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I want to raspberry her tummy

I like Joy, she has goat pits

Cancer

it's shit

This is the state of east asian music.

Shitty music, and resorting to pimping out their artists for obsessive fans.

Good one.

I don't know where to begin

That K-pop is shitty overfabricated music, with fake artists that have undergone numerous surgeries before they even become famous.

The artists fame is totally dependent on their label, and true talent is basically non-existent.

K-pop is mostly boy or girl bands, with no talent except selling their image and sex appeal to 13-15 year olds.

They are the cancer of music. I hope to god, this shit doesn't hit in the US.

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This level of lack of self awareness is just funny, not going to lie.

>small article in the 33rd page of a shitty celebrity magazine
You think this is supposed to be fame in america?

Exactly my point.
Fans care more about their looks than music.
Fucking garbage.

AYY LMAO

American musicians are to a greater extend not industry plants, and develop their own style by themselves.

Most musicians today, famous musicians at least, are emerging from the internet. Not from huge industry labels.

The US also doesn't have any more boy/girl bands with exaggerated and stupid choreograph dancing and shit.

Many artists in the US aren't exactly pretty either. Apart from a few girls, most famous musicians aren't pretty at all. They are just average.

Plastic surgery is nowhere near as high in the US as is in Korea.

and most plastic surgery in the US is liposuctions and shit. We don't fucking modify our entire face structure like they do in Korea.

American music industry is way different.

katy perry is also popular, but her music is shit

kpop is just american pop but shitter

>literally "whiter than u muhammad" music edition
You're close to sk in terms of ps per capita btw

>jimmy kimmel

You do know that a lot of people get to go on jimmy kimmel right?

Didn't the fucking metal baby or what not made an appearance in colbert.

It's funny how k-pop fans are making it look like they have broken the US market, for one hit a couple of liver performances, and one song that needed desiigner to take off.

>they don’t know about IU

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>literally "whiter than u muhammad" music edition
What? When did I say that?

korean artists just undergo so much more operations that they look plastic.

American ps is mostly liposuctions, breast implants, lips, and nose. It's nowhere as extreme as in korea where they do jaw and all that shit.

But anyways, PS isn't even my biggest problem. But the cancerous music culture, and just talentless dolls.

You keep posting this, but it's not making a point at all.

I already explained to you.
These guys are nowhere near as popular as you in your k-pop bubble think they are.

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Sure thing

Most Koreans just do plastic surgery on their eyelids and that’s it.
source: am korean

They don't.

Even if you took all face and hair operations, they still surpass the US.

most cosmetic surgeries in Korea are shit related to the skin and blepharoplasties, of course you'd know this if you had read the ISAPS reports, they even have data for 2016 and 2015 but for way less countries.

kpop moar lyk kpoop amirite

why do kpop fans feel like they have to defend their genre/artist so much?

usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/12/22/ranked-50-biggest-songs-2017/934344001/

Top 50 songs, not one is k-pop (THank god).

There is lots of hipster artists, and unknown people in there, where is BTS?

Ignore him. He is a notorious proxy netoyu LARping as an American

>most cosmetic surgeries in Korea are shit related to the skin and blepharoplasties
Same goes for pretty much every country in the list.
Most plastic surgeries are not for vanity.

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He is a notorious prox...

>My gf is listening to kpop
Is there any way to save her? Or should I dump her? She was talking about some Korean faggot that killed himself, for days.

I miss old good korean music, not shuriveled slut shaking butts for no good reason.

No saving man.
You have to become a trap to compete with those guys.

My point still stands, most either do eyelid surgery or maybe jawline. And they don’t go through multiple operations to the point where they’re look like pic related

I don't get how people find this cake face assembly line look attractive.

K poop wine plastic shit made.

Those are extreme cases, and they are mostly old people desperately trying to hold onto their glory days.

Korean artists are at their prime and already getting numerous surgeries. sad.

She listens to womyn ones mostly. They are all equally shit. She is great other than having an immature taste in music. She is just 20, so I hope she will grow out of it soon.

The same face. So creepy.

people sperging out about kpop always cracks me up. you'd think one of these idols fucked their mom or something

But like I already said.

I don't even care so much about the PS.

The whole industry plants, and label academies, and shit.

Boy/girl bands that are popular simply because of their image.

shitty performances with outdated choreograph dancing. (Who in the US is even doing that anymore?)

I was happy when one direction died. Please let there not be more boy/girl bands, or worst korean boy/girl bands.

I think they're mostly weebs tbqh. It's really personal to them. Something about defending the Emperor's honor lmoa

I don't have anything against the artists personally.

It's the whole music culture. It's really bad. I just don't want it in the US.

Also, it's funny to see K-pop fans reaching, and making these ridiculous claims about their favorite band taking the US by storm, when the most they did was a lucky strike like Psy and done.

Psy was much bigger than BTS. But I don't mind psy. He doesn't seem like a bag of silicone or an industry plant.

When people think of Kpop, they usually think of boy/girl bands but rarely notice other solo artists or duos that are actually not manufactured bullshit. I would give examples if you want.

It's not.

I hate weebs. It's about defending american music culture and industry.

I'm totally for those people.

I'm not against Korean artist period. If one of them came to the US and made it, then congrats.

But these fucking industry plants, effeminate, 16-member boy and girl bands, with absolutely no talent or music is truly terrible for the country.

Kpop will never be mainstream in America and it’s not like American music industry isn’t already corrupt

>japan vs korea

It's always those two no?
I hate j-pop and k-pop.

East asian music, and music culture is just cancer.

>It's about defending american music culture and industry.
sounds like a bigger waste of time than Sup Forums. sort yourself out m8

They do remove facial bone.
They cut the face and remove the bone of face this is As like constructing and manufacturing like a prodact.
That is why they has the same face line.
Regardless man or women.

>Kpop will never be mainstream in America
Amen!

>it’s not like American music industry isn’t already corrupt
Nowhere near as corrupt as in korea.

In america, the top artists right now, are mostly internet rappers like lil' pump, migos, 21 savage, uzi, etc.

Plus other pop artists that have been grinding since the disney channel days, like miley, selena, etc.

Labels don't have the same pull as in Korea. Thank god.

American pop music died a long time ago and has been replaced by a grotesque jewish shitshow f@m. There's nothing left to save.

We are here to discuss international shit no?
That's what I'm doing?

Can you not take an opposing opinion?

>jewish shitshow

can you guys make up your mind?

It's either jews, or niggers, etc.

American music is highly diverse. Country is one of the most popular genres in the country.

We don't have boy bands, either, which is great.

A few days ago a member of a former boy band committed suicide due to depression. His corporation did basically nothing prior and his psychiatrist told him it’s just his feelings. It’s incredibly toxic.

It's actual music.

Not the same formulaic catchy, boy/girl band shit.

I used to listen korean musics and I kinda agree with what you guys think. When I hear korean music and find out what does this song mean, korean artists always make songs about "LOVE" or "BROKE UP WITH GIRLFIREND OR BOYFRIEND". I know they have to sell out their albums, but this is too much. It's not blame on korean songs, but I think korean singers should be proud of their jobs and make songs with different topics. This is my opinion about korean song.

just think about how ridiculous you are being by getting so defensive over kpop. swap in brazilian pop music for korean pop and think about if you'd react the same way.
everyone copies american music, it doesn't need your help to defend it

We're talking about pop music here, other genres or indie circles are irrelevant here.

This is american pop music. This is what the next generation look up to. This is your future.
youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs

Furthermore, there are many good single singers in korea, but I wonder why only boy or girl groups become popular.

They don't make their songs. That is the problem.

These people are given everything by their labels. What makes you think that they actually write their songs?

Is it a coincidence that none of them break the mold and sing about something different.

>the current state of k-pop

Because groups are usually signed to huge music companies, particularly the Big Three(JYP, SM, YG), with some exceptions. These companies spend a shit ton to promote their work and it’s easier and cheaper to promote a huge group than to promote one person that might be a hit or miss

Brazilian pop is nowhere near as bad, as far as I know. They don't have the same label culture that korea has. They probably write their own songs.

I wouldn't know, until I'm exposed to brazilian pop.

At least she makes her own music. She has a unique personality. Something she built.

I'm not judging what is moral or not. It's music, I don't give a shit what's moral or not.

I care about the integrity of the artists, the work they put in, their authenticity.

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some do write their own lyrics and produce some of the tracks. it's like hiphop, there's no live instruments involved so it's a split between artists performing lyrics and producers making the beat

The reasons is because music is secondary to the actual musicians.

Korea is so repressed, porn is banned, that they find their sexual outlet in musicians and boybands.

Korean boy bands, are crazy. They have like 8 to 12 members, this is so girls can have their choosing and favorites.

it's not because they are actually talented, and have something to bring to the group.

They are all bundle up together, without even knowing each other.

The beatles knew each other. They were friends, the OG boy band. But they weren't nowhere near as cancerous.

I'm OK with producers making the beats.

But rappers in the US write their own songs.

I very much doubt that is the case in korea. These people are trained for years and shapen up to be "performers." whatever it is that they write, it's just dribble being regurgitate from the label brainwashing them.

No originality. Just formulaic shit.

i just told you some do. that's why bts is so popular, they write all their own shit

How do you know that they write their own stuff? I very much doubt it.

I obviously can't be 100% sure. But when the labels surround their entire artistic development, it call their entire image and art into question.

The choreograph dancing also adds another layer of fakeness.

I'd rather have artists dancing naturally, bobbing their heads or whatever. Not this fake shit.

Also, BTS isn't "so popular."
They had 15 minutes with the desiigner song and collaboration with the other famous DJ.

But their original stuff is still very niche to the k-pop community.

This. K-Poop is an abomination. Kim Jong Un needs to nuke Seoul now.

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>The choreograph dancing also adds another layer of fakeness
Personally, I find it pretty impressive even if it is “fake”. That’s why there’s so many dance groups. Add that with singing, it makes it less boring.
>I'd rather have artists dancing naturally, bobbing their heads or whatever. Not this fake shit.
That might be fine for solo or duos, but in groups it’ll look like a mess and they’ll look retarded

people ignore all your other threads but seem to get extremely angry at this one

american pop stars have ghost writers and paid song lyricists write their songs all the time and no one gives a shit. funny how that's such a problem when it comes to kpop

>less boring
The music should be the main attraction.
If you need the dancing for people to care, you are doing something wrong.

I find it funny that k-pop music videos, are better selling than the audio. It goes to show the priorities of their fans. Not music just dancing and pretty faces.

>That might be fine for solo or duos, but in groups it’ll look like a mess and they’ll look retarded
That's because they insist in having so many members. stop pushing 12 people that have no chemistry and have never met each other into groups. It's just fake.

Boy bands should be a group or friends or something.

That's because you can't really prove it.

And everytime, someone finds out, there is a huge backlash. Stop saying nobody cares, because it's not true.

Drake's entire career has been tarnished by rumors of him using ghost writers even though, those allegations were never prove, AFAIK.

they only care when ranking him as an MC. as an artist / entertainer noone cares and lists him in their top ten for consistently topping the charts for a decade. stop talking about shit you clearly have no idea about

>koreans
>having an ass
Heh

Please appreciate this good Korean music
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because most people, are not invested in the industry.

They hear a song they like, and buy it.
The guy makes money that way, but he gets shit from people who in the industry and fans that are attentive to those things.

Also, his career has indeed suffered. His peak is long gone. His career just free falled after the allegations. his new albums wasn't as popular.

like I said, at least he's authentic.

authentically retarded

yep, authentic nonetheless.
and he is part of an original movement of internet rappers. They made themselves.

Not label came to fake their way to popularity.

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you do realize record labels already got caught hiring overseas stream miner factories to inflate streaming numbers for chart rankings right. you're an unbelievable naive idiot if you think there's any authenticity in the mainstream US music scene. once the internet rappers get signed to a major they're just as, if not more, manufactured than the acts from kpop

Decent music + dancing + cute boys that drive girls crazy = cash

A great example of this is that retarded cash me outside girl. Someone brought her in, made her do some shitty songs and be in music videos, and news she’s fucking rich. Honestly, that makes me angrier than manufactured kpop

yeah she got signed to atlantic for half a million i think? US labels pull whatever "artist" is trending in social media and cash in as quickly as they can before their meme-status popularity dies out

K-pop is literally their substitute to pornography, since they stupidly banned it from their country. Sejung can't relieve his loneliness and stress on Brazzers like everyone else in the world, so he has to jack it to K-pop singers.

I'm not talking about authenticity on the part of the labels. I don't trust the labels, and know their business is to make money.

American labels mining views on streams is one thing.

American labels taking young people and shaping them to be fake musicians, and forcing them down the throat of everyone.

American artists are for the most part, genuine talented artists that got to where they are by shear grinding or raw talent.

Korean artists go into this little academies where they are shapen to be performers. They are then place in a band with a bunch of strangers, and made to perform.

That is toxic, and I don't want it in the US.

this.

That just isn't true. Can you give an example?
In what way are artists influenced by the labels to change their style, music, personality, etc.

The labels help promote their music, and restrict their music releases to a certain schedule.

But the music is still done by the artist. They may gain access to better equipment, and resources, but the creators are still them.

How is this a great example?
How is the "cash me outside girl" an industry plant?

She gained meme status on her own, and capitalized on it, by making music and hanging around with rappers.

If the labels then decided to sign her is another thing. She is nothing but a meme, and underground rapper.

She is not famous, and the label can do squat shit about it.

Talent moves music in the US, not the labels. The labels can help promote a song. But they don't make the songs.

>American labels taking young people and shaping them to be fake musicians,
yes they do, it's called artist development.
>and forcing them down the throat of everyone.
artist promotion? that's the whole fucking point of a record label. what the fuck are you even talking about
>American artists are for the most part, genuine talented artists that got to where they are by shear grinding or raw talent
same with kpop, you'd be an absolute retard to say it doesn't take talent to do what they do. difference between US and Kpop is that performers usually "grind" in-house versus independently. and you're acting like it takes a lot of talent to make it as a popular act in the US these days. it does not, all these mumble-rapping faggots proves that
>That is toxic, and I don't want it in the US.
that's fine, your opinion

Not against you, but what makes you think Korean music culture will get to or affect the US’s?

>ut the music is still done by the artist. They may gain access to better equipment, and resources, but the creators are still them.
this is sort of true after the streaming model became the dominant focus in the US, where acts take more of a partnership/distribution deal with majors rather than sign directly under them.
before that the record had the dominant input in artist creativity where they tried to "guess" which would be the hot new sound without all the analytics at hand.

It doesn't take effort to be a musician if you have the talent. These mumble rappers are doing something right for continuing to hit the top spots in the billboards.

>yes they do, it's called artist development.
>artist promotion?
You are seriously not understanding the difference between promotion, and complete control of the music industry in korea.

Even koreans admit, that the labels have control over what's popular and what's not. that is not the case in the US.
youtube.com/watch?v=RuFjcKlRcIY

Artists development isn't the same as making the fucking artists. The US has actual artists that are then "developed" to become make them more profitable, in the sense that they ask them to stop pointing guns and what not.

Lil' Pump, the migos, and many other artists are making the same music they were making when being independent. the difference is that they are a little less brazen about being trap or gangster, because it makes them very difficult to sell.

This is not the same as teaching them how to be artists and musicians. They already are, by the time labels pick them up.

>same with kpop, you'd be an absolute retard to say it doesn't take talent to do what they do.
There is a difference between regurgitators/performers and actual musicians.

There is a difference between people selling sex, good looks, nice dances and actual musicians.

>It doesn't take effort to be a musician if you have the talent
alright, you're an absolute retard. enough of this