Suicide Squad

So you guys realize there's almost no chance of this being good, right?

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I prefer DC to Marvel but I've given up hope of any live-action DC movie ever being good.

They're too scared of being true to the comics and keep trying to dumb everything down and grit-ify all of their characters in an attempt to appease the lowest common denominator, while Marvel movies actually look like Marvel movies. (Sans stupid shit like the Mandarin.)

>Marvel fans are sad that DC keeps making bad movies

>Character ensemble movie
>Cast an a-lister whose contract requires that his face appear in 90% of scenes.
>Even sex scenes he's not in

I'm fine with Thug Joker, and I think Leto will pull it off unless the directing was just outright asinine. I'm pretty sure Wol Smoth's required majority of the screen time combined with him being Wol Smoth is going to sink the movie, though. Like if I thought they could reign him in he might be almost passable as this version of Deadshot, but I don't believe there is a director alive who can break that bronco nowadays and keep him from mugging for the camera.

just lemme dream dude

>>Cast an a-lister whose contract requires that his face appear in 90% of scenes.
>>Even sex scenes he's not in

sauce ?

You do realize you made a shitty thread not conducive to any sort of constructive discussion?

just like every other on-topic thread on Sup Forums

I do this for you, user. If you build up your hopes and dreams for something that previous evidence has indicated is going to be bad, who does that hurt? Not me.

I think Leto and Affleck as just as big, if not bigger, as present day Will Smith, dude. I'm much more concerned about Joker hijacking this movie than Deadshot.

Honestly, it looks like it could be good. Won't take itself too seriously, so it's already miles ahead of BvS or MoS, and I have much more faith in Ayer than Snyder.

We'll have to see how things pan out.

Zack is still executive producing, so I'm cautious.

Oh boy it's this namefag again

Neither one has a reputation as an outright scene grabbing/rewrite this script to include more of me prima donna, though.

The first trailer seemed promising because of just how hard it was harping on GotG
>upbeat 80's music
>team of anti-heroes coming together for the greater good
>TRIGGER WARNING: quips
But good Christ, Leto and Ayer are fucking killing all hope I have for this fucking movie with their pathetic "I saw Leto put on his shoes THEN put on his pants!! I CAN'T TELL WHERE THE ACTOR ENDS AND THE JOKER BEGINS!!!"

I was really hoping for a lighthearted little ensemble movie to give us a break from DC's line of dark, realistic horse shit, but none of it means a Goddamn thing when the main fucking character is trying to pull off Heath Ledger 2.0.

Sup.

Yeah.
And I don't care. If I hard good things about it I'll see it, if not I will ignore it and save $10.
There are good and mad movies every week, this one won't change my life one way or the other.

>main fucking character
>implying the joker will have more than 3 lines in the movie
You do realize they're just marketing the shit out of him because people liked him in the Dark Knight? No way will the Joker be even a secondary character here.

Why can't both Marvel and DC fans want each other's movies to be good?

They do, you're just distracted by their vocal minorities since they're louder.

I hate Jews

I do want them to be good, but they won't because DC already fucked up with bvs, and they will fuck up again with ss and jl.

You seem like a reasonable user. Tell me, should I watch Batman V. Superman. I'll be honest, the hate for the movie drove me away to see it in theaters. But, I saw a clip of Batman saving MARTHAAAAAAAA, and it caught my interest

Yep.

The writing isn't great, it's obvious a lot of stuff was cut. I had a discussion with my buddy about it, the writing is subpar but goddamn if it isn't the most beautiful capeshit I've ever seen, I thought it was worth it for the cinematography and choreography alone. If I were you I'd wait for the directors cut tho.

It wasn't for me, but if you like the characters and prefer a more serious tone then you might enjoy it.

Alright, and one more question. Is Not Luthor as bad as they say? From the trailers, I wanted to punch Eisenberg

If it's bad,never better. I can at least laugh at how absurd it is for being shitty and insane.

I mean, BvS and MoS were bad, but they're not even enjoyably bad because they're just so downtrodden in Zack Snyder's washed-down style of being dull, and "serious" all the time with no expressions other than a grim frown on everyone's face—including Superman.

He's an unlikable dick. He is a bit annoying and what makes him act crazy at the end is kind of outta the blue. He's really unlikable but that is kinda the point of a villain right?

If you hated him in the trailers, you'll absolutely hate him in the movie.

Whether that was intentional or not is up for debate

I'll admit I'm a Marveldrone, and at first I wanted the DCEU to fail solely because of the fucktillion "MOS WAS GREAT, YOU FAGGOTS! QUIP QUIP QUIP" threads on Sup Forums.

But after BvS flopped, I kinda snapped and realized, these people just want to see their favorite characters done justice on the big screen just like I do, what kind of cunt am I to shit on that?

I really, REALLY want the DCEU to work, even just to serve as a darker alternative to counter balance the lighthearted MCU movies, but truth be told, it ain't looking too great.

Yep.

I honestly have no clue how the fuck they'll pull off Letojoker when he looks like that and thinks that getting into character means sexually harassing everyone.

This is me tbqh. I want DC to start making good movies and I'm a Marvel fag

I swear I saw this exact post months ago word by word.

I... Fuck, I don't think I've posted that before if that's what you're implying...

Then again, you spend enough time here and everything starts blending together.

>SS is good
>"FUCKING MCUFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH, THIS IS THE ERA OF DC"
>SS is bad
"Marvel paying off the reviewers once again!! fucking mousketeers!!"
I dont look forward to this

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There's more of a chance of Suicide Squad being good than of Justice League being good.

His arse no studio is ever going to hire somebody who insists on terms as retarded as that.

You would be laughed out of the industry

I'm looking forward to SS and in no way do I expect critics to give it good reviews.

Remember, Two Face started out as the main villain of TDK, he's got all the backstory and interaction with the main character, hell he's the finale that changes Batman's course of life.

But Heat Legend swallowed up that entire film, eclipsing the director's interest in even the title character.

I expect the same here.

>their coinface when all the reshooting was extra Leto scenes.

I want dc movies to be successful just so that each company has to change things up in order to get ahead of the game, fuck I mean it's already happened, Marvel already had to change its formula when it heard of BvS

>No way will the Joker be even a secondary character here.
People really believe this?

Considering 90% of threads and 100% of insults on this sites are the same goddamn thing repeated over and over and over again it would not shock me.

>Won't take itself too seriously, so it's already miles ahead of BvS or MoS,
Except that's a phenomenal aspect of those films. Burn in the depths of hell campfag piece of human trash.

Google "Suicide Squad Merchandise"
>Every image is either Leto center or exclusively him.

I saw the newest (third? fourth?) trailer at the theater today when I went to see Warcraft and I gotta say I can't get a bead on what they want Suicide Squad to be. It starts out serious then it looks like it's going to be an action comedy, then just straight action, then kinda dark, then back to action comedy.

But they sure as fuck didn't shy away from the Batman footage, which kind of bugs me.

You'll get used to it.

>these people just want to see their favorite characters done justice
OR we are defending them because they actually are doing justice to these characters.
Mos was fucking incredible and Bvs for all its other issues was a 95% perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne.

>Mos was fucking incredible and Bvs for all its other issues was a 95% perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Batman is like cats and bacon now; something I enjoy but I'm also kind of sick of hearing about.

He's not a perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne until he's in a story where he's not forced to act like an idiot in order to retain myopia.

This

Laugh all you want.
I'm the one enjoying the fucking awesomeness they are putting out and your sitting around probably being a depressed retarded campfag.
Enjoy your lonely laugh bitch.

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Their is nothing idiotic about preparing against potential alien tyrants.
How is this different then Tower of Babel?

Like I said. I'm enjoying life while your not to the point that your a sadist that bullies people that likes different things in film then your barney teir dreck so... I win.
Have fun sucking the Devils dick in hell shit stain.

OP here. Didn't say I DIDN'T want it to be good. I just said, deep down you guys all know, underneath that hype, it very likely won't be.

Press S to pay hopes

Batman did his own research in Tower of Babel.
BvS hinges on Batman not knowing Clark's got a human mom or a secret identity or loved ones. That's the myopia I'm talking about. People defend it by saying he's blinded by rage and paranoia, and that's fine. But that's for that story. And it means that he's a detective that's handed all his information via second hand sources (Luthor, who is pretty obviously unhinged) and doesn't verify them himself.

He's not the perfect Batman/Bruce Wayne until we get a rendition or story in which he's deserving of the title of World's Greatest Detective; an aspect that the movies LOVE downplaying whenever possible.

Still not really sure what the point is, why do they simply want psychos rather than just top tier mercs or something. Bats is already a mass murderer, they don't really need to look too far for anyone else that they could actually use that wouldn't immediately shoot them in the feet somehow.

>why do they simply want psychos rather than just top tier mercs or something
Because one his liability and the other doesn't idiot.

If BvS wanted to take itself seriously, than it needed to have Superman and Lex exhange more than two lines of dialogue.

It's frankly embarrassing that a movie featuring Lex Luthor completely failed to use Lex as a philosophical foil for Superman.

So can someone tell me why you people are so certain Suicide Squad will be bad?

Jared Leto and feminism

but they are making good movies, great movies infact

>OH SHIT BRUH, MY FAULT, MY BAD BRUH. I THOUGHT DIS WAS CHEERLEADIN TRYOUTS

>SO YOU SAYIN WE SOME KINDA "SUICIDE SQUAD"

As a lifelong marvel fan I can't wait for this movie. I fucking Loved the suicide squad. Ostranders run and yes even the first arcs in the nu52 (fuck you if you didn't at least love king shark).
But I think this looks gnarly.
I dig will Smith as deadshot and feel he's gonna add some of his own charm to the fatalistic butter nature of the character
Harley looks cool. Great fucking casting and I don't care if she's the popular one at the forefront.
Crocs makeup is fucking great and they got adewale who would probably be scarier out of costume.
And I wait with bated breath for boomer.

The tone looks good. Nice mix of grim and funny. With a director behind it I think makes sense.

Also aside from the forehead tatt I adore this fucking joker. I dig them updatin him to a modern gangster in purple gator skin rather than an old timely gangster suit. He just looks like he's ready to knock it out of the park.

So fuck the worries I can't wait for this to drop. Only dc flick I'd rather see is the far off shazam picture.

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>Where the sniper rifles at?

It's lonely at the top TBh my familia

Breh, I'm a DC fan hardcore and think Marvels a bunch of shit in the comics for its agenda pushing, but are you hording chromosomes in your brain?

Wait shit there's 3 trailers already I dident even notice the first one.

Characters aren't quite as I expected them but it's still looking pretty good

Same.

>MoS
>bad

nice shitty taste you massive faggot

It's not being directed by Zack "The Hack Attack" Snyder so I've got higher hopes for it than BvS

>marvel fans get great movies
>end up with shitty comics

It's almost like the only people who are okay with this are those that don't read comics...

>Vision
>ultimates
>silver surfer
>ms. Marvel
>moon knight
>Dr. Strange
>daredevil
>deadpool and Spiderman
>Karnak
>black panther
>shitty comics

I swear people think all marvel does now is whor, captain marvel, and Nick Spencer captain America.
There are plenty of good titles marvels putting out today. Same with dc really. People just can't get over their bullshit to see them.

I really want Suicide Squad to be good and Snyder finally GTFO

It's gonna be great

All cokes down to subjective opinions

It's going to be a mediocre attempt at being wacky and funny.
Who cares.

I do, alot of people do actually. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it will be trash.

He said he wants them to make movies, not to lower his standards to depressing degrees like yours and delude himself.

I dunno man, there's like a... 5% chance it'll be good.

A movie needs to be GOOD in order to take itself seriously and not be cringeworthy, pretentious trash like Snyder DC movies. That's what you, the very strange breed of Sup Forums shitposter that didn't know they were kidding when they called Snyder movies "kino", don't seem to realize. MoS and BvS would be better written, directed and edited by toddlers, and the fact that some people see their pretention as warranted deeply saddens me, specially because these same retards are the hypocrites who go around calling others "plebs" for not liking their worthless hack of a filmmaker.

You've already seen the best part of the film

Because Batman's scenes are the only good parts of the movie.
Go watch some clips of the Batman scenes and you are done.

I laugh to keep from weeping.

You can't say enough bad things about him. Every minute of screentime with Jesse Luthor made me cringe. It cannot be stressed enough: that was the single worst casting decision in all of moviemaking history. He was the opposite of everything Lex Luthor should be, they replaced that with a ridiculously annoying edgy-teenager-who-wants-to-act-like-the-Joker that talks just like a caricaturesque YouTube fedoralord, for no reason. Nobody asked for it, but that's what we got. Before you watch the movie, watch this video: youtube.com/watch?v=9ViOAUNuq58 If you can't make it to the end, or the experience is too painful, in a cringey sense, for you, then you should avoid Batman v. Superman. At least wait until someone releases a version where all of Eisenberg's appearances have been cut out.
I don't know how much of it is his fault, and how much of it is the writer's, but I've never liked him before. He has that uptight, punchable face look. Whoever thought it was a good idea to cast him as Luthor should be permanently blacklisted from Hollywood and never allowed to work in anything, ever.

Two-Face still got the proper focus.

It was Batman himself who became a secondary character in his own movie.

>It's almost like the only people who are okay with this are those that don't read comics...

yes, Sup Forums is just fine with it.

I'm glad someone else said it, I got tired of always being the only one pointing out good Marvel titles. I swear Sup Forums keeps becoming more and more like Sup Forums every day, which is insane because if you like comics there's literally nothing stopping you from buying the good Marvel and DC titles. You aren't "locked in" to one company, so brand loyalty is pointless.

This actually spooked me.

Did you freak?

Mom?

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My expectations are so low that the actual thing can only be better then them

Is the current Dr. Strange run actually good? I've had my heart broken too many times as of late

Muh-muh kino!
T-they totally di-didn't reshoot to m-make it more like Marvel!