This idiot actually wants to return to a gold standard

>this idiot actually wants to return to a gold standard

How can anyone even vote for him?

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>Gary "paying a Sherpa to drag me up Everest means I'm qualified to be president" Johnson
>Gary "Jews need to be forced to bake Nazi cakes" Johnson
>Gary "a replica of George Washington's gun given to me as a friendly gift from a colleague? Into the trash it goes" Johnson
>Gary "William Weld is totally a libertarian, just ignore his voting record and positions" Johnson
>Gary I agree with 73% of what Bernie Sanders says" Johnson
>Gary "fuck borders, and worker's rights too" Johnson
>Gary "Iran is a threat to national security because they fund ISIS" Johnson
>Gary "dude I'll just listen to people lmao" Johnson
do people actually take this joker seriously?

That's not a bad idea user

Qaddafi was going to put his country on the gold standard. that added another target to his back unfortunately

>not wanting to be on the gold standard

canada confirmed for fucking stupid hat

grounding curency against a finite measurable comodety like gold actually stops big banks and Gov from actively meddling with the global value of said currency. They can still jew it passively but it takes more work and is why the globalists refuse to go back to it.

Yeah, because printing money with absolutely nothing behind it is safe, brilliant, and completely plausible.
Seriously, do Canadians take shitposting classes in middle school?
You syrup niggers are unbearable at times

I, too, would hate to have a shek-...gold-backed dollar.

I'm absolutely sure the gold is in Israel or some bank in London.

>wants to let in millions of socialists from Central America who will outbreed us

>this is a good way to shrink government

>there are people retarded enough that still think the gold standard is a good idea even though history shows its a disaster.

You people should be be required to wear dunce hats so people know not to talk with you

He's the most short sighted libertarian decision there

Even if he were to win, the demographic shift going on from Latin countries will throw the country into socialism within 10 years

Every single Hispanic country is socialist

>nothing behind it
Except for a nation's credit rating and economy, which a system using that can exponentially grow faster in prosperity than the gold standard ever could. Gold is also artificially accessed in it's value; theoretically any nation could either hoard a bunch of gold then quickly release it to overwhelm others, find a huge reserve of gold somewhere that lowers it's value, or have the appraised value of gold drop after changes in it's applicable uses for some other material. You're literally placing faith on some mineral whose market-value has been far more dynamic than the dollar's over the past few decades.

Gold was fine when nation's didn't have the communications and unanimous global trade agreements that we have today. But since those have improved from the 1800's onwards, it has become obsolete if you want a Capitalist-style market in your country.

These are the people that will tell socialists to go read an economics 101 textbook

Why do Spics like Socialism so much?

China is doing this too. Are they dumb?

he's just paid opposition to suck votes off of trump

this guy sucks (votes)

We have a sense of community.

However it fails most of the time because there is no bigger power than money.

Yes. They're sitting on a house of cards

Alt-right kids will never #FeelTheJohnson b/c he backs meritocracy instead of white supremacy.

Pinochet was a great man

Agreed.

no they aren't

Basing your monetary supply on your supply of shiny rocks is a retarded idea, but libertarians, being the autists they are, will obsess over anything shiny.

t. right wing retard that knows nothing of pinochet's regime

>but he was an edgy authoritarian so he must've been cool!!

where does this magic meritocracy exist other than the west? China? kek

How the fuck will the gold standard help anything if he deletes our borders?

Libertarians are anti-border therefore anti-sovereignty

>How can anyone even vote for him?

He supports the TPP. I won't vote for him.

America, faggot.

No m9, he's referring to Somalia, freest society on earth

The US government destabilized Latin American from 1930 to 1980, they deposed nationalist governments and killed nationalists, so you only had two options: Be a satellite nation of the US and suck American dick or be a godless commie child-eater.
This is why the old school communists here are nationalists who hate banks, hate the US, hate faggots, hate the media, while wanting everybody armed and land reform.

is it really that bad? what about the whole idea that gaddafi was overthrown because he wanted a gold backed african currency? do globalists find a gold backed currency threatening?

Returning to the gold standard would literally crash the economy the way it is set up now.

Economics is a meme anyway, so you might as well do it right and go full meme.

Economics really are irrelevant. Tax cuts and fiscal/ monetary policy are mere short term distractions from the real issues. Immigration is permanent. I would rather have alright income and a white society than a high income and be surrounded by shitskins and chinks.

>let's sacrifice a potentially nationally resurgence so we can tell people we didn't vote for trump! The girls who friend zone you might actually date you then!

The fact of the matter i would love a an-cap society even but we just are not there

What I do know is that if you give this election to Hilary, you won't even get to see a cuckservative win again

The demographic shift towards importing left voting Middle East and Latinos will push Florida beyond saving

They will resettle the Muslims in Ohio or Pennsylvnia and Virgina will eventually turn blue anyway

Not to mention your gun rights will be destroyed as 3-5 seats are up for the court

Wake the fuck up and take one for the team. We need a trump win to ever see a small government

The dumb fuck loves illegals.

Nevermind that a vote for him or (((Stein))) is a vote for Killary. Neither of them are going to win. Why anyone would cast their ballot for them is a complete mystery. No. Just no.

>Libertarians are anti-border therefore anti-sovereignty
Oh for the love of shit, no we're no! When are Sup Forumsacks gonna drop this retarded straw man already?
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> having some standard for our currency is a bad thing
> fiat currency is good

Pinochet was a tool of Kissinger and therefore little more than a Cold War puppet designed to support US foreign interests.

At the same time he killed communists by throwing them out of helicopters.

>other than the west

learn to read

Basically this

US politicians have been making terrible foreign policy decisions in South America for decades. Even today they are forcing globalism and international finance on them and the excuse of the Cold War has been long over. Now you can't justify the meddling at all beyond ensuring certain banking jews on wall street keep getting big paychecks.

You are a disgrace to my country faggot. For decades now all the world's currencies have had value literally only because the government says they do. Back in the gold standard years, of course, it had value no matter what. Now the world's governments are printing huge amounts of money to cover up the fact that the world economy is fucked, and the flaws of this system are about to be revealed. The gold standard will come back, because it will have to. Screen cap this, there will be an economic meltdown the likes of which the world has never seen within this year. Invest in silver while you still can.

>basing your monetary supply on the number of shiny rocks you dug out of the ground

no, and you forgot
>Gary "pass me another special brownie but I would totally quit weed if elected president" Johnson

So why are you not voting trump?

Hilary is open borders

The election will end in Hilary or trump

Considering I've been reading libertarian authors for a decade, You/we need a trump win to ever hope for that future

>basing your monetary supply on fucking nothing

Sounds like a great plan.

>world's currencies have had value literally only because the government says they do.

Welcome to the dawn of civilization

The government was always the one that minted coins in the first place.

You think you could mint your own coins back in 1870? kek

>nothing

it's based on the government's claim to taxes and it's monopoly on force

go ahead and declare war if you think that is "nothing"

Better basing it on nothing or petroldollar in your case right ? Your curency is UP only because oil

A FUCKING LEAF

>printing money to infinity....and beyond!
>good

Oh really? What are some of the examples of it being a disaster?

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Isn't he basically the DUDE WEED of murrican politics?

Trump > Johnson

GUYS I GOT IT

WE CAN JUST IMPORT MEXICAN SOCIALISTS AND THEN WE CAN START OUR LIMITED GOVERNMENT GOLD CURRENCY!!!

WHO CARES OF ALL OF THEM HAVE SUB 85 IQS AND VOTE SOCIALIST, WE CAN PAY THEIR GOVERNMENT WELFARE IN GOLD!

THEY MIGHT OUTBREED US BY THE TIME OUR KIDS ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT IM TO SCARED TO VOTE FOR TRUMP

you don't need the petrodollar to be successful

see:China

>infinity

nope you just have to print money to create enough demand to stimulate the economy

arguing against stimulus is like arguing that pressing down on the accelerator of a car will cause you to go 1000 mph and crash and that therefore no one could ever drive a car

It's lunacy

> it's based on the government's claim to taxes

Wow so based on nothing tangible and something that is DIRECTLY controlled by the government

wow that sure is something!

he is worse than DUDE WEED

at least dude weed doesn't pretend to be "conservative"

>it's based on the government's claim to taxes and it's monopoly on force
sure, no kikery there

Jesus Christ, you moron. The government minted coins, but they had intrinsic value. Paper money was meant to be an IOU for a certain amount of gold.

To make the value of money completely symbolic is to render its production meaningless - people will just keep printing it and printing it, and in the end you have chaos.

is ammo super cheap in brazil, or what?

So...still infinity? rofl so long as it meets our "needs"


"needs" of an economy that spends too much on domestic programs.

Not really, he destroyed a big part of the national soul. Besides, he stole a lot of shit too, he and his wife.

In the end he was just another corrupt dictator. Maybe for you that is a great man. For me that is a common man.

>crusty meme used over and over

fuck off trump, jr.

why you so scared to debate?

At least its non-Keynesian user

1800 to 1913 - except those caused by temporary abandonment of the gold standards, 0 recessions/depressions
1913 to 2017 - 19 recessions/depressions

you're fucking retarded

The whole Depression of the 1930s was caused by the obsession with sticking to the gold standard you morons

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression#Gold_Standard

>not tangible

so guns and soldiers aren't tangible?

Government existed long before jews were a thing

>intrinsic value

not really seeing as government controlled the currency you could use to pay taxes and would remint the coins for new states and governments

You can't just mint your own coins unless you're prepared to fight a revolution

>infinity

seeing as no economy is infinitely large then no

Don't try to discuss things you don't know about

A gold standard would be great but we can't even get people to vote for a border wall

Do you think the lefties would allow that?

>non-Keynesian

in other words jewish

>trudeau sold all the gold few month ago
>XIR WE SHOULD USE GOLD

A shiny rock based economy is retarded

I am not, I am voting for Trump. I am not wasting a vote on a walking, breathing diversionary tactic.

>seeing as no economy is infinitely large then no

So economies have a cap? interesting

>so guns and soldiers aren't tangible?
Wtf do soldiers and guns have to do with the governments "claim" to taxes (that COULD be disputed if you go by the constitution)

why did they shoot that man wtf

that looks like it must have hurt. hope he recovers.

They will be forced to when this shitty system inevitably fails. Which is going to be in the next year.

He's a democrat lap dog.

Fuck that faggot.

lul

LOL, no.

>economies have a cap?

unless you think economies can somehow be of an infinite size

You expand the money supply in order to act counter cyclically by cutting taxes and increasing spending.

Then you shrink it when the economy begins to recover by raising taxes and cutting spending. It's not a difficult concept unless you're some autistic libertarian.

>Wtf do soldiers and guns have to do with the governments "claim" to taxes

Other than the government's monopoly on force?

He left the hospital a few days later, he's fine.

this. the gold standard is autism, only edgy fags who don't understand trade deficits and surpluses, and how this interacts with a gold standard would support it

lol yes

the gold standard limits your economy to the amount of shiny rocks in it meaning the government can't act counter cyclically to avoid a deflationary spiral

Not taking that bait. Moron.

just found my oldfag folder
AMA

cant upload bmps

basic economic history is not "b8"

reminder that Keynes was a eugenicist who admitted Hitler had the right ideas economically while libertarians from Rand to Mises were anti racists and globalists (unless you count Israel)

but you do agree SOME sort of standard is logical

or do you at least agree fiat currencies are cancer?

>return to gold standard.
that's the only thing I like about Johnson. Literally his only good policy.

Fiat currency always fails eventually just look back in history.

No, it wasn't, and anybody who tells you that it was doesn't know what they are talking about. Look up Hoover's "Volunteerism." He got industry leaders to "volunteer" to not lower wages because he was scared of deflation. He was scared of deflation because of large speculative bubbles that had been blown all over the place on insane margins. What he failed to understand is that deflation is not a wage issue, it is a monetary issue, and it happened anyway. This meant that in real value, employers were paying their employees more, and they could not afford it. Boom, they were jobless. After that, the farmers took a hit because of the dustbowl and FDR, while he stopped the hemorrhaging, kept on meddling in the economy in ways that kept it from recovering, like price controls.

The problems were speculative bubbles and government meddling in shit that it didn't understand.

we should not have been selling our shiny rocks then.

mises.org/sites/default/files/Americas Great Depression_3.pdf

What gold standard? We didn't fucking have a gold standard in 1929. What drugs are you on?

Money supply increased by 60% and gold reserves increased by 15% between 1921 and 1929. Money was being created out of thin air, with no gold backing.

>le wages are too high meme

no the problem was no one trusted the economy after the crash so they wouldn't spend

that's why government stimulus was the only solution.

>we shouldn't treat a commodity like a commodity

lol ok

This
Bimetallism with Silver would work though. Even Friedman acknowledged it would have a stabilizing effect to add Silver to counter the deflationary Gold.

Exactly, the state of the economy all circles around the distribution of wealth. People weren't spending cause they didn't have enough money and debts became more expensive cause of deflation. There had to be a stimulus (New Deal) to force inflation and fight unemployment. The root cause of all economic problems is the lack of flow of money. Right now we have problems cause people keep stashing away money even though it's fiat. We can't just print more money all willy nilly cause that lead to too much inflation. This is why we either need to have measure for wealth redistribution or Bimetallism to insure against too much deflation from Gold by also have Silver used as money.

Why not just back the dollar up on all commodities then

As long as you have private bank credit you're gonna have inflationary pressures. Friedman's whole theory is fundamentally flawed since he thougth the government (central bank) really could control the money supply but this is just wrong since private credit and bullion production is controlled by the private sector demand for it. The government cannot, even if it wants to, really control the money supply.

>Even Freidnman
>Friedman....

wat

>bimetalism

debunked thousands of years ago under what we know today as "Gresham's Law"

Bad money always drives out the good sort of like how niggers always drive whites out of town.

There should be a "how do you do fellow conservatives" meme for Gary.