How powerful is this guy in the MCU?

How powerful is this guy in the MCU?

Could he beat Black Widow? Hawkeye?

How would he fare against Captain America or Black Panther?

> ez win vs black widow
>hard win vs hawkeye (has to limp back to his apartment and losses consciousness
> hard loss vs captain hydra (MCU cap is near superhuman with jet li movies lol)
>hard loss vs black panther (same reasoning as cap)

Punisher has a better chance than him.

He's about Black Widow/Hawkeye-tier, yeah. Good hand-to-hand fighter, but definitely not Cap or BP levels of fighting skill.

He'd lose to all of them. Black Widow and Hawkeye clean the floor with grunts, but Daredevil can't put them down with single blows. Cap and Black Panther are superhumans, they'd destroy him.

He's still a pivotal character. His ability to win in a fight really doesn't account for how important Murdock is.

Also

He's a perfect Hell's Kitchen hero. Street level.

This inconsistency is just due to time restraints imo. You have less time in a movie so just have the extras not get back up lol. In a show you have way more time- 12 fucking 1 hr episodes) so as a director you can play with the fights more.

Exactly

Hes beaten everyone hes come across, starting to show how hes beating even the supernatural stuff.

Not to mention his powers. Arrows or shields will not work against him at all.

Depends on who's writing but the tone of his show is too different from the movies.
He's a character who's allowed to actually be hurt and beaten.
BW and Hawkeye are the only ones who he's even comparable to, and they're typical action heroes who can take out mooks without even being touched.
So no he can't touch any of them because even when he's taking on a bunch of low class thugs he gets hurt doing it.

If he wasn't a bitch faggot and actually finished his ninja training he'd beat down Black Widow and Hawkeye without breaking a sweat instead of struggling to win. He'd have the fight of his life taking down Black Panther or Cap, hundred to one shot of actually winning and even if he did he'd be limping off. Comics Daredevil is a much more polished and accomplished fighter.

I just want to see him and Spider-Man team up

Cap would rape his blind ass.

Didnt Clint beat Matt one time in the comics?

In Waid's run Matt recounts the fight. Clint uses Solar Flare Arrow and it takes Matt a second to realize what happened. He then overreacts and gets punched out.

I agree with this, if he ever makes it into the movies I would assume they would buff him a little so that he at least matches the other normies.

That's a team up I wanna see as well, they need to fix DD's costume first.

He needed help to defeat a fat autist. Clint could run circles around him.

DD's show is bad and overrated. You should feel bad for liking it.

Yeah its like really good idk what you're even comparing it to

It's a more of a thriller than a story.

I thought the S2 costume was great.

Mask looks like shit.

Plus I wouldn't think it would fit in to a Spidey team up with Spidey's bright costume

>Black Widow
I'd say even matchup assuming he can dodge her taser rounds, tough to guess.

>Hawkeye
I bet his super senses let him dodge the arrows. Once it's a close quarters fight it's Matt's game.

>Black Panther
I doubt there's much Matt's nunchucks can do to Vibranium armor. T'Challa wins that one.

>Cap
He may be able to dodge the shield, but once Cap closes in, Cap wins

>captain hydra

MCU Cap isn't Hydra. He's the last best Captain America out there. So leave the comics out of the MCU.

DD knocks out the lights and he wins, otherwise he'd get wrecked.

In Season 1, yes. They fixed it in Season 2.

>Black Widow
Only one he has a chance against, and even did The Slut's electric stingers give her the win most of the time.

>Hawkeye
In close range Blindman has a better chance then against The Slut, but at mid range Hawkguy's arrows will fuck him up. Way out of his paygrade there.

>Captain America
>Black Panther
Nah, not happening. Too big a difference. He'd be lucky to put up the same fight that Hawkguy did in Civil War.

No, he is Caotain Hydra too.

it seems like he's been getting stronger from season to season

Daredevil has small muscles.

Nothing Matt could do would allow him to win against Black Panther. He's wearing a suit of vibranium and has super human abilities. Even if by some miracle or DD super senses and ninja training DD was able to hit Black Panther, his batons would do jack shit against BP's suit.

He could easily frank them all minus thor and hulk

Cap isn't more skilled than DD in MCU. He's just got super human abilities.

Depends. Are the lights on, or off?

Clint's arrows aren't stronger or faster than other arrows, just more accurate and Matt has shown that he can dodge and and grab arrows mid air before.

he's got em where it matters

I'd say DD beats both Robin Hood and The Slut

He beats them all if they are fighting in a hallway.

MCU Daredevils real superpower is hallway manipulation

Black Widow could beat him off

I think all those memes have cut off your brains connection to it's common sense, let me spell it out for you.

>Comics Cap is now Captain Hydra
>Movie Cap is not (unless Marvel does some sort of stupid retcon to keep the MCU in line with the comics, or hires Hack Snyder.)

This is all head cannon unless they ever meet but:

>only slightly less skilled/powerful than Black Widow and Hawkeye. Had a chance to beat either of them under favourable circumstances.
>would get rickety-fucking-wrecked by Cap, Panther or any other enhanced.

For what it's worth, I think Batman has nothing on him.

Nuke didn't die did he? Nuke vs DD when?

He'd get wrecked by everyone.

Every Avenger's pretty much superhuman. Cap can stand toe to toe with Ironman. T'challa's apparently on that level as well.

In theory, BW and HE are human, but in practice, given that they can take out aliens and robots, they've exhibited strength, durability, stamina etc beyond human levels.

DD's a tough mutha' and once he gets his armored costume, he gets a lot tougher. But his super senses don't give him nearly the advantage they give him in the comics and he's just plain physically outmatched, even against BW.

Literally any trick arrow would kill him, fuck off.

Not to mention Clint was able to get close enough in combat with panther to get his bow on his throat. Superhuman panther...naw Clint wins

I'd say you are ignorant of the facts shown.

Yeah, DD can grab the arrow from mid-air, just like Loki did in Avengers.

How long would Luke last against the Avengers?

We know how that turned out

Hawkeye uses the arrow that either took out a bunker in AOU or blew a hole in the Helicarrier and hits him square in his black dome.

Luke is knocked clean the fuck out. Hell this version would probably die from his brain turning to mush from the concussive force

DD could maybe beat Hawkeye or Widow. He'd be hard pressed to beat Panther, and he'd probably lose to cap, but that would be one hell of a fight that we'll probably never get to see.

only the fact that Batman is a much more skilled fighter and a master in any martial art?

It's always hilarious when I read this. "Batman has mastered all martial arts" even though he started being Batman in his late twenties. Hey; a punch is a punch is a punch, right?

underrated

Then who would win in a fight between Oldboy and Daredevil?

started his run as batman when he was 25
Trained up until then.
I know it's not realistic, but hey... comics, man

implying Cap is superior to BP

they were tied, user

This post is fucking disgusting
Nom MCU cap is powered too and is a master martial artist casual

see

>How would he fare against Captain America or Black Panther?
Are you serious?

If he was in an Avengers film he'd get a big boost in how skilled at fighting he is.

The reason he has more trouble with thugs than Black Widow and Hawkeye is entirely tonal; it lends itself better to the gritty tone the series cultivates than if he just waltzed through them like they were nothing.

Daredevil is pretty low on the MCU totem pole. Even among his netflix fellows Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and maybe moonknight he'd probably not win against them.

>Implying he wouldn't smell the cordite charge and knock it out of the way with his batons rather than grabbing it.

>implying he knows what it smells like
Has he had any experience with explosives so far? Has he even sniffed anything out? I recall him tracking that chinese blind lady in S1, but he was using his hearing

Feats are feats. Tonal or not. He would have died very quickly in Sokovia

He's one if the better martial artist but it depends on the writer.

>reaching this hard

Either way, the blast radius would still kill him if he batted it away. Especially the bunker buster

>Feats are feats

And fiction is fiction.

If someone was writing Daredevil fighting alongside the Avengers in Sokovia, they'd have him fighting much more effectively.

He's remarking on the fact that Stan Lee himself said that Marvel Studios will probably do it.

Does MCU Thor have hard skin?

>Daredevil
>MCU

Why are you being so anal over a joke? Bucky?

His nemesis is Bullseye-- Hawkeye is a kiddie-pool swimmer compared to him.

We arent talking comics dumbass, and nice deflection of the point made. Matt loses hard

Unfortunately feats are all we have to go on and based on feats he would have died against the first drone he encountered lel

Widow would steamroll everyone DD has faced. Kingpin included

I want to see Fisk completely manhandle and crush MCU Nat.

>that we'll probably never get to see

Neither will Matt.

DCEU Batfleck? Sure.
NolanBats? He would lose so hard to Matt.

>Oldboy
Thanos, of course.

I wonder what would happen if/when Frank sends a .50cal round into Thor's pupil. Is he like Supes or does he have soft, squishy entry points?

>Netflix
>Moon Knight
Nigga what?

He regularly beats Deadpool, who is better than Taskmaster, so that puts him pretty much at superhuman levels of combat skill.

He said mcu dumbass. Read the fucking thread

Thor's eyes don't explode when beings like Kruse or Hulk wack at it. And they doesn't vaporize when then bifrost or sokovia blow up point blank in his face

Kurse*

He could beat Black Widow and Hawkeye easily.
If he fought Cap he could probably dodge quite a few of his attacks but Cap is stronger than DD could possibly even imagine compared to what he has fought previously and Cap is beyond skilled enough to hit Daredevil fairly quickly. He could last for a little bit but he doesnt have a shred of a chance of beating Cap.
Jessica Jones couldnt beat anybody.
Luke Cage maybe MAYBE could beat Black Widow.
Punisher has basically the same chances against MCU avengers as Daredevil.

If I had any skill with Photoshop, I'd shop a set of drums into that pic.

Daredevil would do well against Widow and Clint, and any normal fighter, but Cap, Panther, and Spider Man would kick his ass

I don't have any skill with photoshop

Captain America, Winter Soldier and Black Panther are outright superhumans in MCU, they would easily destroy Daredevil in combat.

Stan Lee doesn't have input anymore

The show is being really inconsistent with his powers. So the hand have no heartbeat, any other ambient sound should reveal them to his echolocation.

It's ninjas, dude, they don't follow the laws of physics.

That's writing 101.

I'm trying to find a way to refute this and I can't

Daredevil could probably beat Hawkeye because he's capable of beating Bullseye.

Ok, so Daredevil can beat most non-superhumans.

You retarded or something? We are talking about MCU. And even if this was 616, Deadpool wasn't even attempting to defeat Daredevil during their confrontation. Just stall and get away from him some that he can kill the bastard that he needed to kill.

>Cap isn't more skilled than DD in MCU. He's just got super human abilities.

Define "skill", simple maneuvers don't preclude skill.