fact no sales tax above 10% has had compliances of more than 60% and worse once it gets higher, the current willingness of local government to protect illegals and help them cheat the prebate system, amongst other issues are valid criticisms, but not that one.

lmao, even worse than DNC

I'm in NY

he's a pothead that wants open borders

>twenty seconds in
>fucking harry potter
I just paused this. Does it get worse?

He's never been a serious candidate since he left the Republican Party. He's part of the LP machine for raising money so they can all avoid getting real jobs.

No, the prebate doesn't counteract it, it just makes it less bad.

How does the prebate not counteract it? Please, describe the mathematics were going "oh, people pay this much in average? Let's make them not pay it" not make it so that the tax turn progressive.

Not an argument

Because he's a third-party candidate in a two-party FPTP system.

He won't win, not only because he lacks raw exposure, but because a two-party system incentivizes people to 'act rationally' and hedge their votes within the two major parties -- even when other options are clearly visible and more desirable.

You can vote for him on a moral basis and to see if it's possible to obtain enough support to qualify him for debates, but ultimately that vote still means nothing outside sustaining your personal convictions and changes nothing nationally as a result of the FPTP system.

TL;DR You'd be throwing your vote instead of attempting to cut your losses like everyone else.

That meme is not accurate at all
You have shamed kek by abusing the gift of dubs

fuck off and take your open borders traitor with you. it's not a meme

because it's just a more retarded version of a negative-income tax, People's tax rate still decreases as they become wealthier. Yes, the prebate means people won't starve to death. No, it doesn't make it progressive. What would make it progressive(ish) would be to not apply said tax to food, drink, etc, but the FairTax code is very clear about this - No exceptions.

>Voting third party.
Why not just stay home and not waste the gas?

*peoples effective tax rate, not actual tax rate

He takes votes away mostly equally from both sides, you're just being a dick to the establishment and breaking their conditioning, that's why I'm voting for him

You aren't going to dismantle the countries welfare state as easily as you can open the borders dumbass

>wants to take guns from the Literally retarded
>totally anti-gun

>progressive(ish) would be to not apply said tax to food, drink, etc, but the FairTax code is very clear about this
Ah, you are using the retarded definition of progressive and can't show that mathematically. I get ya.

Wait, what? You are breaking the conditioning of the establishment... by essentially not voting? I understand you beef, but trying to get someone elected which you know cannot, mathematically, be elected is essentially doing nothing. Pushing and supporting a candidate that aims to remove said limitations is the only real option in FPTP voting, as many studies show. There has been no case of someone beating the Spoiler Effect for very simple reasons.

>1:53
>muh roads
>using 4chin lingo in real life

this is embarassing

kill yourself

Shall not be infringed. You don't get to determined who is the legally retarded, because that simply allows the government to decided YOU are legally retarded for no good reason.

To be fair, that is something people keep insist why libertarianism doesn't work. France seems to do quite nicely, but they apparently never heard that most roads in france are private.

There's a reason I said progressive(ish) and not progressive, because a actual progressive tax would be your tax rate getting higher as your yearly income increase.

He's a social justice warrior cunt.

>"your just voting for Hillary"
You are.
>no "Jews OMG OMG"
Nazis are leftists, sport.
>no "Open borders meme"
You are for open borders.

Misdirection and shutting off legitimate concerns.
Advocating more democrat party rule.

This is why you don't win elections. You're dishonest and borderline stupid. No offense.

Open borders, doesn't tolerate businesses discriminating, and his platform is too weak that a vote for him is a vote for Trump... in which case, vote for him if not Trump.

Among many others, Sarah Palin showed how it's done.
She started at the bottom, with the school board, then moved up, gathering followers based on her record.
When she got the top job in her state, she was easily able to evict the Old Boys Club and the oil companies.
Learn from history, user.

Have fun when autism Andy blows your brains out because you would rather be a """""real""""" libertarian than restrict the rights of the mentally retarded to protect other lives

Why would I do that? When I'm in the states I carry and the mentally is are infinetely less likely to shoot me than the healthy, with the very few attacks of the mentally ill occuring only in places where they don't let guns, which will never have me as a visitor.

This.

Libertarianism is an acceptable ideology if you're 19 years old and still growing up.

If you've reached your mid 20s or later and are still a libertarian, it just becomes sad.

Yeah but 80% percent of Sup Forums has no idea what open borders entails other than "muh non whites"

I agree everyone should have a weapon but the severely mentally ill who show signs of violence and actively seek out and hurt people should not be armed

>he does not believe in the 2nd amendment
>I'm totally pro guns guys!
>slippery slope does not exist
First they came for the retards and I didn't speak up...

He wants open borders and wants the government to steal your guns and remove your rights.
>Libertarian

Source? I have never heard him say he doesn't believe in the second amendment

The first one is correct but then you develope a serious case of mouth diarrhea

>the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
>wants to take guns from a certain category of citizens
Why not strip retards of citizenship then? Hell why not out them in death camps? I mean they are second class citizens afterall, right?

during one of the libertarian debates he said he was open to discussing restricting firearm sales to the mentally-ill but in the same breath acknowledged the potential slippery slope and it's danger to gun owners.

This has become sweeping gun legislation on Sup Forums because the misinformation is staggering.

Might have been the 2nd debate? You get to see Austin Petserson go hard when Gary starts to give his answer on guns.

He supports TPP

>who show signs of violence and actively seek out and hurt people should not be armed
You shouldn't have let them out on the streets then.
You've said, 'I think he's ok, and I'll bet your child's life on it'.
Guns belong to every non-jailed citizen we have. Because if they aren't jailed, they shouldn't be out.

yeah there's no way to defend him on this one

I see now, yes it makes sense to me
If we don't give the unstable mentality ill guns why not just kill them! How could I be so foolish you have opened my eyes

As a national socialist who places the preservation of race ahead of all other goals- it becomes obvious why a libertarian is just as much an opposition and enemy as a liberal or cuckservative is.

Because he ran in 2012 and got BTFO

This is stupid. You are stupid. Please rethink this level of stupid. Thank you for reducing your level of stupid. Hopefully you won't have such a high level of stupid soon. Have a good day, free of stupid.

So you agree they shouldn't have guns, glad we see eye to eye

Skip to 2:46 for abridged version.

youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

I legitimately think this is the best reason not to vote libertarian. Watch 2:46 if you can't be arsed to watch entire thing. The national party is a mess and needs to establish itself in some states and build a grassroots.

Anti-gun libertarian like Weld