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This movie could have been really good. They nailed alot of stuff, from the concepts to the characters and the horror like feeling.
The first two thirds of the movie were excellent too, everything was in the right place. Too bad the last third of the film was too short, and the obvious missing scenes.
I'm hoping the sequel fixes alot of the problems. Maybe we'll see some x-me cameos
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>How about no.
>This movie could have been really good.
But isn't. Such is life.
Didn't Mickael B. Jordon walk out to star in the Black Panther movie?
>We're doing our own thing separate from the comics
>Plainly copy and pasting huge chunks of Ultimate Fantastic Four with Doom in place of Annihilus
Get fucked Trank.
>YFW H.E.R.B.I.E. replaces him.
>YFW Jim Parsons voices H.E.R.B.I.E.
Probably less star and more cameo. Pretty much every notable black actor is in Black Panther. Most are probably just supporting characters.
Remember what happened to the last Human Torch?
>II-I-ITS ALIVE WE SWEAR
Fox also pretended Fantastic 4 part 3 was still alive to 2010
they are just saving face
after the shit he pulled, captain coke has NO CHANCE of this happening
This isn't actually happening
There is no way in hell this sequel is still going to happen. I don't believe them.
And how is that going to work with Michael B. Jordan being in Black Panther and being set to star in the upcoming spy movie, The Thomas Crown Affair? Never mind Jamie Bell who seems to be more than happy to stick to his tv show TURN or Kate Mara and House of Cards. They could probably get Toby Kebell back though.
Hello Trank, you creepy fuck! How do you do!?
They can't say it's off the table. That's admitting the rights are worthless. It's just good PR. They won't make a sequel. They will either sell the rights for a high price, threatening Marvel with another reboot to withhold them, and either Marvel pays, or we'll have yet another shitty rushed movie.
They also can't have cameos from the X-universe without permission from Marvel. They are two separate rights packages and count as independent. They can't cross them just as they can't cross the X-men with Assassins without consent from both Marvel and Ubisoft.
>Pretty much every notable black actor is in Black Panther
Chadwick Boseman
Lupita Nyong'o (just rumoured)
Michael B. Jordan
That one Dora Milaje (probably)
That's just four so far. Don't expect a main cast beyond 6 or 7 characters.
>Kate Mara and House of Cards
I take it you haven't seen the show.
>mfw they made Ben, the heart of the group, a heartless killer doing whatever the shadowy government organisation wanted him to, seemingly without even caring
>mfw they didn't even focus on how fucked up it was
Not even Doom would stoop to that for god's sake.
No, I just started House of Cards, why?
you've got more chance of Sup Forums making a emmy and golden globe winning 10 season and a movie cartoon that tranktastic 2
Well, I just fucked up then, but as of now she's not on the show anymore. I won't tell you when she leaves, but it's not a problem anymore. Keep watching, it's a neat show.
She wouldn't go back to F4 though. Neither would any of the other guys. It's dead.
>They nailed alot of stuff,
For example?
>from the concepts
they just failed to copy/paste Ultimate FF
>the characters
When? They were dull and have few in common with the Fantastic Four we know. Ben Grimm and Sue Storm just happen to exist without doing anything remotely interesting. Black Human Torch was the only one I "liked" the most out of the four.
>the horror like feeling
The what?
>The first two thirds of the movie were excellent too
Do you mean the part were the protagonists got drunk and decided to go in another dimension? Or were they waited like 40 mins for a childood friend of one of them to come at the super secret laboratory for no reason, meanwhile keeping the girl at home?
Are you on drug moviefag?
>The first two thirds of the movie were excellent
Is it the same three or four spergs that keep saying this or are you faggots really that easy to please?
He's actually slated to play the main villain.
Since he has officially signed on to the MCU he isn't allowed to reprise his role as Johnny Storm, so he's 100% out. Not that he wanted to come back anyhow.
No way
4-5 years later we'll get another reboot
>Fantastic Four 2
Who asked for this?
Jesus Christ, stop raping this franchise. At this point I'm convinced not even Marvel wants them back, the brand is beyond fucked in the eyes of the public.
Why would you want a horror feeling in a Fantastic Four movie
So, what did you guys like about the movie, if you saw it?
He was trying to make Chronicle again.
MBJ was a pretty good Johnny Storm, funnily enough. Sup Forums couldn't stop bitching about him and he turned out to be the least of the movie's problems.
Teller was also ok.
>The first two thirds of the movie were excellent too
No they were also terrible. Nice job having awful taste
I liked all the actors, pretty much. They were all pretty good even with the shit they had to work with.
I liked some of the set design.
That's really all I've got.
Do they really expect us to believe they are making a sequel to this? Why not just say you're rebooting the movie instead? I feel like most people would prefer a FF movie that isn't in the Trankverse.
It's just PR.
They'll reboot it again.
>Kate Mara publically denounced the movie.
>Miles Teller is kinda' burned-out after that interview and was reportedly the one that almost came to blows with Josh Trank.
>Michael B. Jordan with Marvel Studios now.
>Jamie Bell in talks for Bond.
>Toby Kebbel went full Serkis and is probably tied up with the Kaijuverse.
>Trank is on the blacklist.
It'll never happen.
>Maybe we'll see some x-me cameos
they need approval from marvel to do that.
do they want to loose money?
No way in hell is a sequel getting made.
>Actors abandoning ship
>No one wants the pressure of dealing with this mess
>Public opinion is low
At best they'll sit on the rights, but they need something in production or else they automatically revert. So they may cut a deal and just focus on the X Men/Deadpool. At least that way they can turn a profit
They already lost money with the first one.
A reboot will make more money than a sequel to this turd.
I doubt it'd make profit still, because the F4 need an MCU-esque universe and tone, unless they went full gritty, but they already blew that with this one.
Too bad, I really like the F4 concept, but they seem to be doomed to shitty adaptations and even stories.
What I love is that Trank was going to direct a Star Wars movie but after discovering his behaviour during the movie's making Disney wisely decided to ditch him.
>cinemablend.com
YES!YES!YES!
Steps to fix the franchise.
1. Director cut. Freely available on internet.
2. Now that the black Torch is in the MCU, replace him with a blonde one. Dont even address the change in the movies. If some journalist asks just answer "I dont see skin color, I just see people" so they get really mad
3. Trank is back for the Kang trilogy he promised
4. NEVER EVER
>Jamie Bell in talks for Bond
>in talks
Aidan Turner's gonna get the role of Bond, screencap this. At this point, he's standing where Craig did before Casino Royale.
How much of a shill do you have to be to be excited for another Fox F4 movie? How much of a shill do you have to be to want Trank back?
Wait...Trank, is that you?
At some point Peyton Reed was attached/had a script for a F4 movie.
Given how the family/relationship dynamics were one of my favorite parts of Ant-Man, as well as not being afraid to go full microverse, I really think we missed on something very special.
I really want to see the original cut.
Frankly the only parts I liked about the movie was the first arc. The second was completely removed and the third one was filmed, written and directed by someone else. And it was shit. Its fair to say that what we watched from Trank was actually interesting.
The music by Phillip Glass was glorious. I dont expect for you to know who he is but trust me, he is great.
Finally, he made them fucking scientists/explorers, instead of shitty superheroes. Im pretty sure the next movies would have been about the FF exploring the universe instead of dealing with Earth based shit.
Go to bed Trank.
There is no original cut because Tranks material didnt have an ending originally. The studio had to step in, film it, and salvage what was left
>Its fair to say that what we watched from Trank was actually interesting.
It really isn't.
And we know what the third act entailed. It was the same shit.
>They find Reed and bring him back to the base.
>They open the portal again.
>Doom shows up.
>Doom goes crazy and decides to destroy Earth.
>The FF have to go to the N-Zone to stop him.
>that time Josh Trank appeared on this episode of Arrested Development to tell Tobias he was ruining the Fantastic Four brand.
You can't make this shit up.
But Doomashev said last week Trank had a great cut, that means it was filmed at some point.
>Salvage
Might as well have used the original cut considered the salvaged one was shit. Sure, the original one would have been a shitty ff movie, but a decent and cohesive sci fi story.
Hard to say without knowing anything about the second act. There is over 1 hour of movie removed. In the middle. You cant remove one hour of movie without consequences.
Is that Trank? Really?
There are often movie cuts long before completion, Josh.
You're a director, you should know that.
Pottery.
Sure, there are. But you cant remove a whole second act and then pretend it wont be shit.
They should have reshot a second act too.
Yup. He's playing a FOX attorney, a bunch of which have been giving Tobias strikes for impersonating the Thing and Invisible woman (under different names even) without paying the license, which is diluting their brand.
Season 4 has a bunch of fantastic four jokes, 2 or 3 years before the movie.
I had heard that Trank initially started this project as a sequel to Chronicle, and only later included the Fant4stic stuff when the studio told him to. So to that extent, the similarities to Ultimate FF may actually be a coincidence.
I hope they have Elsa as an exec, so she can LET IT GO!
Ugh. Fox, you're killin' me, bro.
Why do they look like teenager?
Why is her brother black?
>change is coming
Oh never mind. Fuck this industry.
They're rebooting Thomas Crown Affair? Seriously? ugh.
>Teenagers
They are all 25-30 bro
If i could reboot FF i would just make the whole movie a propaganda film by the Latverian government, extolling our glorious leader DOOM, and showing the wonders of Latverian civilization and the evils of the West's/Richards' decadence, and then District 9 it by eventually abandoing the "movie within a movie" narrative and properly following the FF half way through.
So Fantastic Four in the MCU never? Fuck.
>They could probably get Toby Kebell back though.
I don't think he wants to come back
Free m everything I have read and heard the FF movie that Trank made was the first 2/3rds that worked on the horror/SciFi themes that were awesome, the parts that ask the movie were parts that were retooled due to studio and Kindberg involvement. Makes sense seeing as how shit Xmen Apocalypse was.
It's just a damage control thing. They don't want to get lowballed.
>Free m everything I have read and heard the FF movie that Trank made was the first 2/3rds that worked on the horror/SciFi themes that were awesome,
It was better than the rest of the film by far but it wasn't exactly all that good either.
>They are all 25-30 bro
And yet they looked like teens
>I really want to see the original cut.
Honestly I actually want to, too. If only to see who was right about it, Trank or Fox.
> And it was shit. Its fair to say that what we watched from Trank was actually interesting.
It has its moments but is kinda marred by Teacher Homer Simpson and the fact that Reed, Johnny, and Doom get drunk (and get Ben) to go exploring the N-Zone or whatever it was called.
I saw AD season 4, but I've never knew that he was Josh...That's too good.
The only scenes i liked where the body horror stuff.
Reed tried to unstretch himself looke so gross and uncomfortable, i loved it.
the rest of the movie was shit and the pacing was fucking flabbergasting, but that scene was cool.
how blind are you?
or maybe youre just so used to seeing people in their mid and late 20s playing teens, that you think people in their 20s all look like teens?
>how blind are you?
Not as much as you clearly
They look exactly like they're supposed to: young super-geniuses.
Just be glad they didn't go full-out when embracing the Ultimate universe angle of making them highschool-kids.
>I'm hoping the sequel fixes alot of the problems.
By not existing so we can forget this ever happened? That would be great OP!
>youngest two actors are 29, prob 28 or 27 at the time of filming
>they look like teenagers
>im not blind i swear
Just wait for Deadpool Vs The Fantastic Four in 2021
>That's just four
Barring black actors that have already appeared in the MCU, that leaves, like, 3 people.
Chronicle 2 with the Fox brand logo would've been mediocre at best.
I am not American btw, and it bothers me that they make characters black to sell more, as if being black were cool and white lame, race shouldnt be a selling point.
That's not why they made him black. They made him black because MBJ was friends with Frank so Frank wanted him to have a starring role in the movie.
This isn't a marketing move, it's just regular ol' nepotism.
Trank*, damn autocorrect.
Don't worry, Trank used "Frank" as his tripname on Sup Forums
It's completely dead. They'll never get funding even to the level the first one had, because it lost money. It cost $120m + marketing (something between 50 and 70 million), and it only made $167m back worldwide (of which the studio would only have seen about $83m) with another $13m in home video sales in the domestic market. So all-in, even with the home video of which the studio sees a much bigger chunk than the theatrical, it lost probably $80m. Just making that up through other revenue streams, let alone getting into clear profit, would take a very long time with such a tedious, terrible movie. Getting to where they would originally have projected themselves to be, with the same amount of work? Never going to happen.
$80m is $20m more than it cost the same studio to make an entire Deadpool movie, with which they are very pleased indeed. Add to that the fact that FOX has almost certainly released these actors from their contracts (because it performed so poorly, that was likely automatic) and we know at least one of them has got a better gig already.
The reason Simon Kinberg is saying he'd work on a sequel and try to drag everybody else down with him is because he's balls deep in this project. He probably owes a lot of money to a lot of people, and he's not going to see it back without another movie. His choices here are limited, but that's exactly why movies are made in partnership with other production companies - so that when a whole load of them go under together, it doesn't sink the studio.
Realistically, he has no chance of securing funding for a sequel and is just venting.
The rights are worthless, but they're FOX's for the next 9 years. By then they might be worth something, and they're not costing anything - other than the losses they already made - until then.
>The rights are worthless,
On their own, yes. But they are worth more money to Marvel than everyone else, because it's a piece of their puzzle. I do think they have priority in case FOX decides to sell it, so FOX is stuck with it not making money, whilst being worth money. Marvel won't pay much for it, and FOX won't sell it for little.
I figure they might agree a value sometime in the next 3 or 4 years or something. Worst case, 7 years until they rush their movie/fail to meet the deadline.
I wonder where Trank is now.
If they even try to make another film (and chances are unlikely that's gonna happen), it's most likely gonna be another reboot. But it would end up having a lower budget than the last one like said so it probably won't be worth it.
>The reason Simon Kinberg is saying he'd work on a sequel and try to drag everybody else down with him is because he's balls deep in this project. He probably owes a lot of money to a lot of people, and he's not going to see it back without another movie.
I think it also didn't help that X-Men Apocalypse probably underperformed based on expectations.
If you believe this movie is actually coming out you haven't been paying attention to cape movies for very long.
If Fox ever makes another F4 movie it will be another reboot, but at this point even that seems unlikely.
>Kate Mara and House of Cards
...you don't actually watch this show, do you?
I liked the Akira scene where Doom walked down the hallway exploding people's heads.
It had no place in a F4 movie, but it was cool.
It was basically 100% shit besides that.
>Kate Mara
>House of Cards
Yeaaaah 'bout that, user...
None of the actors will want to come back. Especially Kate Mara.
>Especially Kate Mara
Especially Michael B. Jordan. Their sequel contract was probably void if the tension on set was as bad as reported, and the box office performance probably voided the contract all together (some sequel hooks depend on the movie breaking certain threshold).
Then, Kinberg's "announcement" happened in the morning of the same day whose afternoon was the one where MBJ was announced to be cast in Black Panther. His contract certainly has an exclusivity clause, like most do post-Avengers.
What are the chances of getting a Director's Cut like with Daredevil?
0. They simply didn't shoot them, and the ones that they shot they didn't post-produce. They built a practical fantasticar and had a couple of shots of it in one of the ads, but they used the CGI/3d budget on the reshoots.
>that rumour about Mara shitting her pants in front of Trank
There's going to be a fifth one?