Why is Sup Forums so blue pilled about communism? It baffles me how you of all people can discredit the idea that abolishing money wouldn't be a positive when Sup Forums as a whole operates on a purely communistic way, there is no karma, no upvotes, no names attached to your posts.
There is no benefit at all to the people here yet Sup Forums remains a powerhouse when it comes to creativity purely because you aren't driven for that which gives you the most upvotes, the highest karma, the most fame, you are driven purely out of a desire to contribute to your fellow user and nothing more. Money is not an incentive to creavity it's the very opposite it stifles it.
If you truly believe capitalism is best for society and rewards truly the motivator for invention then you would be in plebbit whoring for karma or countless other sites where instead of wasting away posts you could get a higher post count.
Communism and the abolishing of money would be what benefits society the most
>thinking an entire economy can be run in exactly the same way as an eskimo throat-singing board
James Lee
>communism >abolishing money Confirmed for knowing dick
Blake Watson
Listen...I dont know how old you are,12 Maximum maybe? Let me tell you something about communism: It doesn't work. Period. And it will never. No matter how many edgy Che Guevara T-shirts you wear,it doesn't work. My Parents lived in the USSR. Do you want to live in the USSR? Certainly not.
Christopher Mitchell
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Eli Clark
>dumb degenerate tripfag thinks he wouldn't end up in gulag or in front of a firing squad You're delusional.
Owen Reed
>Number of societies that have achieved successful goals of communism and are first world nations
0
>number of first world nations that are capitalistic or have major support for capitalism that are first world
USA, Canada, UK France, Denmark, Germany, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Luxumberg, Japan (and there are a lot more but I think my point is made)
As much as Communism sounds like a fantastic idea (to which in my economic opinion, it's not) history has shown that Communism either does not work or produce failing states that are left like Best Korea and Cuba.
China isn't even communistic anymore but this weird hybrid of Capitalism and Mercantilism.
Jaxon Nguyen
Sup Forums gets revenue from the amount of traffic it has. It is in no way Communist
Zachary Johnson
But it's true, motivation is what is required and to do that which doesn't benefit you.
You are all proof of that, hell there have been people who would steal your ideas for THEIR benefits in other forums or for money. You contribute solely for your fellow man and not for self.
I'm talking about true communism.
Sebastian Sullivan
No, sure capitalism has some flaws, but free enterprise is the superior system. Communism turns everything it touches to shit. Plus I take strong issue with Communism's stances on Evolution and equality. If you ever get your forced equality you will hate it and will reject it, but by then it will be far too late.
Anthony Jenkins
Nope, no Russians false flagging here...
Asher Lopez
Ah, your special brand which has never been tried before, correct?
Nathaniel Jones
You think that in Marx's vision of communism there was no money?? Go read the manifesto at least one time before you make a post defending it you fucking idiot
Nolan Williams
Read Mises treatise of why communism as an economic theory fails in the real world. Come back to us when you come up with a counterargument that actually works.
Caleb Stewart
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Angel Jenkins
It's ironic because chances are you're the same kind of middle class piece of shit Lenin would have lined up against a wall and shot.
John Sullivan
Never been tried before? Sup Forums is doing it right the fuck now.
WHY aren't you in reddit where memes that you create can give YOU high prestige, fame and be well known by others? You yourself are operating on a purely communistic way, you aren't operating in a sense of trying to benefit like a capitalist. You aren't being creative to benefit from it so what is your motivation to being here a place that you cant benefit from?
Cooper Gomez
>You guys are like commies. No IDs >is a tripfag commie
Isaiah Bailey
Respond to me
Adrian Walker
>dumb tripfag confuses anarchism with communism Listen retard, people who are posting here and generating content are doing it because they want to and are free to do so.
Now if it were "communist" to post here there would need to be a governing body which forces people to generate an amount of content here.
Gabriel Collins
>Sup Forums is communism because people are anons and there's no rewards or fame and stuff >tripfag
It's too good m8
Noah Torres
FPBP
Carson Howard
How would I know, I'm not reading nerd shit about some dead old guy.
I'm just saying that capitalism and using money as an incentive to producing creativity and quality goods is not accurate as people on Sup Forums are willing to produce more and if not better than others from other forums who DO offer incentives. There are people who write articles and get paid that consist of shit stolen from Sup Forums, this is not quality.
Mason Sullivan
Fuck off. Everytime I'm at the local grocery store and smell fresh, grilled chicken for less than 10 bucks I think to myself "thank god for capitalism".
Daniel Murphy
Jeez, how surprising socially-needy NEETs would spend an entire night trying to impress his online friends.
He's not wrong.
But this isn't a proper critique, is it? Because Communism dialectically results from capitalism.
Ian Ortiz
Guaranteed (you)s I'm just here to voice out opinions and look at funny pictures. Also anonimity. Why would I want to go to Reddit where everyone can see what I typed on what post in what board and get "fame"? It helps nothing. Compared to actual communism where I'm forced to meet a quota and am paid the same amount as a lazy fuck who probably goes to cripple himself so he doesn't have to work.
Besides, its just a phase. You'll get over it.
Justin Brown
They like censorship too much. I'm not down with that.
Noah James
I mean. To be fair with everyone talking about communism. Communism is still pretty new. I give it at least a few hundred years for all the kinks to be worked out. Were gonna need it at one point regardless
Noah Ortiz
>dead old guy
Confirmed troll /thread
Luis White
>making memes for fun is the same thing as working in a communist system and giving all the benefits of your work to the government
As I said before, you are a fucking idiot.
Elijah Young
Either bait or some faggot who has never worked a job or paid taxes in his life
Camden Lewis
>Capitalism >People compete for higher paying jobs >Communism >Everyone gets the same living standard >People compete for jobs that require the least effort
Cooper Campbell
All the benefits of your "work" goes to this board not to you dumb ass.
When an article gets written about pol do you think "oh look what a user did" or do you think "oh look at what WE did?" Even though that fame you are obtaining as a community is to Sup Forums and not you?
They are thr governing body and you working for it am I wrong?
Kayden Stewart
Sup Forums's internal economy is in no way communist. It is predicated on (you)s. It is in fact a pure, meritocratic free market. The most meritorious threads, measured in replies, perform the best, are remembered, and last a long time. The least meritorious threads perish.
Parker Lewis
cold war "red scare" propaghanda was very succesful on you I see...
Robert Powell
fuck off jew
Angel Flores
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Tyler Fisher
Nope, I don't go on this website because of some sense of 'pride' that I get when some fag journalist writes an article, I go on Sup Forums because I enjoy it, plain anD simple. My 'work' will 404 in a couple hours, and serves no purpose but entertaining me. Nope, wasn't alive during the cold war, just don't believe that communism could ever legitimately be implemented and I disagree with many of its key tenets.
Ryder Phillips
You think too small. It's again this type of thinking that people don't inherently love to contribute.
People here don't offer small irrelevant memes or original content, people who offer a bigger dose get thanked replied to and are given a sense of self worth and accomplishment even if they are complete strangers and don't benefit.
Logan Jackson
the guy he's replying to doesn't even know who Marx is. He doesn't know shit about communism.
Matthew Myers
(((Communism)))
Jacob Adams
Yeah OP is a big boy retard or a troll. The communist manifesto is like 50 fucking pages come on now
NAME ETHNICITY Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Lourie (Larine) Jew Ouritski Jew Volodarski Jew Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew Smidovitch Jew Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Krylenko Russian Lounatcharski Russian
The Council of the People’s Commissars:
MINISTRY NAME ETHNICITY President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian Agriculture Protian Armenian Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew Food Schlichter Jew Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew State Control Lander Jew State Lands Kauffman Jew Works V. Schmidt Jew Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian Religions Spitzberg Jew Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew Hygiene Anvelt Jew Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew Press Volodarski Jew Elections Ouritski Jew Justice I. Steinberg Jew Refugees Fenigstein Jew Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew
Ryan Reed
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Henry Long
Sure, sure whatever you say. You willingly come here make posts while missing out on benefitting by getting a higher post count in other forums, missing out on your posts having more karma and upvotes.
No you just understand that money, fame or even acknowledgements aren't your motivator to contribute.
Aaron Stewart
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Carson Butler
>when Sup Forums as a whole operates on a purely communistic way There is no bordergaurads shooting you for attempts to leave. Sup Forums is voluntary communism is not.
Jayden Morris
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Gavin King
Guys he's actually serious, does anyone have the sedatives?
Cooper Barnes
Sure there is no predetermined resource but thT doesnt make it communism. Particularly the lack of freedom of comminism compared to Sup Forums is where ypur theory strikes out.
Jack Cox
Our currency is memes.
Oliver Ross
(((gobbunism))) is great, in fact op we have a free helicopter ride for you for being such a good gobbunist
Charles Parker
I am just going by how history has panned out. Communism has either ended up with nation states like Cuba or Best Korea or it's champion states ended up like Yugoslavia or USSR. Now given that Yugoslavia was ended under the guise of "Human Rights Violations" to which NATO opened up a can of butthurt on them I have not fully delved into to see the full details of how it ended. It is easily seen in the experimental nation states that used to be Communistic (Nations that were behind the Iron Curtain) have enjoyed more prosperity under more capitalistic market styles. IE they went the way of the Dodo and are mostly left as footnotes on history.
Parker Wright
Cold war propaghanda still goes on today. You would be blind not to see it, regardless of what you think of communism.
The fact you think communism is "giving everything to the state", is proof of this.
Alexander Myers
fucking die or just grow up
James Walker
Kill yourself
Leo Smith
>the workings of a Thai basket weaving message board can be extrapolated to a national government
Jonathan Gonzalez
only anime could shitpost this hard
Luis Mitchell
Haha, I guarantee I know more about communism than you do my friend. The benefits of the individual's work in a communist society funnels back into the society and not into the pocket of the worker; maybe the way I phrased it was slightly off, as in a communist state you obviously receive benefits from the state, but my point is valid.
Noah Gomez
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Elijah Cruz
It's the national socialist way.
Jaxson Cook
id go russian for ayase
Gavin Murphy
Once again I have to ask, WHY aren't you on reddit or other forums where you can benefit from your posts?
A capitalist would think under such logic yet you are operating under a different set of thinking you are saying one thing yet doing another you hypocrite
Dylan Bennett
>How would I know, I'm not reading nerd shit about some dead old guy.
damn this is some really shitty trolling. Atleast TRY and put some effort into it jeez
Aaron Sanders
>it's a thread where teenagers who have only learned about Communism from Sup Forums try and discredit it
Almost as bad as communist redditors who try and discredit capitalism.
Xavier Foster
>The fact you think communism is "giving everything to the state" Because it it. Only communist theorists were too stupid to understand what state is so they falsely believe that they transfer property to another entity.
Landon Bennett
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Ryan Morales
You are literally red dit. This is a national socialist board.
Evan Murphy
Honestly 85% here are fun and nice guys but just NPC, rly. No need to explain anything
Ryan Reed
Is that even accurate? How utterly spooky, as if child.
The layout of plebbit makes my eyes bleed.
William Hall
>Comparing intangible digital incentives that do nothing to something you can exchange for actual goods and services
Henry Kelly
personally i'd recommend hayek's road to serfdom. It's a bit of an easier read, which is clearly what op needs
Austin Wright
You have to go back JIDF.
Austin Foster
Yes there needs an explanation since there are places out there that offer you BENEFITS for what you are doing here free of charge you don't even own your own posts as everyone is anonymous.
So once again what is your explanation a capitalist would seek a place he can benefit a communist would instead take more pride in the comunity thriving more than he himself
Christian Williams
The benefit is the enjoyment you get from being on the website, not the karma or the pride or any stupid fucking bullshit that you are saying
Liam Ramirez
Your paranoia while extreme futters my point.
Plebbit that functions as a capitalistic way offering incentives and prestige to those who offer more and the best quality have to run down over to Sup Forums to in a sense steal from them a user base that has no incentives to create the stuff they do but even so manage to out produce and create higher quality than a place that DOES offer incentives.
Do explain
Camden Clark
EXACTLY.
Like a communist. A sense of giving back to your community, a sense of improving it however little or big you aren't doing it for yourself but for the site and the users in it.
THAT desire is what motivates creativity and quality not money
Robert Martin
Nope. I'm not on here to make the place better, just to make myself smarter and pass the time enjoyably
Nathaniel Turner
No need to explain by urself anything. U have to work only with intellectuals and feed poltards with shitty propaganda. Not modernistic argunents. Only manipulations. You have to remind them that JIDF hated communism, that USSR was top 1 antisemitic and anti zionist power. Thats how it canwork.
Blake Brown
>I'm not here to make the place better But it is, because you are here.
You can rationalize your motives all you want your very behavior and actions are a communistic form of thinking and simply continued showing that capitalism is a flawed system
Gabriel Barnes
>Like a communist. Communists have enforcement by military force behind every action all other mechanism to encourage people are secondary. What are talking about?
Luke Anderson
You don't need communism to get all the things you describe you want. It is a jewish ideology created out of ressentiment and the jewish survival instinct for one purpose and one purpose alone: to destroy white nations and Western civilisation and make it safe for jews to do jew things.
Josiah Baker
Real communism has indeed never been tried before. It's not an ideology ever indented to be implemented.
Communist theories are pipe dreams for manipulating useful idiots into removing competition, so an oligarchy can swoop in and take control. The leftists are all eliminated once they've served their purpose.
Owen Scott
So even in a capitalist system, in which a small business owner participates, you define that as communism because they make the economy better? Uh, no, try a different argument.
Connor Torres
No, hostile dictators have enforcement by military force.
Benjamin Morgan
>that USSR was top 1 antisemitic and anti zionist power. After 1948 and especially after 1967 when soviet liberation of Israel failed tremendously. Before 1948 soviets invented Holocaust. Really makes you think.
Ryan Wood
if communism increases my chances of finding a girlfriend, I'm all for it, but from what I've seen in China, 80% of the males are single and are overworked like slaves?
Grayson Stewart
Go to sleep Bernie. It's late and you have a lot of Shilling for Hill to do tomorrow.
Sebastian Cooper
B-but, user, that wasn't real communism!!!!
Logan Wilson
>No Yes Communism declares non existence of natural right and their ban is enforced by weapons. Read bill of right. Literally everything written in it is prohibited under communism and if someone tries to execute these rights communists will shot them.
Blake Brown
That made no sense to me
Ian Mitchell
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Jose Edwards
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Ian White
>but ussr wasn't TRUE communism!
Elijah Hernandez
>Doing that which doesn't benefit you
Like, implementing communism?
Thomas Parker
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William Johnson
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Christian Rogers
Once again hostile dictators. This has nothing to do with an economic system and has everything to do with the way it's being implemented.
Xavier Allen
to be fair, communism brought Russia out of being a barely European shit hole to a competing world power in around half a century
Isaiah Adams
Watch this from beginning to end please and then lurk more or go back to red dit.