So what happened to this place after the arab spring? Are they on path to democracy now?

So what happened to this place after the arab spring? Are they on path to democracy now?

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I thought the whole "Arab Spring" meme was a failure.

I wouldn't describe it as a failure since it did bring some change to the region, even if it was for the worse. The young people that revolted in 2011 due to their increased awareness of their rights and their access to information thanks to modern technologies has only increased in numbers, and got more experience. Down the line the arab spring will be remembered as the beginning for a greater change in the future.

They made it legal for Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men
It was a failure in most of the Arab World but it worked in Tunisia

Yes but our economy is very 'meh' and all our parties lack any actual strong economic ideology, i saw once a member of a '''''socialist''''' party saying that income taxes are too high just so he can please the viewers.

Dey wuz vandals n shit yo

Ah, thanks guys.

so it was a failure.

also, are you for real in palestina?

Orob Sprong

In short term speak, for some countries it was, for others like Tunis they have democracy now.
And, yes. I do live in palestina

>islam
>democracy

We don't have shariah law so how can islam stop classical democracy?

Meant to quote

well, if they get democracy that's good. but increased awareness doesn't mean much.

as it is increased it can be decreased, sadly.

> I do live in palestina
how is the situation there? after trump decided to do something stupid

Chariah ou mort!!

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Didn't the guys who started the Arab Spring get the Nobel peace prize?

>but increased awareness doesn't mean much
>as it is increased it can be decreased, sadly.
I would've said the same thing if this happened a few decades ago, you are underestimating what access to information can do to people, before information was controlled but not now. The only thing an authoritarian regime can do in our times is to distract people from their problems by flooding the information channels with their populist propaganda, but in countries which real life issues like poverty and unemployment are reaching critical levels, propaganda can't go far since it gets easier for people to distinguish it, and it is happening in Egypt where the regime is constantly ridiculed by the people for its propaganda, and the only thing that's stopping the people from returning to the streets is fear of losing safety again, but just like before problems will reach a point of no return and then the experience of the arab spring will pay its dividends.


Nothing much changed, the people don't seem to find this motivating enough to start a new intifada and the government is trying to cover its failures by announcing a day of rage every week and the numbers are dropping each time to the degree of a few dozen government activists posing for camera.

well you are right.
here we have the same problem. when shit hits the fan the media can't save the goverment.

the problem is that when people wake up, we are already fucked.
and as soon as the bad goberment is replaced all the problems start to desapeir and people "fall asleep" again, until the next big crisis.

so we move from one crisis to another (with some good years in the middle), never solving our problems for good.

>Nothing much changed
do you think the jews will ever let you have a better life?

Sisi is not dealing with the country's manifold problems too well but would Mursi have been? Would be great to see but I've lost all hope in the region being manageable by less than a strongman: seems like it's just exchanging one ill for another.

That's a valid point, even revolutionary France reverted back to authoritarianism under Bonaparte, but if it weren't for that first revolution they wouldn't have become what they are today. Revolution isn't just a simple step that can be done in one year, sometimes it takes multiple generations for it to have a lasting effect, people are prone to do mistakes, and time will make them learn from them.

>do you think the jews will ever let you have a better life?
Nope, we are stuck like this for the foreseeable future until there's a major change in mentality or in power balance.

Egyptians are dumb, when the election time came there were multiple moderate presidential candidates, too many and that was their problem they stole victory from each other and handed over to power hungry Muslim Brotherhood, Mursi would've had a good chance at staying president if he didn't go full retard and started implementing his islamic power grab which handed the SISI and his ilk the right propaganda against its regime and used it with the secular youth that created the revolution to revolt again against mursi. To answer your question shortly, no since mursi had a chance and he ruined it.

egyptian failed state when
morsi prison break when

>making an actually decent and informative thread on Sup Forums
You don't seem to understand how this works

well, i hope you the best bro.

kuffar

>then the experience of the arab spring will pay its dividends.
why are you so sure it will be positive?

Why do you think Jews don't want you to live a good life.