The Chinese Navy's plan of deploying 6 aircraft carriers including 2 nuclear-powered ones by 2025

China Likely to Become Aircraft Carrier Superpower Soon
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Good, I hope they invade your volcanic island soon. You'll pay for turning into an American puppet state.

Says the former American puppet state who has gone full retard

I'm not giving the HP traffic. We will kill the Chinese menace with you, Japan.

Is this related with your comment?
because of this?

We also stand with you brother

Unrealistic. Not by 2025 at least.

they work 22h a day in battery mine, thay also smaller...

>superpower
a

fucking

ramp

A FUCKING RAMP

chinese one

>Ramp

Top kek

Hmm. Six carriers.

How fucked are we? How will our society full of gay niggers compete with a completely homogenous nation of a billion people? And they have all the manufacturing power in the world? No seriously, somebody explain this to me.

Nope.

In the long run we're fucked.

>huffingtonpost.com
oops

Reminds me of the german "Plan Z".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_Z

internal fractures in their society are probably the best option

I'm sure this will reassure SE Asia of China's benign intentions in the South China Sea.

Yeah it's been tried over and over, it simply won't happen.

Most Chinese are Han and they simply obey the party line.

A revolution is unlikely.

An economic collapse would be a better method with some kind of trade embargos and banning of imports.

But they've already developed the infrastructure and know how so it's probably not feasible.

Their shipbuilding, avionics, missile defense, radar, etc are atrocious. Their "Navy" currently consists of surplus from Soviet Russia and a bunch shitty frigates on par with liberty ships of WWII.

All that has to happen is for Japan to go offensive and build that they are capable of with assistance/cooperation from the US - which as of this month is underway.

Paper tiger with paper money, zero ingenuity and a fuckload of vulnerabilities both internal and external.

They could have civil war and turn full capitalist before 2025.

>huffingtonpost.com
This was your first mistake.
Any ships they build are built with Chinese steel.
lol.

Not a chance, US will always have most aircraft carriers. Chyna can try all they want

>Most Chinese are Han and they simply obey the party line.
>A revolution is unlikely.
There are daily riots, stabbings, general mayhem in China. It's getting worse.
They're expanding the military because the only hope they have of avoiding a revolution is war.
Bad times ahead.

Good for you

Turkey is building an aircraft carrier
businessinsider.com/turkey-is-building-an-aircraft-carrier-2016-1

Why would Chinese need floating islands when they build real ones?

They should just use expertise they gained and just build artificial isle near Cuba or elsewhere on US coast and build a military base there. Nothing prohibits them.

The only thing that can possibly hold China back now is China. Just recently there were some cracks with unrest, but China doubled down on the cult of personality so they Gucci.

I love what the USA stands for but its shell of its former self. There is so much economic opportunity in Asia right now, that I'm planning on moving there.

From the keyboards of roaches.

>There is so much economic opportunity in Asia right now
Inform yourself before you go. You don't appear to have an clues in your Hello Kitty backpack.

China’s increase in debt is massive and unsustainable ...
washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/11/chinas...

Jun 20, 2016 · China’s increase in debt is massive and unsustainable. ... almost half of China’s debt is directly ... The recent increase in debt is unsustainable,

>American's have rail guns by 2020
hmm

except, you know, our military

>5 carriers in 9 years

Doesn't seem very likely.

Rail guns are 2005.

Overhyped. Learn more about it.

>Asia is only China

I would never live in China. I don't want to encounter death 5 times in a day.

WW3 by 2030

They're not going to revolt. They have nothing to revolt against and even if they did revolt and overthrow the communists do you think it would change anything in relation to their ascension into a superpower?

The only way to stop them is to destroy their economy. And that's going to be hard to do unless we impose trade embargos.

hmm

Cant legally do shit in international waters.

Because Islands are stationary. While aircraft carriers are mobile air command centers.
Meaning they can get their aircraft closer to targets in a first strike.

Still, as a nuke in the navy, i absolutely cannot wait to see how badly they fuck up installation of the reactors into their carriers.
Might be an even more deadly K19, and i wouldn't be surprised if they dump the ship in a shallow harbor and contaminate the surrounding area too.

3rd ship of Chinese aircraft carrier is under construction now

No. Lasers will remain only suitable for short range protection against missiles and artillery. Not comparable to being able to throw a cheap compositr shell at your enemy with insane speeds.

>homogeneous
Fucking kek implying we dont have millions of muslims and tibetans ready to stab us in the back given the chance

I get that they're behind in the tech tree, right now, I just think that's unlikely to be the case forever. They're a high IQ race, and the asian intelligence lends itself well to the skills needed in this century.

While I'm quite certain that African countries, or an African Union will never be able to outpace us technologically, I don't think that the Chinese are very far off.

Whatever cultural problems the Chinese may have: they're growing up around real industry, and real technology. They're going to have a generation of people, just like us, who grew up in a high tech society. But unlike us, they'll have direct access to extremely low cost manufacturing and fabrication. There's comparatively few people here who would be capable of organizing a manufacturing company, and most people would be lost trying to get anything manufactured en masse.

I think we're pretty fucked desu. I don't see us keeping our lead over them.

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>6 aircraft carriers
So, what, 2 small Nukes the size of the General de Gaulle and four diesel-powered helicopter carriers like Japan?

It's not a world-conquering threat, but it is a regional danger. 2 US carrier groups would barely be able to contain them if Japan keeps it's SDF homebound and the Phillipines, Indonesia, and Malaysia do nothing to beef up their own navies. India might help, but they'd still only be 3 carriers by 2025 and need one stationed permanently next to Pakistan.

you have to plan it well.

a lot of the copypasta about how "corrupt" china is is explicitly to prevent foreigners from profiting in china. there's plenty of profit to go around... for chinese. you can be certain they treat whites a step below other chinese in terms of honesty.

china is a great place. the anti china prop. is off the charts. but will YOU be able to profit is the real question. just a warning

>implying america's debt is not worse

Didn't the US build like 27 in 6 years?

implying we would give a shit if china was building an artificial island with an airbase 100 miles from our shores.

I mean you put some missiles on Cuba in the 60s and we still have that shit embargoed

Cant legally have proxy Islands around the world either. If you think the US would allow the chinks to build an artificial Island close to them you're deluded.

Also you can't just build them anywhere. You need a place with shallow water, a reaf or something.

They have absolutely no need for aircraft carriers. This is just a prestige move to increase their standing in the world and bully small countries.

The Soviets briefly entertained the idea too before they realized how fucking stupid it is. The only reason we have CVs is to guarantee sea lanes across the Atlantic and Pacific, but we also have the ability to send an expeditionary force. China doesn't.

The difference here is that the US is actually good at building things.

You have to build a cruiser with nuclear plant on board to have enough power for such weapon. USSR ran same projects too. Don't believe everything that mass media writes.

will dump american destroyers, tanks, aircraft carriers etc.

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>They're not going to revolt.
They are, every day.
>They have nothing to revolt against
25 million new workers per month.
>do you think it would change anything in relation to their ascension into a superpower?
It has hundreds of times before. Why do you think they're still backwards savages after 5000 years of civilization?

wrong

banging pipes with wrenches clearly doesn't help you understand force projection

chinese strategy previously mirrored russias. deep inland missile batteries backed p the contingent failure of coastal long range batteries in terms of defense. no one can ever invade russia OR china. but carriers allow china to shoot down, escort, etc. foreign aircraft escorting dignitaries or politicians. it basically gives them the ability to tip the balance of foreign power strugglesby destroying foreign aircraft and controlling/limiting the movement of potentially problematic actors without directly engaging enough foreign powers to spark a global conflict

case in point: in egypt our carriers simply sat offshore and shot down the airforces of the national government trying to kill terrorists and suppress the rebels. without the ability to deploy conventional forces, the riots and mobs quickly tipped the balance and the US was "totally not involved bro."

china seeks this power.

the fact they NEVER had tis power previously is more of a confirmation they're not aggressive. the fact hey seek this power now is proof that america can no longer contain events in the pacific.

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>embargoes from US and EU

Lel.
54% of China's imports are from ASEAN. They'll get their oil from SEA, their electronics from Japan and Taiwan, and they will rape Africa for their minerals.

>millions of muslims and tibetans ready to stab us in the back
>all we did was kill most of them and make the rest into slaves

>We will kill the Chinese menace with you, Japan.

Your terrorist country backed up China against Japan, and you fought against them just 5 years later in Korea, you fool.

Koreans, Japanese and Chinese must become one to get rid of American menace.

But diversity gives is our strength!

Even if China gets that many carriers who cares? We've been fighting carrier warfare for nearly a century and they haven't. They don't have the long experience or the traditions or culture of a modern naval power and they know exactly jack shit about deploying carriers, something western nations like the US, UK and France take for granted. Even Australia has more experience operating carriers than the Chinese have.

Aircraft carriers are overrated. China isn't interested in patrolling all the world's oceans: they just want to control their territory. That's why they're building airstrips in the Spratleys.

The Chinese are at the cutting edge (trailing very close to the US) in terms of drone technology. It's only a matter of time before the Chinks develop a hypersonic scramjet vehicle (something the burgers still haven't managed). I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinks get there first.

In other words, aircraft carriers will not be as important in the future of warfare, at least not for the Chinks.

>They're a high IQ race
And yet all the evidence says they're not even as smart as Canadians.
Look hard enough, and you'll see one, maybe two, scientific achievements. Can you name one?
>fireworks!1!

American education.

We put missiles on Cuba, since you tries to put missiles in Turkey. You got scared and chickened out and scrapped own missiles to not have permanent threat near own border.

So much for US "power"

>we have millions of muslims!
>it's still less than a 0.1% of the population

Good for those faggots.

no they're not

Dayyyuuummmmm China stronk bros, wtf I'm a gook now, really makes you stop to consider.

Everything China makes is shit. Even when they steal American tech the shit they reproduce is just fucking horrible. I don't understand it senpai.

>Economic and military interests all over the world
>They have absolutely no need for aircraft carriers
Not even a chicom what the fuck are you talking about.

i wasn't even trying to trigger you, just saying the effects of USSR trying to use cuba as basically a giant airbase/ missile platform are still being felt today, it'd be the same for china.

>implying China has a future of Warfare
They are going to slip up and give the US an excuse to completely remove them from the South China Sea. With the humiliation and economic losses that come with such a defeat their authoritarian regime will collapse and China will see decades of turmoil.

I for one cannot wait for this to happen and I hope we get a chance to help in sinking the chink navy.

their economy is like japans. industries are licensed by discrete categories for export or banned for export and the two rae not interchangeable. they mass produce shit products to send to us because they don't care if we get shit. products licensed for domestic markets generally face much higher quality standards. it has the dual effect of outpricing american goods in america, whilst preventing the prices of domestic products from rising, and preventing americans from selling their products in china.

get a fucking clue. this is exactly what the japanese were doing in the 70s

Chinese are perfectly able to reproduce the tech (hell, half of "american tech" is actually produced in china. They are the biggest electronic components producer in the world too.

The QUALITY of chinese goods comes not from inability, but not giving a fuck - they make cheap products to sell, lowering cost by any means and not caring if they explode in your face. And it works for them, allowing build up short term bussinesses with insane speed than switch to something else.

2.5%. They can still fuck shit up like the riots in 2009 and 2013

was that her dogger? wtf i hate china now!

Just look guys at this beauty, perfect engeenering, a presentation of the artictic ways of the humans-the perfect ship, has fuel to run 20 years, carries 100 horrnet planes, a large variety of missiles and a crew of 5000 people, always assisted with nuclear submarines and destroyers which are capable of delivering nuclear balistic as well as guided missiles too

Seriously, somebody tell me why I should be afraid of a country that can't build an escalator.
Their entire society is based on lying and cheating, and don't you think its a remarkable coincidence that the country with the highest IQ scores is also the one with endemic cheating and fraud in academia?
The whole country is a house of cards that will fall like a Chinese-built apartment block at any second.
They're a bunch of low IQ rice farming dysgenic retards with a Soviet era government.
Every Chinese military campaign in history that wasn't fought against other Chinese has been a joke.

scmp.com/news/china/money-wealth/article/1812115/roughly-3pc-chinese-students-us-expelled-low-grades-academic

>It’s not just the gaokao – it’s the SAT, the GRE, and a whole host of other exams. An estimated 90 per cent of all recommendation letters for Chinese applicants to United States universities are fake. Some 70 per cent of application essays are not written by students, and 50 per cent of grades transcripts are falsified.

ithenticate.com/plagiarism-detection-blog/bid/88747/The-Growing-Chinese-Plagiarism-Problem

>Of those 221, 43 were rejected for 40% or higher similarity, and 65 had 15%+ specific or 30% overall. So, all in all 108 rejected for self-plagiarism or other forms of plagiarism.

npr.org/2011/08/03/138937778/plagiarism-plague-hinders-chinas-scientific-ambition

>"In almost two years, we find about 31 percent of papers with unreasonable copy[ing] and plagiarism," she says, shaking her head. "This is true."

Their students are all cheating, their academics and scholars are all plagiarizing Western papers or faking their results. Are these your high IQ innovators who will redpill the world and carry the torch of civilization you yellow fever faggots?

I don't think America still has the spiritual fortitude to fight a war against people with a navy / guns / airpower

I don't see it happening, the country can't even stomach another turkey shoot in the sand people countries.

dumb kangaroo is dumb

the philippines is on the brink of war wth malaysia. all of them hate china, but they know they can't win against china, so they pick fights with each other instead.

duterte is on the verge of launching assassination squads to cover the south of the philippines and eastern malaysia in blood.

china is the only actor with force in the region. good luck convincing americans to invade china because of something the philippines did. we might not know the difference between arabia and iraq but we do know the difference between the phils and china.

china has already won the region. that's why they were willing to gnore the court ruling. our international courts have no more sway

How cute.

Fastest plane with crew in human history

cute?

What about the second? I only heard about the first one, three years ago.

>100 Hornets
TACAIR usually indicates 52. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

We just haven't had a clear enemy to fight against in a long time

In conflicts today you can't tell civilians from combatants

If we went balls to the wall army against army I'm sure it have much more backing than having an army fight against guerilla militants for a decade straight

are they desalting the deck with saltwater?

do you idiots just mindlessly repost the same shit over and over? are you reddit bots?

of course whites get screwed in china. why would they let a foreigner make money from THEIR land?

if an arabian prince with millions of dollars tried to make money off of me I'd fucking rob him blind.

Haven't the new Gerald R. Ford class US aircraft carriers been breaking down?

Who invited you Land Locked?

you haven't met our new servicemen. niggers, central american immigrants, half of whom literally are from gangs to get training, who regularly smuggle weapons out of depots, many of whom are OBESE women..

we can't fight. fucking forget it.

I guarantee you the mine one of those carriers takes a hit laqueesha is gonna run and hide in her bunk or the shower and ramon is gonna do his best to shirk his responsibilities while the ships sink

let alone a land invasion

No, they get the salt out of the water before, they also use some kind of shampoo to clean the deck I believe

yes. So you know what we're going to do? Build a bigger, better aircraft carrier. It will be the Bismark of air craft carriers.

cucked

The Chinese aren't a clear enemy though, yes, they're a foreign power with a proper military, but Americans aren't going to see them as an enemy for exactly one reason: they don't have an intention or an ability to touch the US. I don't think the cucks will spontaneously grow a spine over some islands in a distant part of the ocean.

And to be honest, I'm not sure that every American carrier would survive - that alone would make the politicians shy away from it. The casualties can get too high for too little payoff. Besides, the Chinese can recruit more and build more, and a war would be a great way to rally nationalism in the chingchongs - your victory is too painful, their loss is too minor.

Pretty sure America's going to back down senpai

No, the perfect strike carrier [italics]today[today] is not the perfect carrier of WWII. Not a fleet carrier, rather, almost no fleet ability. Conventional powered, cruise 16 knots, little compartmentalization/armor beyond two large hangers two lifts. Capable of cat-launching SU-34 size aircraft - ICCALs cat system, turbine divert. Nimitz size, just fatter, cheaper, less technology and lighter.

Unless we were directly attacked, I agree. The public would never support a US first strike leading to conventional warfare against a country where the iPhone is made.

The Bismark was sunk after less than 10 months at sea.

Hardly, the technology is impressive. A railgun can sink a carrier with a $25K round at 125 miles away. That's fairly cost effective. There is currently no defense against a slug travelling at mach 6 (4,500mph) rekking your shit through sheer velocity.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1b8wh2Ul4

Aircraft carriers confirmed for being a projection of power from nations inhabited by men with small and or mutilated penises.
What is airborne refuelling?

guys let us all take a moment and enjoy this beaty of American engeeniring, just look at that sexy titanium body and those giant revolutionar ramjet engines, it was so fast and flied to high that no soviet rocket could hit it, it could fly 3.5 times faster than sound