Star Trek Discovery will die an unfair death

I already know the outcome of Star Trek Discovery. All of the Autist Trek fanboys will take a huge piling shit on this show simply because they will judge every little thing not being like "MUH ORIGINALS."

And we'll have the slew of alt-right faggots saying, "W-WELL IT'S PANDERING TO THE SJW CROWD." and will also shit on it, but have no idea that Star Trek has always been progressive with their futuristic society. I'm also a far-right conservative, and even with my friends being Liberals, I respect what they believe in, and that includes Star Trek.

Ultimately, this show will be judged unfairly and then the eventual death of Trek. It was only given one more shot because of the movies doing really well.

Enjoy the show while it lasts.

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I think it's in trouble, but no for the same reason.

Making it CBS Go exclusive in the US is a huge mistake. I don't foresee the show doing well regardless of it's content.

Besides that, if it doesn't hold up to what came before it then what right does it have to do well?

I'm a right wing conservative, (not alt right whatever that means) and I think the new show will be Fine.

>Making it CBS Go exclusive in the US is a huge mistake

I don't understand why they would do this?

I wonder if they did this because they know Star Trek is a popular franchise and thinking maybe it would help push CBS Go into the mainstream audience? Still kind of a shitty decision on their part if that's the case.

Also, it doesn't matter. Pirateers will torrent and seed the shit out of it.

It's funded by Netflix, pretty sure it's coming to Netflix.

>if it doesn't hold up to what came before it then what right does it have to do well?

Is it arrogant for me to say this.. Giving it views and positive reviews would ensure Trek's TV revival for the coming future. I know it sounds shitty but I would go out of my way to do that.

Trek is such a popular TV franchise. It cannot fail at all.

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The show will fail because CBS is a dinosaur company and the model they're presenting the show through is begging for failure. No one cares what triggered Sup Forumstards think.

>I'm also a far-right conservative, and even with my friends being Liberals, I respect what they believe in, and that includes Star Trek.
You friends believe in Star Trek?

>Autist Trek fanboys

Alrighty then. You've insulted, and hate one overly generalized side over another.

Your opinion is useless.

It's coming to Netflix outside America.

It'll be a success worldwide and a failure inside America.

Which means that it wll be canceled despite being a success, because America is the only market that matters to CBS.

It's on Netflix outside the US. If you're in the US it's CBS Go exclusive.

"Commander Ryker, what are sex organs?"

Autism is literally the only explanation for why fanboys still pretend TOS is the best series when it aged like milk and is laughably bad.

>Autism is literally the only explanation

So untrue, but you've convinced yourself of that lie. Have a nice life.

I forget, does doing some fuckery with your IP still allow you to access Netflix in say.....Canada?

No, filthy ningen, its too much like muh originals. Thats the problem. Its easy to market the Abrams aesthetic and themes, its all, "GREEN BABES AND KILINGONS BABYYYYY" Which is all that this will be.

Go to a Star Trek message board or chat room. They'll nitpick the fuck out of Discovery. It's all the same shit.

Well this is better news than I had expected.

>Star Trek has been progressive
I keep seeing this over and over again as if it's a smug perfect rebuttal of what people are complaining about. There are different degrees of being progressive. TNG's two main, arguably, characters were two white men. The trailer for Discovery mostly features a black woman and an asian woman. I'm assuming Michelle Yeoh dies fairly early on and Sonequa Martin is transferred to be under Jason Isaacs, who is white, but still. It's not that I don't want minority/female characters, but it IS annoying that they decided they had to have a minority female lead and then struggled with finding someone until they got Sonequa, who is a shitty actress. Compare her to Patrick Stewart, for God's sake. Why not try to get the best actor/actress you can get for that role regardless of their gender or ethnicity?

I also think, in practical terms, having a black female lead will hurt the show's popularity. Audiences prefer content led by actors and actresses who look like them and they can identify with. What percentage of the Star Trek fanbase do you think are black women? What about white guys?

Trek is already dead, this will be it's final death knell, and good honestly because we will never get another TNG, or DS9 in this day and age. The old shows blended diversity seamlessly, it never beat you over the head with it. But this show does, and will.

Not to mention the production troubles. This shit is going to crash and burn.

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It looks like a steaming pile o' shoit despite this anyway

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Which means that it wll be canceled despite being a success, because America is the only market that matters to CBS.

Lol I think they just care about the money.

>And we'll have the slew of alt-right faggots saying, "W-WELL IT'S PANDERING TO THE SJW CROWD." and will also shit on it, but have no idea that Star Trek has always been progressive with their futuristic society.
Last night I saw a Sup Forumstard complaining that the new show's main cast will have non-whites, non-males, non-straights and non-humans.

Complaining about non-humans in the main cast of a Star Trek.

If I wasn't already convinced that most of the outrage is fake and manufactured by tourists, that would have sealed the deal.

Set course for diversity!

>it's funded by Neelix

Nitpicking is what we do as generation immersed in on screen entertainment. OP's argument is that one side is better than the other. That's a tired old argument that doesn't provide any deeper insight.

>The old shows blended diversity seamlessly, it never beat you over the head with it. But this show does, and will.

You haven't even seen the new show yet to make your statement valid.

>rumors without sources

Only way to do that is use a range vpn and they'll probably block you at dns.

And somehow Commander Benjamin Sisko and Captain Janeway don't count you fucking retard?

First half of the video is fact as he says, second half is rumors like he says.

Also midnight edge is never wrong. Don't be upset that you are so thirsty for new trek that you are willing to literally eat shit from CBS.

>Also midnight edge is never wrong.
Their last video said that STD would be canceled and never even air. I'm still waiting on that to happen.

>OP's argument is that one side is better than the other. That's a tired old argument that doesn't provide any deeper insight.

That's not that I was implying. Maybe everyone should keep an open mind before making a negative judgement about it?

Both of them were great actors, there was nuance there, things that set that show apart. It wasn't wow this guy is black, lets focus on that every episode you retard.

>Ultimately, this show will be judged unfairly and then the eventual death of Trek. It was only given one more shot because of the movies doing really well.

Beyond bombed. Which is logic since the trainwrech that Into Darkness was.

They never said that, they said that there are people who are worried it won't, not that it WILL. Dumbass, why are you so upset at midnight edge? Because they are always right so you have to twist their words to make yourself feel better?

I'm already bored by the blue/grey/orange SciFi-look. Funny enough, the USS Discovery, everybody hated when they revealed her, is the most interesting and unique design so far.

>It wasn't wow this guy is black, lets focus on that every episode you retard.

And it hasn't yet for Discovery you dumb fuck.

Im sure you will be down with the tranny doctor.

Posts like this make me =] in the way of marketing BS... Godspeed user!

But that is the political climate of today, star trek always reflected that. We already know what it's going to be. I will be actually surprised if it isn't, and I think you know this as well. You are in denial.

Will there be actual diversity like in multinational or will it be just muh US minorities?

There is no show they could make that could out tumblr, tumblr.

I'm willing to bet that Discovery will not do this. You alt-right faggots are blowing shit out of proportion. Screencap this and let yourself know how much of a dumbass you are.

>But that is the political climate of today

And there's a lot of shit going on today and anything can be used in this show. But none of this faggotry.

Did anyone else think they were really fucking stupid to put an alien character in the show who's species only purpose is to sense death? What the fuck was that all about?

>He never watched Star Trek

Well, so far I'm going to guess that the female Captain you see in the trailer is straight up from China rather than like Harry Kim where he was an Asian American.

Look at TV and how it is today, you really think Star Trek will be different? Especially since Fuller left? HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>muh Sup Forums Why are you so defensive user? You must have some doubts, but your love of trek is really hurting your perception of the show. I think you will be surprised just how much of a departure there will be and that the nuance of trek will be lost completely.

All that matters is if the characters are likeable. So far I have my doubts.

I wish it was TNNG. They must have felt they had nowhere else to discover for the "discovery".

I watched everything, I just doubt we will ever see something like a french Captain again.

>Because they are always right
If Midnight's Edge is so reliable, then why does nobody else on the internet report what they say?

Why do you keep pretending that you aren't them?

Why are you so unprofessional that you lost control of your own domain name?
MidnightsEdge.net

Another example of, "NOT LIKE M-MUH ORIGINALS! SO IT MUST BE SHIT"

Would be fitting for Babylon 5 but sounds dumb for Trek.

>Lowers the Nazi to the floor because him being the useful idiot of an egotistical maniac isn't justification for risking infliction unneccesary brain injury

Kirk truely best captain.

His people were engineered for that purpose, but he as an individual will seek out his own unique purpose in life.

I don't know why they are always right, I think it's crazy that they are the only one who is consistently right about everything even though noone else gets this information. But for years time and time again their entire rumor circulation has consistently been on the money.

Take that what you will. The show is called STD.

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHA

you mean not like Star Trek

Based on the trailer it did not provide any hint of inspiration other than a black woman rebelling against the establishment.
If art is supposed to provide inspiration, or interest perhaps it should be less obvious that it is mechanically created for politically correct intentions to preach one sided views over another.
We've seen this exact form of political correctness for well over three decades progress to the redundancy it is now. People can spot this coming a mile away because this form of political correctness continues to be over done, and leaving us feeling empty because it has nothing more to say but the usual one side is right the other is wrong. After over three to four decades of entertainment say:"White men are the root of all evil, and greed.", don't you believe white men have caught on? This is not helping either side by blaming one side over another.
If the creators were interested in truly inspiring interest they should have been smart enough to be aware, and find better ways to convey a message for everyone instead of the usual.

>wanting another deep sleep 9

Are you retarded?

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They're playing the "you have to like it or you're a racist" card. The bad press from people being upset over a black female lead is nothing compared to the bad press for it not being a diverse casting. Modern popular film/tv is done user. You can't have it without this overly forced diversity crap.

>still upset 7 years later

>A group of ragtag heroes fighting off a very evil organization
>Main character happens to be black
>"SJW SJW SJW SJW SJW"

Why do you want another French Captain? How does it hold any relevancy on a good Trek show? You're retarded.

Yeah that still doesn't sound retarded at all.

Shouldn't there be a, I don't know, Alien captain? Wouldn't that be diversity in the Star Trek universe?

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the show looks fucking terrible from the trailer, i'll pirate it, and i'm sure most others will too
the world doesnt need more netflix clones

>leading black woman fights the establishment of aliens who are white men with pointy ears

Can't get any more clear as to the SJW message there.

Wow, you actually are retarded. Either that or somewhat of an illiterate.

>Far-Left: "FUCKING RACIST HAVING A FUCKING WHITE MALE BE THE PROTAGONIST!!!"

>Far-Right: "FUCKING SJW'S AND THEIR PROPAGANDA! MAKING THE MAIN CHARACTER OF COLOR TO BE ASIAN, BLACK OR WHATEVER IS ALL JUST PANDERING TO MINORITIES AND THE SJW AGENDA!"

Literally how can we even make a character that's not based on skin color? Either side will cry like stupid fucking bitches.

a caveat - Sisko is at his best, as an actor, when he gets thrown back in time and has to yell about race relations that he as a character couldn't or wouldn't even understand.

And on Janeway, they never got a consistent character down with her, she was all over the place and inconsistent in all of her ideals and orders. She was the perfect female captain in her ineffectiveness and incompetence. I'd still protect that smile.

Is that guy on the left really the captain? He looks like a heroin addict or like he's dying from AIDS or something.

>Literally how can we even make a character that's not based on skin color?

Hmmmmmmmmm? How? I wonder?

Just ignore the hysterical bitches at either end of the horseshoe.

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It's about Klingons you dingus.

>guy

Well his character's name suggest that he will be an alien. Which would be pretty cool to be honest.

Or maybe he's a Spaniard.

Why not just make them an Andorian

His skin is still white, according to SJW's.

Frankly, if the spastics in the alt right hadn't kicked up such a fuss about Sexually Treksmitted's failure to meet it's white alpha male quota, the spastics in the far left probably would have kicked off about how the Klingon's depiction is racist.

Now that Fuller left, I don't think anybody there knows what that is.

The captain is Jason Isaacs, so no, that's just Sup Forums propaganda.

Can't do that after the misgivings about Shran. No trek fan would accept sloppy seconds when we could have had prime Combs.

Joe Menosky tho.

Fuller is a legit homo, see what he is doing to American Gods. Artsy Homo porn out of Hannibal and you act like that isn't tumblr?

His opening for season 3 of hannibal reminded me of a stale gay orgy but with food instead of fags.

Fuller is fucking terrible, so it was always going to be cancer anyway, without him it will just be disingenuous cancer full of liberals smelling their own ass.

I don't even like Fuller, but he has experience and made Star Trek before, I don't watch hannibal or american gods.

All I know about this show is that the new ship design looks retarded and the cgi looks the same or worse-than Deep Space Nine. I might check it out but my hopes aren't high.

American Gods is kino. Gorgeous cinematography and it doesn't try to be bland and palatable to normies.

STD looks and feels like JJ shit. Since we're going to have liberal politics anyway, it would have been better to serve them up with Fuller's vision for a proper look and feel.

I'm a liberal and Star Trek Discovery is clearly pandering to the SJW crowd.

Yes I ignore all this political bullshit surrounding it (when people don't realize how much how other series, hell even the original was outside of norms of their times) and put more at fault to the fact that they are using it to push another stupid subscription service.

I'm going to try a different tact with this since threads are usually just circle jerks of bitching.

What would a non-progressive view of scifi/space show look like. Doesn't have to be conservative, just a lack of endless virtual signalling and causes. You're still going to get political issues since all shows get them, but how would you define it, how could it be written, and with how should it be presented.

Feel free to ad lib as necessary to make your point and anyone can jump in, but let's try something constructive for once.

I think it's more likely that the show will just be shit instead of the "Alt-Right" boogeyman destroying it.

Firefly kind of already did it.

If they even fund space travel at all it would all be controlled by big corporations , so I guess kind of like avatar ?

People only talk about Fermi's Paradox when discussing possible alien life. There is another theory as to why we don't see signs of alien life, no other alien race is dumb enough. They understand its a zero sum game of being exposed, vulnerable, dead. With relativistic ballistics you could destroy a planet without that planet even knowing. They wake up dead.

Have mankind go out into space and meet aliens like that, aliens that want to wipe us out as a measure of protecting themselves. Have mankind get obliterated and all thats left are the small pockets that can hide away without being noticed.

It would make for a terrible show but thats what I would do.

You misunderstand. The alt-right doesn't destroy Star Trek itself. It just destroys Star Trek threads.

Like the comic "Prophet" by image. Make the future and mankind so alien that the average viewer has almost no connection to them or their lifestyles. Make it a horror of possibilities.

getting this butthurt over a frankly accurate statement can only be the result of autism

I would so like to see some Firefly like Trek. Away from Starfleet, just some civilian guys working in space getting dragged into an adventure.

No you're a retard get your dumb fucking thread off my board