If Donald loses to Hillary, should the South Secede and elect Trump as their leader with a Saudi Arabia-type Monarchy?

If Donald loses to Hillary, should the South Secede and elect Trump as their leader with a Saudi Arabia-type Monarchy?

Because Southern secession worked so well the first time.

>if
It's already over. Trump has shown himself to be too retarded. Enjoy 8 years of shillary

That was over 150 years ago.

This will be a friendly secession

We are more divided now than we were before the first civil war.
Another one is coming and I'm preparing.
If you're smart you will too.

>the secede meme
Kek

And you enjoy the 2 cents deposited into your account. Thank you for supporting Shillary!

>This will be a friendly secession
How so? What makes you think the fed would let you off easily?

t. remainer

NATO will bomb us southerners like they did to Serbians if we ever acted uppity

I don't think the FED will kill Americans. I'm sure NATO Members in Europe would though

>I don't think the FED will kill Americans
Alright, so assuming this is true, what would actually be the catalyst that would convince the entire South to democratically leave the union? I know there's a lot of anti-Union resentment, but there has to be a much more widespread level of support in order for it to realistically take place.

I urge you to study how insurgencies work in the middle east. It'll be the same way one works here. The more they send tanks into towns, the more they bomb civilians, the more federal raids they commit, the more people rise up against the status quo in a hostile revolution. The only way to quell a rebellion without making it a rebel factory in of itself is a police state. And with the clear divide between red and blue in our country, the government themselves estimate that ~75% of the military/leo will defect and/or rebel themselves
Their own wargames analysts predict even ~50% of federal Leo will defect and/or rebel themselves
Its a losing war for the status quo as soon as the first shot is fired
But you're right. NATO will get involved to preserve the status quo but Russia and China have previously confirmed they would aid/advise rebel fighters if hostile revolution broke out. It'll be a giant political battleground. But every foreign power will have an interest in who comes out on top.

Also you seen to forget the /South/ is everywhere 30 minutes outside any major city not just cleetus and Bobby Jo down in Alabama

> implying Florida will vote Trump

Obama carried the state twice. Trump spent his entire campaign savaging Florida's elected Senator and Governor (Rubio and Bush). Not only will the second richest state in the South not secede, they're going to vote for Clinton.

Here's the truth: Trump will lose, badly (cf. Johnson's landslide victory over 'far right' Goldwater when the country was far less liberal). The United States will continue pursuing the same neoliberal agenda it has since Reagan. The world's second most enthusiastic capitalist party will retain power so long as the Republicans are mired in backwards social policies. Close and heated battles between neoliberal capitalists (Clinton) and democratic socialists (Sanders) are going to become the norm.

The reactionaries have lost. Nativism cannot win the day in a country as diverse as the United States. Sorry, Sup Forums. Feel free to hurl insults at me, but the inability to face facts will only hurt your cause. Clinton is your next president.

What part of A MORE PERFECT UNION do you not get?

The EU was sly-threatening war with the UK if it left. I hear the US Gov is a bit more robust and underhand when it comes to controlling its interests.

you would collapse every blue state economy now they can no longer suck the life blood out of you and have decent interest rates to boot.

Except no-one down here in Florida has any loyalty to Rubio or Bush. Most people are voting Trump.
>Trump will lose, badly.
Well, no shit. If Clinton is fine with killing people to silence them, and committing electorate fraud, voter fraud isn't outside the realm of possibility. I mean, Democrats have been doing it for a long time now, their mastery of the art will culminate in a Hillary victory no question.

>Abdullah will penetrate and fill my womb

>my children will be muslim

The post.

It's pretty sad that you're chalking up the last two victories (Obama won by literally millions of votes) to "electoral fraud." You're small circle of friends and the echo chamber forums you visit are not indicative of national sentiment.

If you want to cultivate an active rightwing political opposition, you must face facts. Cowering in the refuge of conspiracy theories has never been an effective political strategy.

For starters, most people in Florida are not voting Trump. Like the last two general elections, Florida's metropolitan majority will deliver a Democratic victory. Secondly, if no one in Florida has any loyalty to Rubio or Bush, how did they win multiple terms?

This penchant for exaggeration and sweeping generalization is precisely what will doom the altright. I'm not making any value judgments on your politics, or on Trump's various stances. But your inability to understand the popular sentiment cultivated by globalized capitalism (sympathy for the rights of gays and minorities coupled with the general acceptance of the autonomy of multinational corporations) is embarrassing. The Clintons do not need to assassinate anyone to coast to an easy electoral victory. Globalized capital has already assured their triumph.

>The Clintons do not need to assassinate anyone to coast to an easy electoral victory

You're right. Because they already have.

Do I need to bring up the list...?

Again, wallowing in conspiracy theory has never brought an opposition party to power. You can show me anything you originally discovered on an altright website and feel totally secure in your secret knowledge of the wicked machinations of the Clintonite regime. It's the smug counter of any Gnostic.

What you have to realize is it will never help you seize power. There is no historical precedent. You have to deal with larger issues (eg. globalized capitalism, financialization + deindustrialization, neoliberal ideology) if you ever want to actually understand the resounding successes of the Democratic party at the national level.

But they're not conspiracy theories you thick headed fool.

Let me guess, MK ultra is a conspiracy theory too?

Operation Northwoods too huh?

All I can see is you shilling for the selling of ones soul for the power of the enemy we oppose to defeat them.

Hillary Clinton's Email scandal is EXACTLY another conspiracy theory, that has enough normal faggots paying attention and enough limelight to actually DESTROY her. If not by votes but by her being imprisoned or at the very least disqualified from running as US president.

The PRECEDENT HERE is that motherfucking BILL CLINTON was impeached for ONE COUNT of perjury and ONE COUNT of obstruction of justice, of which Hillary as done MULTIPLE TIMES, with 30,000 emails PROVING MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

Are you a fucking shill or what?

>How so? What makes you think the fed would let you off easily?
A lot of US bases are located in the South. A lot of personnel are Southerners, and still identify as Southerners.

Hell, if the South really wanted to, they can organize to take over now as they have the means. The problem is that they lack leadership and organizational skills - they're fucking stupid. That's why they're just stuck on "the South will rise again!" until today, because they haven't found someone smart enough to pull it off.

With the fed suppressing the South, with SPLC and all that, the only way the South can break off (or even conquer the North) is if the country is so fucked up that the federal leadership is no longer able to police the South.

Speaking of SPLC, it's weird how the Southern Poverty Law Center has nothing to do with dealing with the South's crippling poverty - the South is the largest recipient of gibs, by the way. SPLC is more towards keeping the KKK and Neo-Nazi organizations down. I suppose that's the strategy. Keep the South poor, and dumb so they can't "rise again".

And you know who runs the SPLC.

game worth playing?

DESU it's fallen out of it's golden age.

I think so. I've recently started playing it again myself with some friends.

FOnline: Reloaded is the only one with any population btw (max 200 a day, which is actually decent btw. Golden age had single server with 600 population peak)

I don't like Hillary Clinton in the least. I'm not going to vote for her just as I've never voted for anyone in a general election.

You prove time and again that your only interest is in soap opera politics. I don't care at all about Hillary Clinton as a person, Donald Trump as a person, etc. This is about the only thing that "mainstream media" and the altright have in common: a servile deference to the politics of personality. Unfortunately for you, this does not determine the outcome of democratic elections, much less the course of the globalized capitalist economy and its attendant social mutations (lax attitudes towards sexuality, the reinforcement of identitarian regimes of knowledge popularly hailed as multiculturalism, the ceaseless collapsing of national borders to encourage the flow of capital and of labor, etc.). The 'redpilling' so popular here completely misses the mark because it's so painfully divorced from geopolitical reality - by its very nature it can only zoom in on the particular.

The altright must work on a far more sophisticated understanding of neoliberalism, the dominant ideology of globalized capitalism today, if it ever expects to make concrete political advances. Your specialized knowledge of Hillary Clinton's secret monstrous rise to power is useless. It's the stuff of salacious tell-all journalism. It isn't serious politics.

It actually did considering the inflation, soldier ratio, and economy ratio.

What we really need to get rid of is currency so people can work at their passion out of love for life. Scientists just had an ALS breakthrough using money from the ice bucket challenge. Imagine the breakthroughs if currency didn't exist and everyone worked together as one family. Money is more of an obstacle.

ill give it a try thanks

>Obama won by literally millions of votes

That's not very much given the country has a population of 330 million. Fact is he won both elections in terms of the popular vote by a couple percentage points which is very close by presidential election standards.

>Who is POTUS doesn't matter
>It's not serious politics

I think we're done.

Your overly ambiguous statements are particularly grating.

And implying your average person is in anyway paying attention to "le serious" politics you claim we aren't capable of having any agency towards is ridiculous.

This is an election.

Quite frankly, even by your own words, we are probably the most well suited non government body capable of having a consequential effect on this election.

You vote for people to do the serious politics for you, with certain guidelines.

The average citizen will never actively participate in any form of politics beyond that.

Except this time the rustbelt, the midwest, and the north would go, too. Yankees would only have Pacific and Northern Eastcoast

>just as I've never voted for anyone in a general election.

Liberal spotted

I never said who the POTUS is does not matter. None of my statements are ambiguous, let alone "overly." To the contrary, they're hyper-specific, to the point of condescension. Feel free to isolate anything I've said and I'll be happy to explain further.

And no, there is not a large enough non government body to have a serious impact on this particular election. The Democrats have it sewn up. Just as they have for the past decade. You can berate me for admitting this, but I imagine you'll be very upset this time next year when you're suffering through a Clinton presidency. The idea that a reality television star was going to pull an upset victory over the standard bearer of neoliberal capitalism will go down in history as a hilarious miscalculation.

You need to get smarter. You need to start paying attention to the globalized flow of capital and its effects on social values.

> liberal

Not even close. Your misunderstanding is indicative of the failure of the altright to seize power.

>It's pretty sad that
oh shit, what a bad start. Shaming language means a non-argument is incoming.

>I'm not making any value judgments
>...
>is embarrassing
oh boy

No need to be alarmed gents, it's just some faggot who like sounding smart but isn't.

>said the guy who doesn't pay attention to polls

Rather have an honest altright than a deceiving liberal. You are honestly why we can't have nice things, please become more patriotic or chug battery acid.

if hillary actually "wins" we would have a country that looked like this after all the willing states leave for Trump

If he would be willing to split our country

>We are more divided now than we were before the first civil war.

TIL Bathroom laws and whether creationism is a science == literally asking whether it's kosher to buy/sell people as livestock

Got it, senpai

half the united states military is southern we are also self sufficient

yeah without the south america actually has to import food unless they want to eat corn for the rest of their lives

I said I wasn't making any value judgments on the poster's "politics" (coincidentally, you fragmented that quote to excluse the last word, wonder why). And I did not.

Also, you can't seriously suggest ad hominem precludes the possibility of a reasonable argument. If that were the case, you would not be on Sup Forums and you would not be employing it yourself.

As has been the case throughout this thread, you have yet to address any of my actual points, preferring to attack "my tone."

Thanks for thinking I sound smart, though. Your words.

If he takes those states, he won't lose

Are you literally retarded? Most of the current American cuisine is corn thanks to the government subsidization of it.

Think about that before you go to work at your fast cornfood job in your corn-fueled car.

As a florida man I would wholeheartedly leave with Trump. Not because I like him, but I hate hillary and everything she stands for.