Cold War over for 25 years

>Cold War over for 25 years
>people still think we need to be bitter enemies with Russia

Wake me up when all the Boomers have died.

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>being friends with Slavs

Yeah right. We should have dropped a nuke on Moscow after WW2. They're literally responsible for pumping out commies and Marxists into western governments

Thanks for winning WW2 Ruskies.

>the boomers

and the neocons, and the globalists, and the neolibs

That is, our entire ruling elite who in reality are just passing their views on down to their children anyway

>Slavs
>They're literally responsible

kek

>thinking Russia is your friend
Good goy. Putinovitz can be trusted.

You do know that the government of the USSR is literally filled with Jews yes?

You are absolutely fucking deluded if you think relations are hostile only because America is being "mean" to Russia.

Practically all of Russia's neighbors hate them, why do you think that is?

I trust Putin far more than I would ever trust a neocon or a globalist jew

They basically are

There is no reason for conflict beyond the fact Obongo demands it

>not wanting to be friends with Ivan and Vlad
>not wanting Putin and Trump to have good trades established
>not wanting Russian made weapons to be imported to USA
>not wanting qt 3.14 Russian girlfriend

kys.

You would rather obsess over history than look at the reality in front of you

It's the same reason why western countries would rather compete and shit talk each other than look at their impending demographic doom.

The reality where Russia has invaded 2 of its neighbors in the past 2 years and annexed their territory?

Excuse me, but did you know that Russia works with our most dangerous enemies? Syria, Iran, and Trump all receive Russian aid so why should anyone trust Russia. Hillary 2016

*past decade

and now theyre natsoc
>problem?

>Syria
>Iran
>enemies
???

Everyone knows about the butthurt belt by now, yet nobody gives a crap, esti.

Because Bongo financed the overthrow of an elected government in Ukraine

And Georgia attacked South Ossetia first, not the other way around

Meanwhile you have real problems in the Baltic like austerity and neoliberalism crippling your country.

Another Trumpist stumped.

The remaining snowapes would have steamrolled us. We simply didnt have enough bombs ready back we were the only ones with nukes. Shame really.

Neither Syria nor Iran should be our enemies either. We should all team up and finally put an end to Saudi Arabia

Well I mean, literally stumped in the sense that you're spewing bullshit that makes no logical sense I guess.

You know small countries with shitty mentality this is why it happens. Why russians don't hate germans after they have killed roughly 20 mil of the populations? It's called imperial way of thinking. And all "sprats" countries hate Russia because USSR made something bad in a past.

>confusing Russians with jews

she is the textbook definition of "failing upwards"

>qt 3.14

Grow up faggot

And I hope all of you punks realise that every western country need some abstract enemy to pump up military budgets to provide economy growth.

My dad still calls it the Soviet Union

>people still think we need to be bitter enemies with Russia

You need powerful enemies to justify spending over half a trillion a year on the military.

+20 Rubles

>what is China

>>Cold War over for 25 years

implying, it's just went undeground

Ruskie with proxy detected

>>what is China

An excuse to spend even more next year.

USSR = socialist fascism
90's Russia = liberal democracy
21st century Russia = fascism

Putin's Russia isn't the same one that we were dealing with after the Cold War.

>USSR = socialist fascism

They hated fascism.

>21st century Russia = fascism

They still hate fascism now.

Are you dumb? They lost millions to the German fascists and they will not soon forget that.

>what is education

Yea i dont really understand why Cuckmerica and Russia have to be enemies. They both want and achieved the same thing. They destroyed europe. And Americucks also want to destroye themselves and im sure Russia doesnt mind hits. So there is no reason to be enemies. Russia will rule the world no amtter hwat. Americucks will get conquered by BBC NIGGA

cnn,bbc based opinions, feelsgoodman

Oh I like this game. Uhh, I'll go with breeding ground for lung cancer Alex.

>it's a poland is paranoid about russia episode
Someone really needs to take that image of Russia in a straight jacket going 'hohols, hohols everywhere' and shoop it to be Poland.

The USSR was just fascism with a socialist face.
They may claim to hate it now but that doesn't really reflect reality.
If it looks like fascism, tastes like fascism and smells like fascism then it probably is fascism.

Apparently something you lack.

90s Russia was the greatest example of jews raping an economy in history

at least until 2008

>thinks facts are network specific
Never watch either of those. I just study IR.

>
>The USA is just fascism with a social democratic face.
>They may claim to hate it now but that doesn't really reflect reality.
>If it looks like fascism, tastes like fascism and smells like fascism then it probably is fascism.

FIXED

>muh no true socialism

the government owned the means of production so it was socialism

Yeah. I'm not denying that. I said it was socialist fascism.

So is that before the Global Finish Khanate or a while after?

Us fascists have to stick together.
Literally no reason to antagonize Russia

>implying it wasn't a certain chosen race

That was literally the jews, this is no meme but the truth

>USA
>social democracy
When?

No, they were massively overextended and depleted and had been relying on american supplies for the whole war. They would have collapsed from a stiff breeze.

Tell me then, what is fascism? And how is Russia now in any way fascistic at all?

I'm with you on this one
Russo-American alliance will dominate the 21st century

Vladimir Putin is playing spiritual chess with the New World Order, and I bet Trump is aware of this.

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>Socialist facism

That's already been done.

And the USSR had a system by which soviet delegations could have power in the government.

It also had absolutely no marks of fascism. Fascism is nationalist, the USSR was internationalist. They believed they needed to give communism to the world and that people that weren't communist were evil. Fascists just wanted everyone to FUCK OFF BECAUUSE THEIR FULL!1!!!!1!!1!!1one!!!1

If you can just call whatever country that doesn't have real democracy "fascist" then certainly you would agree the modern EU is the most fascist "country" on earth.

The future of member states are decided by unelected bureaucrats and not representatives of the people.

I'm pretty sure mostly millenials don't like Russia because Putin hates fags

>90's Russia = liberal democracy
There was a joke in 90s: "Democracy is a form of government where everything depends on one main democrat". Yeltsin shot Russian fucking parliament with tanks because they tried to impeach him through democratic means. But of course the West was totally fine with it, because Yeltsin was a total cuck that allowed the likes of Berezovsky and other (((oligarchs))) rob Russia dry with the help of their Western (((advisors))).

is this bait? The soviets hated the jews. Khrushchev literally called them kikes publicly

The last part is especially vital to me

The USSR wasn't internationalist since Lenin. Stalin brought a nationalist platform. Trotsky wanted to keep the revolution internationalist and that was why Stalin ousted him.
Imperialism and expansionism isn't the same as internationalism.

Never has there been a more accurate usage of the term national socialism than to describe Stalinist Russia.

The Finnish lebensraum happens after all of this. After all the american pussy has been BLACKED and all the european pussy has been JIHADED and the Russians have taken over the world. That is when we strike. The finns are like cryptonite to the Russian. We will slaughter the men and enslave the women and breed new slaves with them. I will be the top bull. That is how Greater Finland will be born

America should fight Russia because they support our greatest enemies in Syria and Iran. Russia even went to Syria to support Asads Isis forces who are killing moderate rebels that want make the middle east a democracy. Russia also hacked the Democrats and it's an act of war so we need a strong experienced leader like Hillary to get elected so she can remove Putin and instill democracy in communist Russia.

If this wasn't true the news wouldn't say it because the US news is objective and truthful unlike Russia which is just propaganda about how America is a warmonger.

Putin's ideology is based on fascist philosophy such as that of Alexander Dugin.

They're so fascistic that Putin is setting up elections to be more like US Democracy

Okay, pedantics
>social democratic republic

Since the 30s when gibmedats entered the equation. Now we are a very poorly mismanaged welfare state with corporate entities lining their pockets from the executive branch down to the city council. The federal govt is such a bloated wasteful machine that I truly believe it is beyond repair

>Western (((advisors)))

Ironically those same Clinton era jewish advisors from Harvard (Larry Summers, Robert Rubin, etc) that raped Russia's economy with the jewish billionaires were the ones that ruined the US economy in 2008

It's just jews all the way down.

It doesn't matter what is it in russia, contain any ambitious power, treating to gain much influence in Europe is a cornerstone of anglo world domination since forewer. It happens that Russia was an ally in this more often than the target, even when it was fucking Stalin.

This!!!!! Sorry, fellas. #ImWithHer

Not at all. I never said fascism was an issue of democracy, though that is a factor. The EU is a liberal democracy. I'd like it to be more federalist and less intergovernmentalist though as that would make it more accountable.

Just noticed the graphic.
>implying Medvedev was anything but Putin's lapdog.

Well, yeah it became something different. That's just a testimate to how shit and unreliable communism and it's socialist doctrines is.

You do make a good argument though. National socialism would be a good way to describe it, however it is nothing like Hitler's national socialism.

I do think that Hitler did a better job with the social aspect of socialism, if you know what I mean. Stalin and the USSR didn't give a fuck about their people. Real, good, functional socialism is the result of nationalism. I don't think shoehorning them together produces good results as we saw in Russia.

Pretty sure American's enemies are the globalists and their collaborators.

Wow that's mad. Stay out of Australian Tonyphate clay and we might well have world peace after you Fingol the shit out of the slavs.

wow the kangoroo man is mad now :^)

Cept Russia doesn't have really elections. They're all rigged by local oligarchs. I know this from personal accounts of people who have counted votes in Russia and who have been removed from doing so if they refused to follow the orders of the supervisors.

I for one welcome our new Finnish overlords.

the EU is neither liberal nor a democracy

you are governed by unelected bureaucrats who are tools of globalist corporations who exist only parasitize off the productive parts of the European economy all while using those resources to grow their reach over the rest of the world via scams like the IMF.

>more federalist
>less intergovernmentalist

Jesus Christ how suicidal can one man be?

So the solution to a lack of democracy is even "less" democracy?

the EU only has the pretense of democracy

The Greater Finland is just a matter of time. Meanwhile I might just enjoy some dank memes and watch the happenings.

I can see there's a case to make that the US had some elements of social democracy after FDR up until Carter but since the 80's the US has been completely neo-liberal in ideology.
Elements of government bureaucracy doesn't change that. Social democracy was completely squashed in the US and the UK by Reagan and Thatcher.

=(

>complain about neoliberalism
>complain about Reagan and Thatcher
>support the EU the most anti democratic, pro neoliberal and pro globalist entity on earth

oh the ironing

the Eternal Anglo strikes again

Hitler was never really a national socialist. He was just a generic fascist. Even before Hitler took control of the National Socialist Party, it was considerable misnomer.
The Communist Party of the Soviet Union was far more befitting of the title.

>we should stop being bitter about Russia
>meanwhile Russia has never stopped being bitter
Seriously Ameribro, most Russian movies if not dedicated to WW2 are about how the clever Russians outsmarted the dumb Americans. Where you would think a little bit about Russia, Russians have a massive inferiority complex part of their brains dedicated solely to you

When we say it's "mad" we mean it's good. We have a hard language to learn, but you might get it one day. Start with English.

I play with a lot of russians on WoW private servers and they're all pretty cool

USSR claimed it was internationalist, just like Russia now claims it muh conservative white race savior, or that they are defenders of orthodox bretherens back in 19-th century untill great war. Russian propaganda a superb pros, serving their state, while western just a bunch of sjw, destroying theirs.

that's jews dude we dindu nuffin we swear

>most Russian movies if not dedicated to WW2 are about how the clever Russians outsmarted the dumb Americans
What's your point? Many American movies feature Russians as bad guys.

To start with they were pretty internationalist. As the bong pointed out it was Stalin that fucked that up.

But you are right. Russia is nothing but a meme from the western perspective. Lies and bullshit.

It's liberal through it's policies and democratic through its systems.

Let's debunk some myths.
First of all, the bureaucrats in the Commission are not the driving power behind the EU. Real power lies with the Council comprising the leaders of member states. Member nations are the fundamental driving force behind the EU. They're the ones who pick the Commissioners anyway.
That's where the lack of democracy comes from. Because the member states themselves have considerable democratic deficit, that scales up to the EU as well.
That's why more federalism would increase democracy and accountability. By having direct election of federal institutions, European citizens could bypass their corrupt national governments.

Explain how without the use of the word bureaucrats.

Russia and US are natural geopolitical enemies. There is a lot of disinformation on both sides but at the end of the day both states are just looking out for their own interests.

This. If this meme animosity (((some people))) desperately hold on to would finally disappear, the world would again be the playground of the white man

>inb4 slavs aren't white
They're whiter than the average American

The EU isn't antidemocratic.
The EU is neo-liberal but not fundamentally. Only because most of the member states are neo-liberal themselves.
Globalism isn't itself a bad thing. It just depends on the type of globalism. Any globalism is better than nationalism though. I'd like to see it in the form of increased intergovernmentalism and federalism rather than expanding corporatism though.