Babby wants attenchums so cant just post this in one of many existing WW threads.
It's fine. It's a safe, straight forward comic flick with decent action and heart. Yes, it sucks its better reviewed than Snyder, but it's far and away better than Russos.
Henry Foster
Everybody's expectations were low after suicide squad, it introduces a new hero in her own movie, it has a more positive and uplifting tone which feels good after the darkness the DC films have had up to this point, and the movie is really not dog shit. I agree it's not particularly good but it is decent
Jacob Harris
something something strong females make me feel insecure something
Caleb Lee
It's just as bad as any other DC movie, but everyone is pretending it's better because the MC is a woman.
Hudson Green
>Yes, it sucks its better reviewed than Snyder
Snyder's name was all over the credits. It was still pretty much his movie even if he didn't direct it in name.
Nathaniel Lee
Are you fucking stupid? No one dare criticize this film. That would make you a greedy fuck who takes two scoops, when others get only one.
Jason Martin
All the men kill themselves
Nathaniel Evans
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Yea, he had input w/ story and producer, but not head writer, or director. It's Patty Jenkins' film, obviously. That's how these things work.
Tyler Perez
>it is decent How is it decent? It's unbelievably generic. None of the characters are memorable. There aren't any memorable scenes, outside of the ones remembered for their absolute idiocy. The boat scene, the undercover scene, the last boss scene, they will all be remembered for being ridiculously bad and retarded.
Matthew Cook
>H-How is it decent if i didnt like it wtf!?
Carson Kelly
It's Jenkins movie but you'd have to be a pleb not to recognize Snyder's influence all over it.
Wyatt Taylor
Amazing insight dude, i don't wanna be a pleb after all, so yeah, its like essentially his film
Alexander Bell
>having bad romantic subplots is decent >having an MC who is too stupid to know that swinging a sword around is intimidating is decent >having an MC who is too stupid to know what a disguise is is decent >having an MC who is constantly bitching and complaining and being a total nuisance throughout the film is decent >having the villain be defeated by the power of love is decent How about that sniper guy who we pick up in the course of the movie who ends up never shooting anyone? Or the Turk and native Americans who are only there to talk about how bad white people are? Or how about downright disrespectful shit like the villagers coming out clapping after they finished killing a shit ton of German soldiers? This film is fucking atrocious.
Andrew Robinson
>Or how about downright disrespectful shit like the villagers coming out clapping after they finished killing a shit ton of German soldiers?
Ya got me, had to chuckle at that one just now
Henry Wright
>Turk complains he cannot get an acting job in 1918 >unrealistic
Native American guy didn't even blame white people. He didn't say their people and point to white sniper and Chris Pine, he blamed the Americans specifically
Daniel Peterson
Those people were put into the movie explicitly so they could have a "fuck white people" scene. The only thing the Turk did in the film was help them get into the castle, which ended up being pointless anyways.
Grayson Adams
PC my friend. PC. The movie is bland at best, on par with Thor 2.
Wait and see Black Panther scoring 100% next year because if you don't like it you're racist.
Daniel Murphy
>he blamed the Americans specifically No, he didn't blame the Americans, he pointed at the English guy and said "his people".
Connor Morgan
Societal pressure. Hating on, or just calling it average, will get you lynched by SJW. No one wants to be sacrificed on the altar of PC bullshit.
Isaac Miller
didn't non-americans view america as an untapped land of endless opportunity in the early 1900s? Isn't that why people from all over the world were constantly moving there?
Owen Rodriguez
You know what would make the Wonder Woman outfit perfect? A pair of black fishnet stockings.
Anyway I haven't seen the movie, so whatever.
Kayden Lopez
Dude, he specifically pointed at Chris Pine. Are you blind?
Colton Harris
The theme was war is endemic to mankind, no matter their national allegiance, hope this helps you fucking aspie.
Jaxson Long
WW is good. Get over it.
Connor Carter
>>Turk complains he cannot get an acting job in 1918 I guess the Armenian genocide doesn't look that good on resume.
Ayden Hernandez
>Why are people pretending this movie is good?
underdog complex. everyone wants dc to succeed because marvel is such a huge shitshow not to mention that DC has the better characters that everyone grew up with
Leo Stewart
see>>having bad romantic subplots is decent >>having an MC who is too stupid to know that swinging a sword around is intimidating is decent >>having an MC who is too stupid to know what a disguise is is decent >>having an MC who is constantly bitching and complaining and being a total nuisance throughout the film is decent >>having the villain be defeated by the power of love is decent
Andrew Jenkins
That doesn't have anything to do with the Turk, but considering that US-Native wars went on into the early 20th century, of course a Native American would have a bit of resentment to Americans around that time period
Ian Bell
>Having bad romantic subplots is decent Except it wasn't >having an MC who is too stupid to know that swinging a sword around is intimidating is decent Wonder Woman being unfamiliar with modern society has been an element of her origin story for a while now. >having an MC who is too stupid to know what a disguise is is decent Again, why would she have ever needed a disguise in her life? Why would that idea even be necessary in that society? >having an MC who is constantly bitching and complaining and being a total nuisance throughout the film is decent Things that never happened >having the villain be defeated by the power of love is decent You straight up don't like the high concept of Wonder Woman if you're not a fan of that.
Camden Bennett
>he blamed the Americans specifically What is wrong with this? the white colonizers who created america did do terrible things to native americans, the ripped apart what civilization they had and created one in their image
Isaac Gutierrez
That's a bit of a gross oversimplification, but I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it. I'm just saying that the Native American character blamed Americans specifically, not white people generally
Aiden Mitchell
>youtube reviewers there's your problem kys
Liam Jones
>the ripped apart what civilization they had >Native Americans >civilized LOL
William Ward
Uncivilized people don't build cities on lakes
Aaron Garcia
>Or how about downright disrespectful shit like the villagers coming out clapping after they finished killing a shit ton of German soldiers? Wasn't going to watch it but you've convinced me.
Camden Martinez
>the ripped apart what civilization they had and created one in their image Those dastardly colonialists, leaving a trail of hospitals and universities in their merciless wake!
Charles Martinez
>created america did do terrible things to native americans I know, how come Mexicans got away with it? Literally descendant from the Spanish colonizers and rapists that wiped out the Natives' culture but no one complains. Hell, they even complain they are the victims somehow? lol wtf Mexico, fess up to your historical crimes!
Michael Miller
The Germans fucked with Belgian civilians quite a bit in WW1. Since I think the movie was set there, what's unrealistic about villagers being happy about dead Germans?
Jaxon Richardson
>Cr1tikal I haven't seen the film so I can't speak to it, but why would you name drop this guy as some kind of authority?
Jose Diaz
Complain to Mexicans and/or Spaniards then, not white people.
Elijah Ward
>Or how about downright disrespectful shit like the villagers coming out clapping after they finished killing a shit ton of German soldiers? This film is fucking atrocious. I'd clap too if someone killed my tormentors desu.
Owen Brown
>main character is a female >main actress is a jew >director is a female >trump is president >DCfanboys
Whenever something is politicized or virtue signals based on race, sex or religion. IGNORE all praise it gets that mentions these things
Wyatt Hall
Capeshit culture. Anything basically, averagely competently written is a masterpiece of cinema now. Film is dead and utterly meaningless once they leave the theater.
Evan Phillips
I just want to know how can anyone think Gal Gadot was good
Ethan Morales
Just for argument's sake, the difference between Mexico and the US is that Mexico arguably retains more of its native culture than the US does. There are probably more Mexicans of Maya, Aztec, Mixtec, whatever-tec descent than there are Americans of Native descent, and I mean that excluding the ones who have a great great great great Cherokee grandmother
Grayson Morgan
>being unfamiliar with modern society So this warrior lady doesn't know how to handle a sword in front of others. Alright. >why would she have ever needed a disguise in her life? It doesn't matter. She is fucking over the people trying to help he because she's too stubborn and retarded to wear a disguise when they tell her to. >Things that never happened Except it did happen. Wonder woman was being a total cunt throughout the entire film, emotionally bitching and complaining about absolutely everything.
James Wright
>b-but it will get bad reviews >does well on RT >b-but it will do bad at the box office >it does well >b-but SJWs >director literally says it isn't feminist, there is nothing feminist in the movie to the point where marvelfags literally have to make shit up to criticize it >b-but it's like ghostbusters >audience score is high, is praised online, unlike ghostbusters >b-b-b-but When will you marvelfags stop moving the goalposts? The movie did literally nothing wrong. APOLOGIZE
Jason Baker
What didn't you like about her? She wasn't boring, she had good chemistry with Pine, and her emotional scenes landed well. Hell, I thought it was a complete upgrade from her performance in BvS, and I didn't have a problem with her in that.
Hunter Stewart
>Thrilling, earnest, and buoyed by Gal Gadot's charismatic performance, Wonder Woman succeeds in spectacular fashion. >Gal Gadot's charismatic performance,
Carter Anderson
>Spaniards aren't white wew
The Natives in the Continental US did build cities, you know. Cahokia etc.
Joseph Gray
>So this warrior lady doesn't know how to handle a sword in front of others. Alright. She never had to in Themyscira. >It doesn't matter. She is fucking over the people trying to help he because she's too stubborn and retarded to wear a disguise when they tell her to. She doesn't get why she has to disguise herself. Refer to the previous point. >Except it did happen. Wonder woman was being a total cunt throughout the entire film, emotionally bitching and complaining about absolutely everything. She didn't bitch and complain, the fuck are you talking about?
Jonathan Adams
>She is fucking over the people trying to help he because she's too stubborn and retarded to wear a disguise when they tell her to.
Wow, this is a very important point. I hate this piece of shit now wtf
Camden Young
>(((youtube reviewers)))
Josiah Myers
>30 pounds ago wew, you sure showed them.
Hunter Lee
>Spaniards are white wew, good one Pablo
>The Natives in the Continental US did build cities Well maybe if they didn't break damn near every treaty they wouldn't gotten BTFO by their technological superiors.
Ayden Ross
Ghostbusters has a 53 percent audience score and had one of the most hated trailers on YouTube. WW has a 93 percent audience score and had been universally praised online. Try again Marvelshill
Ethan Roberts
>I'm just saying that the Native American character blamed Americans specifically I don't really see anything wrong with that? they had language and their own culture, they might not have been europeans, but only europeans can build european civilizations I agree, I prefer european civilizations and societies to ones that are not my own, but for the native american colonists, it was an act of tearing up something that they considered theirs >I know, how come Mexicans got away with it? I wouldn't really disagree that spanish colonists tore up different indigenous populations
Luke Edwards
>so this warrior lady doesn't know how to handle a sword in front of others. Alright No, it's more that everyone else she's ever been around was also brandishing a sword, so she's confused as to why people gave so much of a shit about it. >It doesn't matter. She is fucking over the people trying to help he because she's too stubborn and retarded to wear a disguise when they tell her to. No, she's trying to get to the front to stop the war as soon as possible. It's not on her to realize that there's a whole bunch of bureaucratic bullshit standing in the way. >Except it did happen. Wonder woman was being a total cunt throughout the entire film, emotionally bitching and complaining about absolutely everything. No, if anything, the rest of her supporting cast spent too much time bitching at her.
Caleb Young
>WW has a 93 percent audience score Yes, from all the fanboys that saw it opening night and would like it no matter what
>Try again Marvelshill Not an arguement
Leo Ross
Look, I'm not one of those Natives dindu nuffin shills, but you're fucking talking out of your ass if you think the Natives were wholly to blame for treaties being broken. There's plenty of blame to go around. Also nice goalpost shifting, we were talking about whether or not they were civilized, not whether or not they were breaking treaties
Noah Thompson
>tfw friend wants to see this movie badly but I have no interest at all >tfw he wanted to watch Hidden Figures earlier this week
Ryder Fisher
So, how long will it take before you'll admit it was a good film that was pretty universally well-liked? Because there's only so many damage control excuses that you can make.
Henry Gutierrez
The point is if it's actually an SJW movie then people will know and shit on it online. The only people bitching about SJW shit now are marvelfags who haven't seen it and have to make shit up. Try again Marvelshill
James Howard
>their technological superiors Oh wow, seriously? Have we stooped this low? How disappointing, you're use language like this. Pathetic.
Aaron Price
>Just for argument's sake, the difference between Mexico and the US is... Mexicans literally wiped out the natives and their culture and forcefully assimilated damn near all of them. Stupid white Americans built reservations for their Natives rather than just wiping them out.
True enough, white people fucked up. They could have spared themselves a lot of headaches. I mean it worked pretty damn well for Muslims in the Middle East. You don't gotta worry about BLM bullshit if you castrate and kill your slaves once you're done with them.
White people are retarded, they just keep showing mercy instead of properly suppressing minorities like everyone else.
Xavier Ortiz
Both are good movies.
Adrian Torres
>he wanted to watch Hidden Figures What the fuck is wrong with your friend?
Thomas Ward
>paying to see capeshit
Camden Nguyen
I haven't seen Hidden Figures, but I know for a fact that it's bad. Ask me anything.
Joshua Butler
What's your general opinion on black people?
Chase Barnes
They good people, they should just stop commit so much crime. Like nigga, just stop killing and raping and walk away, how you gonna be a criminal non-stop?
Eli Foster
Generally unintelligent people who produce almost nothing of worth. The US would objectively be better off by every metric if they all disappeared.
Evan Bell
Bullshit it's better than the Russos.
Ian Miller
did you just choose to make up your own version of history?
How can "Mexicans" wipe out natives and assimilate their culture? Mexicans are the fucking blended culture themselves, you cockfuck. Spaniards + Aztecs = Mexicans. It's not that fucking difficult. The reason Juan who mows your lawn looks like he could have cut your heart out and thrown you down a pyramid 500 years ago is because he's a descendant of one of those natives. They didn't get wiped out, otherwise all Mexicans would be white Spaniards.
Holy fucking shit you're retarded. Muslims also didn't butcher slaves en masse. Almost no slaving culture, including whites, did. What's the point of a fucking slave if you kill them? The Muslim world had it's own slave rebellions, the Sultans who kept slave Turk armies had them all turn against them after the Turks gained enough power
Nathaniel Young
Our music would be a lot shittier.
Joseph Barnes
>She wasn't boring I will give you that, but not entirely as there are parts where she is boring. This isn't because of her acting skills though, but due to the script and how the director wanted the character to be.
>she had good chemistry with Pine And surely Pine had the most to do with that. He always has chemistry with his co-stars.
>and her emotional scenes landed well some were passable, some were bad
She's not entirely awful, and she's not the worst actress in a big movie ever. But she delivers many lines terribly, stilted, and sometimes amateurish over the top.
The only reason she is being praised is because she wasn't total monotonic and the characterization was better than the typical DCEU protagonist that just mopes around. Displaying a wider range of tones doesn't mean delivering them well.
Sebastian Bennett
I dont plan to see it, actually i don't watch capeshit since i saw the avengers and I was amazed at how some people claim is a good movie...
So when people that probably think avengers is a good movie says this is a bad movie i can only asume that thanks to saxisms finally you see capeshit for what it is, shit. Too bad you still have no clue.
Levi Sanchez
Not all Mexicans are mixed, there are plenty of Mexicans with white Spanish heritage.
Jace Ramirez
I don't see how our music would change considering current day music produced by black culture is terrible.
Anthony Evans
>Implying Indians built cities
Owen Martin
No, it very easily is. They're vastly overrated here. Jenkins is a far superior director. Her action work is only decent but still much better than their quick-cutting disorienting nothingness. She can also frame shots, use mise-en-scene and cinematography to her advantage. Russos are sub-CW tier.
Caleb Lopez
>Muslims also didn't butcher slaves en masse Are you insane? Yes they did, at least in the African slave trade.
Dominic Russell
It's a fucking capeshit, how can it be good?
Samuel Morris
>How can "Mexicans" wipe out natives and assimilate their culture? Mexicans are the fucking blended culture themselves, you cockfuck. Spaniards + Aztecs = Mexicans. It's not that fucking difficult. Ah, so Mexicans are literally descendant from the rapist colonizers? Thanks for clearing that up Juan.
>Holy fucking shit you're retarded. Muslims also didn't butcher slaves en masse. Lol of course they did. Muslims killed far more black people than anyone else (well aside from blacks themsvels probably), not that "Muslims" is an ethnic group. They had no reason to keep slaves around because black salves were cheaply available in all port cities. Europeans had to keep the around since they had to get them across an ocean, their supply was far more limited.
>Turkey I don't care, they barely dealt with black slaves and technically aren't even in the Middle East.
Benjamin Mitchell
Batman was good.
Levi Morgan
Rock N' Roll, soul, blues, all of that shit would have never happened.
Grayson Walker
If black people disappeared now, read the original post it didn't say they disappeared years ago. And that's under the assumption that white people wouldn't have made that music which is purely speculative.
Samuel Robinson
>Turkey isn't in the middle east Shows how little you know.
Dominic Hall
yeah, the 1989 one. That was specifically because it wasn't capeshit, Batman is not presented as anything more than a delusional, violent vigilante.
Christian Morgan
>That was specifically because it wasn't capeshit, Batman is not presented as anything more than a delusional, violent vigilante.
>It's not 'capeshit' if i like it!
Lucas Thomas
>semantics kek When people talk about the Middle East they rarely mean Anatolia.
John Mitchell
WW != Black Canary
Ethan Smith
Not quite. It's not capeshit because the presentation is radically different, you don't have a "superhero" with all the comicbook bullshit in that film. Sure it's somewhat silly at points and the Joker is a ridiculously over the top villain and you do have that stereotypical origin story going on, but it never presents the supposed superhero as anything but what he actually is. A masked man who injures and kills people, because they do things the masked man doesn't want them to do.
Zachary Ortiz
anawhat?
Zachary Murphy
>She is fucking over the people trying to help he because she's too stubborn and retarded to wear a disguise when they tell her to. I haven't seen this yet, but that's not really a reason that would make it a bad film. I mean, characters aren't allowed to be stupid or inconvenient? What?
The studios are paying the biggest youtube channels to promote their shitty blockbusters. They do the same for every Star Wars movie under Disney
Carson Murphy
Holy fuck you dumbass, the Arab Sultans had Turkish slaves who rebelled against them. This is how the Abbasid Dynasty became puppets of their Turkish Buyid slave mamelukes in the 10th century. How is basic reading comprehension so far beyond you? This has nothing to do with Turkey being in Anatolia, it has everything to do with the Turks being in the Middle East under the control of Arab sultans.
The Arabs also didn't murder their slaves when they were done with them. From Wikipedia:
A system of plantation labor, much like that which would emerge in the Americas, developed early on, but with such dire consequences that subsequent engagements were relatively rare and reduced. Moreover, the need for agricultural labor, in an Islam with large peasant populations, was nowhere near as acute as in the Americas.[13] Slaves in Islam were mainly directed at the service sector - concubines and cooks, porters and soldiers - with slavery itself primarily a form of consumption rather than a factor of production.[13] The most telling evidence for this is found in the gender ratio; among black slaves traded in Islamic empire across the centuries, there were roughly two females to every male.[13] Almost all female slaves had domestic occupations.
Not to mention that the Ottomans and others took slaves and turned them into governors, rulers, and elite soldiers.