I say this because of a combination of factors. Several stealth pony threads have been made on here and only ended up archiving/autosaging even though what they contain ends up being against the rules and should've been deleted. Why have the rule in place if it's not going to be enforced properly? If we are to go by Hiro's words that "if no one cares, then it's not a problem", then they can't even go by that. We've seen several pony posts that stayed up while the tons of posts bitching about them staying up get deleted, while others that get no replies end up getting deleted.
Why bother having the rule up if it's not even going to be enforced properly? Even Steven Universe and Loud House threads get deleted quicker than they do, and they don't have global rules against them. The MLP fanbase has decreased significantly in the 4 years that the rule's existed. Surely it can't be a hassle to allow a cartoon on the cartoon board.
Ponies are still cancerous. Containment boards were made for a reason.
Xavier Bell
Why?
James Flores
Jews
Ryan Bailey
If they're supposed to be contained, then it seems like they're doing a very poor job of containing them.
Tyler Morales
Sup Forums's front page is not drowning in ponies. In fact I cannot see any ponies at all. I'd say it's doing alright.
Liam Jenkins
How would you say the current Sup Forums cancers compare to the current state of /mlp/?
Michael Watson
Did you report them?
If the answer is yes, email the moderation team with your concerns. Remember to give them the thread's url and the post id's of any posts that particularly illustrate your point (like so ).
If you feel that the moderators and janitors are leaving posts that clearly violate the rules up, then the other moderators and janitors will want to know about that.
Also, you should be aware that the horsefuckers have been having "stealth" threads since they were contained. Apparently they can't stand their own kind and some of them believe they're somehow better than the rest. You're correct, this is a violation of containment, but the threads will stay if they're not reported, and enforcement is only going to happen if the mods know the rules are broken.
>Surely it can't be a hassle to allow a cartoon on the cartoon board.
Saying that was why we ended up begging moot to make the containment board in the first place. It's simply not a true statement.
Blake Powell
Oh shit spooky ghost! Also probably? My brother seems to thinks so and he does not give the slightest shit about pone. Of course the second you make it official you invite all the Sup Forums shitposters who made it problem in the first place back. Not to mention falseflaggers. Better safe than sorry. Wait until the show's officially done and /mlp/'s no longer necessary.
William Fisher
Were they really such a problem that we had to make a thread about them? I've never given ponyfags a second thought and, guess what, I'm not noticing any more of their bullshit than usual. Maybe Hiro's right.
Owen Campbell
>the current state >implying the things you fucks pulled on us in the past are all forgotten
out
Carson Morris
It's a matter of principlr
Daniel Green
Yeah, not really
Christian Morgan
I think so. I don't like that I can't use reaction images that have ponies in them because they trigger autists. That would be like getting rid of all Batman reaction images because they triggered autists. Bronies already have a containment board and using ponies for reaction images wouldn't make them spread, despite what idiots think.
David Peterson
>email the moderation team with your concerns That would be nice if I even had proper emails to begin with.
>Wait until the show's officially done and /mlp/'s no longer necessary. You wouldn't even have to remove /mlp/. You can keep it and make the relationship between them like Sup Forums and /vp/.
Camden Reed
>stealth pony threads
Are you the fucker from /qa/ who whines about "cryptobrony" threads?
Jeremiah Hall
>Why bother having the rule up if it's not even going to be enforced properly? You could say this about pretty much all rules. Mod enforcement has always been spotty and it'll always be spotty.
John Price
Where are these "rules" of which you speak? I've never seen a link to them anywhere. (I haven't looked all that hard, though.)
Kayden Campbell
Oh course not, because then we'd have Barney faggo shitpostinhere again
Jose Gutierrez
I think rule 15 is a relic of a bygone era.
If it's removed, there will probably be a spike in shitposting, but it'll eventually settle.
John White
I don't know nor care. Just hide threads you hate dude.
Jordan Johnson
Autosaging is wrong, and bad. There should be a new, stronger word for autosaging, like badwrong or badong. YES. Autosaging is badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of autosaging: gnodab.
Levi Carter
>wanting /mlp/ back on Sup Forums Do you want a million generals on Sup Forums? Because that's how you get a million generals on Sup Forums. All /mlp/ is is generals and greentext porn prompts.
Matthew Cook
>Should Rule 15 be removed from Sup Forums? Only if they remove /mlp/ too.
Mind, it's going to be a goofy first few weeks if and when either of those happen.
Joshua Lopez
Sup Forums.org/rules
Well, I've been noticing certain problems and I think it needs to be settled.
Hudson Gray
You know what you have to do.
Henry Barnes
No
Jordan Diaz
I didn't say I wanted /mlp/ removed. In fact, /mlp/ can stay. They already have their own board culture. They can still exist as the primary place to discuss MLP. Just allow them to post their images on here. It should be pretty obvious by now which threads want to generate actual discussion vs pure shitposting.
Samuel Brown
You let one ant stand up...
Caleb Williams
Yeah, this. I don't want /mlp/s culture to dilute mang. Browsing there makes me feel so much better about myself.
Hudson Lee
That might be true, but going by what a shit hole /mlp/ is it's probably not, and even a short burst of massive shitposting isn't worth it considering the crap this board deals with already.
Gavin Johnson
Stealth pony threads aren't really breaking GR15 because more often than not they of a human character that we only have the illustrator's word is supposed to be a representation of a pony. I think as long as they're not posting actual ponies/equestria girls it should be fine.
Logan Ross
Didn't GR15 state that it extends to humanized versions of the characters as well? Also, it seems they aren't doing a good job if they're letting quite a few screenshots from the actual show itself slide. Examples:
Charles Ortiz
>Just allow them to post their images on here. Then what's the point of /mlp/? If they want to post about it they can go to /mlp/ they have no reason to go anywhere else.
Nathan Howard
Rule 15. I don't know what that is, but I don't want to die at 5:30 tomorrow
Carter Rivera
It can be the primary discussion board for /mlp/, similar to how the primary discussion board for Zootopia is Sup Forums, but it's also allowed on Sup Forums as well since it falls under the "film" category.
Basically, not allowing posting of ponies outside of /mlp/.
Hudson Mitchell
OP is the kind of idiot or newbie that wasn't around for the blight that was ponies and probably also thinks /vp/ and /vg/ should rejoin Sup Forums because he wasn't around to see the generals scorching the front page of Sup Forums to the ground. Either way
Dylan White
I haven't noticed these pony threads, but I'm sure I would if Rule 15 was repealed. The only reason I'm posting in this thread is because I feel like my life is threatened otherwise. Fuck you, OP.
Joseph Hernandez
You haven't been looking hard enough
Zachary Johnson
I was around, and that was when ponies were the new thing, so no shit there was a huge popularity. Obviously, we're going 6 years on, its popularity has decreased as many of the memers in the fandom ended up jumping on the next bandwagon.
Samuel Moore
Giddy up
Sebastian Kelly
Is this cartoon drama? Can we fuse /cartoons/ with /mlp/ and be done with it?
Adrian Lewis
Ponies suck, so they should stay on the board that shall not be named.
Logan Morris
That's why we keep the CYOAs/writefag shit on /mlp/. Occasional show discussion and reaction images can go on here as well.
Julian Russell
So long as /mlp/ remains active, I imagine the rule will stay in place.
Tyler Bennett
If /qa/, /trash/ and this thread are any indication, no. >stealth threads Just because there's a crack in the dam doesn't mean you blow the whole thing up.
Mason Richardson
I believe it's time to remove 15 cause it'll stop barneyfag's shit posting once and for all with his constant ban evasion
It's more for the reaction images more then anything else
Plus it'll keep barneyfag from shitting up threads
Cameron James
>Should Rule 15 be removed from Sup Forums? Neigh :^)
Gavin Jenkins
So does the new PPG, Johnny Test, TTG, Breadwinners, etc, but you don't see anyone complaining that they need a containment board.
Robert Jenkins
No
Nathaniel Cook
B*rneyfag could ruin everything even if the fanbase is dead
Joseph Flores
I think the occasional image or mention of it here is fine, but no actual threads about ponies. Any thread that starts off talking about say, Superman, but eventually gets derailed into pony discussion should also be trimmed.
Jose Cook
I am complaining.
Contain all of them on /ca/ - Cartoons.
Jonathan Hill
Jokes on you, OP, death is a sweet release.
Alexander Brown
rd in a cum jar
Easton Hernandez
No and fuck you OP
Jace Bennett
Barneyfag must be on fumes since that thread got archived.
Dominic Murphy
"Sup Forums is infested with ponyfags. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of threads that were made known to the mods as being stealth pony threads and which nevertheless are still working and shaping posting in the board."
Michael Moore
Ech
Ian White
GR15 needs to go. Basically the only people who want to keep it either like being able to punish fans of things they don't like are or actual crazy people.
Grayson Sullivan
Barneyfriend would lose all power of rule 15 was removed. He would be no more harmful than an ordinary shitposter.
Joseph Davis
Have you been to /mlp/ OP? That is not stuff you want to come here.
Ian Clark
It's just to contain the porn, brah. So don't send your ghost out to kill me.
Robert Allen
No, they have their own shitty board. Even SUfags aren't as cancerous as ponyfags.
Luis Morris
If it'll get Barneyfag to go and stay go then I support it.
Connor Mitchell
No fuck off /mlp/ just wasn't made for no fucking reason You either weren't here before it was made or are blocking out how bad it was before then
using instances where a rule isn't properly enforced ON FUCKING Sup Forums is not and will never be an excuse to justify the removal of a rule
Angel Kelly
>promoting more stealth thread play
Why would you do that?
>the Killing Joke movie just came out, do you think Joker is a pretty big guy? >this Spiderman cartoon doesn't cover the Clone Saga, how about a cringe storytime? >anybody remember that Watchmen parody from the Simpsons? Man, Alan Moore is an asshole
Making sub-boards for everything is the wrong way to do things, and the only reason they were put in place was hugbox demand and preventing the spread of shitposting.
Caleb Davis
The rule should be loosened.
If there is a thread discussing the merits of Western animation and someone brings up the pony show as an example of quality flash animation, for example, they should not be banned.
If someone makes a thread about their favourite pony waifu then it should be banned.
Easton Walker
Cartoons do not belong with comics and they need to be contained in their own board.
I am right and you are wrong.
Brayden Harris
SO much this.
For someone who was into it during its peak, it's best to keep it on a containment board.
Nathaniel Evans
The two mediums have been interwoven for decades, resulting in cartoon versions of comics and comic versions of cartoons. If the boards are split, what should somebody do if they want to cross-reference the comic and cartoon versions of famous superheroes, like in most comic threads? Should they eat shit and stick to one medium?
Liam Lewis
You would probably have better luck taking this to /qa/ where it might be considered by people who actually have the power to reinforce or remove such rules. Just a thought, anyway.
If you just want a Sup Forums perspective, it's hard to say. Personally I don't care and wouldn't mind if they came back to Sup Forums because just like I did then I'd ignore those threads, same as for Homestuck, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe and other shows I don't watch or can't stand the fandom. Of course at the same time you cannot expect people to act like reasonable 18+ individuals and just hide threads they don't like because that's not what Sup Forums is about, insofar as Sup Forums is about anything.
Sebastian Sanchez
It helps shoo away the haters butting in on people who want to discuss it all the time.
Camden Lewis
It may have decreased, but I wouldn't get rid of /mlp/ until long after the Friendship is Magic series finale airs.
Maybe it's just me, but as long as there's content being made at a regular pace by the franchise owners AND the board garners enough traffic to justify existance, it's still relevant to have its own board. Likewise with /vp/, that should only get reabsorbed by Sup Forums proper when GameFreak cancels the series AND /vp/ traffic drops exponentially.
If they get canceled but traffic remains strong, the board should stay.
Xavier Kelly
This
All it really does at this point is stop people from using reaction images.
It's just another cartoon with an autistic fanbase like many other cartoons that grace this board.
Ethan Rodriguez
What is rule 15?
Jeremiah Moore
MLP is dying. The fanbase is nowhere near as large as it was when /mlp/ was first created and some of the threads just seem to exist just to fill thread quotas (the character specific threads, AU threads, conquest threads etc.). At this point, I would honestly think replacing /mlp/ with a Steven Universe board would do much good for Sup Forums in the long term due to the decisiveness of the later show in this board and rate at which its generals generate posts.
Xavier Hill
Deleting single posts relating to the show is retarded, but entire threads dedicated to it should still be moved to /mlp/
Grayson Myers
Not until such time as the brony community is well and truly diminished, and definitely not so long as /mlp/ exists.
Sebastian Ramirez
You aren't the same guy who supports making a western and eastern Sup Forums or suggested manga gets it's own board because Sup Forums preferred to talk about anime more often are you?
Owen Torres
>Likewise with /vp/ The difference with /vp/ is that there is no global rule keeping pokemon to just /vp/ or /trash/.
Lincoln Gray
>cross-reference
Do it, nobody's stopping anyone from pointing out the differences between a comic and a book.
But let's just move all your stupid zootopia, steven, etc threads to your own board.
>like in most comic threads
Mostly superhero shit, as you pointed out. Maybe /ca/ will also weed out a bunch of casuals. It's a win-win.
I don't give a fuck about anything that happens in those boards.
Andrew Nguyen
I feel like it wouldn't matter too much.
The problem with "stealth pony posting" (which sometimes isn't even pony related) is not that there are a bunch of /mlp/ refugees making a hidden pony thread on the board and using it to discuss the show and/or ERP. The problem is a small number of spammy fuckers who just post the same comments, over and over and over again, in the thread. The moderators and janitors make it a point to clean this garbage up, which is certainly their job, so I don't see the problem with what they are doing.
Removing Global Rule 15 isn't going to stop Wonder Autismo from spitting out the same sort of spam. Maybe a slightly different flavor of crazy, but still the same problems. The fact that they respond to Barney and (occasionally) Littlest Pet Shop with the same reaction indicates that Global Rule 15 or no, they're still a problem. Removing them is going to resolve the issue, not changing the Global Rules.
I mean, just take a look at which has exactly one image identifiable as the MLP cartoon, one stealth MLP image, and a picture of one of the authors with a pony in the background. The rest are either not ponies or are unidentifiable as ponies, and yet gets picked out as equivalent to a clear screenshot. Hell, the latest thread mentioned just finally fell off page 10 a few hours ago - not because of pony discussion, but because the same fuck kept bumping the thread complaining that it hadn't been deleted yet.
And yes, I realize that you made those posts, OP. I'm familiar with your posting style, having seen it before. But that doesn't mean that changing any of the Global Rules will change anything.
John Richardson
Why, is /co fond of people who try? The more I try, the more I feel like my plan is just too elusive anyways.
Jacob Scott
If it stays too one thread that's on topic and not some RP stuff, sure. The problem is how people are triggered by horses rather then horse fans.
Jackson Hughes
>Several stealth pony threads have been made on here like this one?
Aaron Miller
If it was up to a vote I would keep the board first (or make a board for Comics and cartoons generals for ALL SHIT,) but allow the cross posting as a FU to barnyfag and for the free tears that ponies bring.
Ponies are pure chemo as they point out the newfags or the idiots who give a shit. Cartoons are cartoons man. Just because some furfag wacks it to bugs bunny doesn't mean you can't enjoy some good old slapstick.
This is coming from the person who joined this bandwagon for the free tears and fun. Momma faust doesn't make wack shows yo.
Also fuck the click bait image. Don't invoke meme magic just for discussion for Kek's sake.
Hudson Reyes
>Why, is /co fond of people who try? Nobody on Sup Forums cares, outside Barneyfag from Sup Forums.
Charles Brooks
Sweet death, come to me.
Sebastian Thomas
How's a man supposed to create a compelling cartoon? It seems the most fundamental part of wholesome storytelling has been captured by Matt Groening's Homer Simpson. Not even South Park is able to capture the all-around awesomeness of a character like Homer who lives for and loves his family. Bob's Burgers came close & King of the Hill came even closer. I guess I'm just wondering how to get my cartoon on air.
Jonathan Lopez
>finally fell off page 10 a few hours ago That was a helluva thread. Actually made the mistake of responding to the guy. Got some of my posts deleted in the dragnet but no bans, thankfully.
You're right, there is no reasoning with the individual. There's something wrong with the person or people, and rule change or not we'll still have issues with him/them or people like him/them.
I still think it was a stupid idea to ever create an /mlp/ just because it set a bad precedent. It was letting the trolls/spergs win. Funny thing is at least on Sup Forums back in the day the "ponies all over the front page" was already being taken care of by the self-imposed generals. Not really sure why they made the rule to contain it. Guess it spread into Sup Forums and Moot didn't like them in his zen garden.