Who's the villian again?

Who's the villian again?

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Hillary Clinton.

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>Misspelling jobs to make it seem like an illegitimate problem

Sup Forumsmblr is alive and well I see

Blowing up trains is just the 'strawman' so the reader knows who the villain is.

Otherwise Redskull's arguments are just too persuasive!

Republicans.

>He's not a villain because he gives a good speech

Please don't tell me you're THAT easily manipulated, OP.

I can't decide whether your an idiot or just underage.

Faggets who keeps posting the same page 1 week later

The American way

You OP, it was you all along.

>Believing what a dictator had to say
Hitler and Stalin also said a bunch of stuff just so they could get followers.
The real problem here is that we will never see Red Skull using the same recruiting tactic on lefties.

Intersectional feminism

Ah, this thread.

I'm certain we'll have a ton of polite conversation and productive arguments about this.

That's really not the point, now is it? Nobody's seriously arguing that Red Skull isn't a bad guy - of course he's a bad guy. He's an actual, literal Nazi. The problem is that the writer is using him to strawman people with whom he disagrees with, politically, by having an actual, literal Nazi regurgitate a caricature of conservative rhetoric in the hopes of delegitimizing it. After all, you don't have to have a discussion when your adversaries are actual, literal Nazis.

Can you not read between the comic's lines? It's pretty obviously white people.

Well that's what happens when you have a political climate where people support a guy whose rhetoric is startlingly similar to actual, literal Nazis.

You kind of made your own bed there.

>Trump is the conservative's fault
>Not of the completely retarded side of the left

You mean just like actual Nazis try to bandwaggon on these movements in the real world? This sort of stuff has been happening this entire time in germany.

How is it similar, user?

Maybe if Merkel did something about all the rapefugees instead of telling the parents and husbands of all the molested/raped girls that they are racists...

Please don't confuse me for a Trump supporter - but "Republicans are Nazis" is hardly a new allegation unique to our current nominee. When it looked like Cruz was on track to be the nominee, people were calling him a Nazi. People called Dubya a Nazi. It's Nazis all the way down with you people. The left thrives on characterizing it's political opponents as Nazis and has for decades - but the moment someone on the right points out their totalitarian behavior, some asshole calls Godwin's Law and claims to have won the debate because the first person to mention Nazis loses.

Funny how it never seems to apply to them.

Find me the quote were the leader of a major democratic nation was thick enough to say anything even remotely that stupid. I'll wait.

Blah blah Godwin's law sure but Trump's angle is entirely "This country! This COUNTRY. THIS country. Outsider BAD. BE SCARED. THIS COUNTRY."

And I'm sure you're not defending Dubya. This current situation is almost entirely the fault of his administration. "We have to fight a war! THIS COUNTRY" and then we ruin Iraq for completely non-existent reasons that have to be justified after the fact. An entire country is in ruins and people act confused when the entire region resorts to

>Outsider BAD

I like that it's gotten to the point where you can't be anti-criminal(illegal immigrants that are here illegally)without being LITERALLY HITLER. Thanks for that leftists, we have almost reached the point where nazi will lose any meaning due to your continual lowering of the bar that someone has to leap over to be called one.

Slippery Slope, my friend.

>it's a Sup Forums plays politics in a cartoon board episode
What did he mean by this?

>I like that it's gotten to the point where you can't be anti-criminal(illegal immigrants that are here illegally)without being LITERALLY HITLER.
He constantly mentions Latinos regardless of whether they're criminals or not.

"Oh there's this judge who is after me because of my shitty sham college. Did you know he's MEXICAN?"

Don't pretend this isn't a trend in his rhetoric. He knows exactly what he's doing, and the fact that you seem to miss it is worrying.

>Constantly

Plenty of other threads you could go into

Oh I'm not voting for him, I just felt like pointing out the stupidity that is trying to have any kind of discussion about immigration without getting called Hitler if you don't support the let them all in, even the criminals, especially the criminals, side of the argument. Because there are apparently only two sides, the one I mentioned and GAS THE SPICS, RACE WAR NOW!

bullshit claims

As expected from the left, go suck bernies dick more you cuck

>what is collateral damage
>implying you can just throw a country into civil war without fucking everything up

What are you, an SJW? It's a comic for Christ's sake.
>unrionically using delegitimatizing

>Blah blah Godwin's law sure

You know, it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis, but it'd be nice if you would just come out and say so rather than continually try to delegitimize my position with accusations that I'm literally a Nazi because I associate with literal Nazis. It's incredibly frustrating.

Of course, I suppose it's your goal to frustrate. Again, you don't have to have a discussion if you shut down discussion and that lets you pretend like you've "won" the argument. Tell me, again, how you've totally DESTROYED me by refusing to talk out our disagreement like adults. That's sure to make you popular with anonymous assholes on the internet.

>If I throw a buzzword at him (incorrectly used, but hey who cares) his argument means nothing!

People usually have more then two brain cells user. I'm sorry if you can't see how obviously the writer of this issue is throwing shit at conservatives.

>You know, it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis, but it'd be nice if you would just come out and say so rather than continually try to delegitimize my position with accusations that I'm literally a Nazi because I associate with literal Nazis. It's incredibly frustrating.
I didn't say you're a Nazi. I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi. Don't hide behind "Godwin's Law" so you could ignore what I say and go, "You said Nazi! I win!"

>Of course, I suppose it's your goal to frustrate. Again, you don't have to have a discussion if you shut down discussion and that lets you pretend like you've "won" the argument. Tell me, again, how you've totally DESTROYED me by refusing to talk out our disagreement like adults. That's sure to make you popular with anonymous assholes on the internet.
Right, if I'm not doing Godwin's Law, I'm just trolling. Here's a gold medal for your mental gymnastics.

Come on now, there is some artful trolling going on here, respect the zone of performance and take your bush league stuff some place else.

Yeah, it's bullshit because Trump said so, right? Who cares if it's an actual concern raised by a real judge. The judge isn't TRUMP.

If Trump has nothing to hide, he'd just let himself be investigated instead of calling the American born American raised judge a Mexican just because of his last name.

That's not a strawman, that's guiilt by association or ad hominem.

He is letting himself be investigated.

>rhetoric
No they are not even vaguely similar in anyway.
Trump hasn't advocated harming anyone but ISIS.
Mexicans and Muslims don't have a legal or moral right to be in this country.
Not allowing them to enter isn't harming them in anyway.

The important thing is you've found a way to feel superior to both straw-sides.

...Stalin was a lefty. I think the fact you didn't know that is telling.

>I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi

Saying "Nazi's believed that so it's bad" means fuck all. Judge the beliefs on their own merit, not by others who believed the same. Also remember that the world today is different to the world back then. Terrorism didn't exist in the form we know it today. His position on immigration is understandable considering the shit that's happened in recent years.

>it's cool if you don't want to discuss the reprehensible trend in civic discourse where Democrats, leftists and the social justice echo chamber characterizes anyone who disagrees with them as literally Nazis
Not him but it's just the other side of the coin of every American Democrat getting called a communist/socialist/whiteguiltfag. Or if you want a Sup Forums example, everybody who has a right-wing opinion is Sup Forumsstormfront and everybody who has a left-wing one is tumblr/SJW/cuck
Hyperbole is quite en vogue these days, it prevents people from having to make any form of intellectual or tribal compromise.

It is frustrating but let's not pretend it's one-sided in any way.

Megan is never coming back Randall.

>Who's the villian again?
Marvel.
The answer is always Marvel.

>I said Trump's rhetoric resembles that used by Nazi.
No its not.
He isn't advocating putting anyone in camps or exterminating anyone.
The Jews were not harming anyone and didn't pose any threat to Germany.

Trump is asking that a fountain of cartel violence, rape, kidnapping, sex trafficking, drugs, entire police stations being fucking massacred be closed off.

Truly the best answer.

I think your reading comprehension is pretty poor.
He's saying the issue is that Marvel doesn't show that lefties are just as subject to that type of discourse, not that it isn't the case irl.

Anybody remember all the teapartiers and who used to paint Hitler stashes and the black president who thought health care should be affordable? Conservatives through the same mud, it just doesn't stick as well.

Why? The reasons lefties don't get painted as Nazis is because the right has monopoly on homophobia, racism and scapegoating immigrants.

>Funny how it never seems to apply to them.
Yeah cause, no Republican demagogue has ever called a liberal a "Commie."

He's still a villain but he genuinely sounds like it's something dear to him. And he's actually not wrong either. He's probably telling them this to win them over for a plot but he's on the right track

Yeah, and the Right just calls us Communists anyway.

Everybody gets compared to some weird, unfavorably, occasionally outright unrelated historical group. History has many examples of this.

Lefties do get painted as Nazis, you know all those people who point out it's the National SOCIALIST party. Despite the fact that National Socialism isn't the same thing as Marxist Socialism and Nazi's were against Marxism. Though honestly Stalin was worse than Hitler, the right needs to use that more for mudslinging.

It's not scapegoating or racism to protect your citizens from people who believe in the same cause as the fucking monsters who did this... timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/2000-killed-in-Nigeria-but-world-failed-to-react/articleshow/45844273.cms
Mass murder supporting shit stain.
Burn the fuck in hell!

>"This country! This COUNTRY. THIS country.
In case this was unclear to you, he is running to be President of this country.
Not the Grand Sombrero of Mexico, or Child Raper in Chief of Syria.

THIS COUNTRY.

>mfw there are actual nazis here
>mfw retarded Americans shout nazism over mild nationalism that make even the new globalist Social Democrats, much less the old school patriotic ones, seem like ultras in comparison.
The worst thing about Cape Comics is stuff like this that no one outside a small American clique can relate to in any way.
It makes Dave Sim's rants look subtle in comparison.

That user is clearly underage. Nice jourb there homestar.

If you really think Red Skull cares about making America or Europe better, you're a fucking idiot.

There are plenty of leftist racists. Shit why do you think they want more immigration? Democrats are the party of the nanny state, more poor uneducated non-whites voting Democrat for more entitlements is just what they want.

So this shit is going to be an everyday thing now.

Immigrants net contributions to the economy. If you grant amnesty to the 11 million unlawful immigrants then they would be criminals anymore. Its a lot cheaper then building a wall
Would that make you happy?

...or is there some other reason you hate immigrants? Racist fuck.

clas.berkeley.edu/research/immigration-economic-benefits-immigration

It's possible he cares, his idea of better is just different from yours, mine, or most people's.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

>Saddam had a 2 Million+ body count of mostly his own citizens...
>Non existent reason...

Nah man it's not Dubya's fault it's Regan's fault helping extreme Islamic groups get into power and then supplying them with weapons was a shit idea.

Pretty much, for a couple of weeks, until the next "controversy". Say what you want about Marvel, they sure give crossborders excuses to shipost.

Yes

>The Jews were not harming anyone and didn't pose any threat to Germany.
Eh, well the leaders of the attempted communist coup on Weimar Germany in 1918 were almost all from the jewish community, it's a big part in why political anti-semitism became widespread outside of Austrian territory (where Hitler picked it up).
But really Trump's rethoric isn't at all any closer to Hitlers any more than the average Liberals is.

Do you genuinely believe this was a humanitarian mission?

Did they ever do a What If Red Skull won comic?

>there's no crime or racism or religious intolerance

...

please don't use the term "us" that makes it sound like you have a theist approach to party politics.

I don't hate them.
I just want the government to know EXACTLY who every single individual is that enters this country.
If we just let people walk thru the gate without taking their name down what is to stop Mexican pedos and serial killer that are on the run in Mexico from coming here where no one will be looking for them.

It literally says at the beginning of that article that it needs to be managed efficiently. It's not being managed at all right now. Immigration can be good, but only if the immigrants have something they can contribute to this country and truly desire to be Americans. The flood of poor, uneducated laborers from the south has only been a negative, as they are nothing but a financial and civil burden on the states they live in.

>thinking pedos or serial killers would flee mexico
its like the happy hunting grounds

user, that was a pretty blatant troll you replied to. The "racist" comment should have tipped you off if nothing else.

Who are >>they?

Minorities?
Democrats?

Also, fyi, its the poor uneducated who overwhelmingly prefer Trump. Put down the meth and moonshine buddy.

pbs.org/newshour/rundown/trump-overwhelmingly-leads-rivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans/

What a load of shit.
fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

Do you genuinely believe it was JUST ABOUT THE OIL MAN! Certainly didn't give the president a shot at re-election or a great legacy.

Possibly not, but a grave humanitarianneed was solved and those 2 million crying out for justice have been given peace so I don't give as rat's fucked ass if we got oil in return for our efforts.

There's only one race, no religions as they get in the way of loyalty to the state, and fear of getting killed by Red Skulls secret police brings crime down. So yes all those things would be true.

It will be a happy hunting ground here pretty much also when no one knows you are even in the country.

>It's not being managed at all right now.
Do some people genuinely believe that?

His idea of a better world is one where he has absolute power and uses it to make everyone else suffer.

>People knowingly break law
>reward them

Hmm, why would anyone have a problem with that? And it's not just the ebul white mans who have a problem with it, real ass immigrants, the ones that went through the process, the ones that earned their citizenship, want those fuckers gone too. If you want immigration reform, implement it, then put those people at the head of the list for the new citizenship process. But don't reward them for being criminals.Don't try to force amnesty because real change is hard and doesn't happen over night. I don't agree with a bunch of shit your side is for, but do you see me making machine guns in my garage? No, I'm fighting that bullshit by donating to people trying to fix the problem instead of slapping a band aid on then ignoring the real problem.

The problem is the victims equate to evidence.

In Mexico entire schools of people have disappeared at the command of a mayor. The POLICE did that.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Iguala_mass_kidnapping

That's not going to fly in Murika.

Wouldn't it be more efficient for RS to wear a mask there?
Remove the fact that he's a talking red deformity, and he's not sawing anything particularly unreasonable

Did you read the study? Managed doesn't mean keeping people out, it means creating opportunities for assimilation and social mobility. It means education and work opportunity.

Actually immigrants pay more taxes based on their income than most other groups: usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes

The metastudy i linked to showed immigration doesn't lower wages and increases the availability of other service industries (like home cleaning or nannying).

There is very little empirical data to suggest immigrants are more likely to commit crimes or have any negative social or economic impacts.

That's why liberals are calling you bigots. You spew and suck up this trump nonsense about immigrants being this big problem, but you do it with no real evidence.

So whats the real reason you hate them? Hmmm?

>We represent working class Americans!
>What? You don't even have a PhD in Gender Ethnic Sensitivity Guilt? HAHA DUMBASS!

There's a lot of reasons, but OHMAHGAHDTHERESIRAQISDYING isn't one of them. Nobody gave a fuck like nobody gives a fuck about most murderous regimes.
And yeah oil was one reason, considering there's established collusion between the Bush family and oil companies aswell as the Saudi reigning family.

>has monopoly on homophobia, racism and scapegoating immigrants.
It's like you've never actually interacted with leftists outside of the internet. I used to be very left and all of this stuff is common.
>Homophobia
Very common among regular Liberals when LGBT-activist types aren't present and there's often a general unease when they are. Doubly so in the machismo-type communist/anarchist camps (become more so where the internal politics are "socially conscious" as well, they've started shittalking all male homos nowadays).
>racism
Extremely common but often only shown in a roundabout way, for example ever notice how they all suddenly move away to a 100% their-own-ethnicity area when they have kids and want a "good school" for them?
Some of them will admit as much if they trust you or they've had a few drinks though.
>scapegoating immigrants
Happens as well, but it's mainly targeted at European ones and has a pretense of being "moral" in nature.
The most hateful stuff i've ever heard in real life was a Londoner, with no actual relation to the Balkans, frothing at the mouth over how evil the Serbs are and the extreme glee showed over their civvies being bombed.

Time will tell if the region is better off or not. Vengeance usually doesn't solve much.

Not really, what gave you that idea?
I think you're confusing him with Apocalypse or Darkseid.

>POL FAG SPOTTED
bro that's right wing extremist group site. Go back to your own board.

splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/federation-american-immigration-reform

The other study was from UC Berkeley and based on academic research. False equivalency

The border patrol has been directed to simply release people they catch crossing the border illegally. A second surge of children from South America happened due to thr lax security on the border. Repeat offenders are allowed back into the country. An illegal immigrant murdered a girl in California who had been deported 5 times before. Border control is in complete shambles, but not because it's underfunded, it's because the law is not being enforced. Please explain how the border is secure if you believe it so.

>Red Skull makes a speech about the immigration crisis, making no allusion to non-white Americans and instead solely focusing on ILLEGAL immigrants and refugees
>it's so sound that they have to fill the next panel with hate crimes unrelated to anything that he just said to keep people seeing him as the antagonist

Can grey morality just not exist in fiction anymore?

See
fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers

Mexicans are not magical creatures who can feed a family of 12 off a minimum wage job, which the rest of the time you would call an "unlivable wage" for even a single person, without requiring MASSIVE amounts of welfare and social services.

>but you do it with no real evidence.
Because terrorism and the threat of Islam isn't evidence right? Piss off.