What went wrong?

What went wrong?

the source material is mediocre at best

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It's based on one of the dullest franchise in the history of book franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

I would not say at best, but consistently, its starts as a kids books and kind of grows a bit more serious with its initial fanbase, but it never becomes anything more than a book for kids.

Nice pasta

Also you're wrong

Nothing? It was a very successful and popular series of movies that made an obscene amount of money and still fondly remembered by fans and got basically a free pass by critics due to their sheer popularity.

In fact it's extremely hard to find a series that is more successful than Harry Potter no matter what metric you use to measure success.

Harry threw away the wand and didn't fuck CreepyFu in the ass instead of that boring, fat-chested ginger.

You just know Luna puts out for anyone she considers a friend.

"No!"

This

nothing went wrong, just because some autistic people on Sup Forums didnt like it.

Target audience grew up so the tone of the movies changed to keep up with the changing demographic

too dull

inherently the worst medium to properly translate the books

an animated TV show would do much better

also:

>directors being allowed to change shit each movie making the costuming, look of the castle, look of magic/spells, etc all over the place
>movies left out too much from the books to the point where some of them really suffer
>sometimes they left stuff out but left in the conclusion that would have benefited greatly from the stuff in the books
>Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, and Half-Blood Prince all should've been two movies

They stopped giving a shit about books. The first three movies were great. Then they tried to do their own thing and shit became absolutely retarded.

A movie fits the closed format of HP pretty well actually. For a series you'd need many more characters, and it wouldn't work budget-wise due all the magical crap.

>Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, and Half-Blood Prince all should've been two movies
Pretty much.

>A movie fits the closed format of HP pretty well actually. For a series you'd need many more characters,
Luckily, the books have many more characters

>and it wouldn't work budget-wise due all the magical crap.
would've be too difficult in animation

>Luckily, the books have many more characters
Not really, the relevant ones are pretty limited. Nobody gives a shit about Lee Jordan or some Weasley cousin or Dracos gf.

>would've be too difficult in animation
Unless it'd be really high budget, it'd be shit. Besides, live action just gives it the touch of realism it needs. Animation would be "too magical".

1-4 are objectively good but 5-7 part 2 are mediocre

>Not really, the relevant ones are pretty limited. Nobody gives a shit about Lee Jordan or some Weasley cousin or Dracos gf.
only because they were excluded from the films

>Unless it'd be really high budget, it'd be shit.
a ATLA/TLOK level budget would work just fine

>Besides, live action just gives it the touch of realism it needs.
it doesn't necessarily need that though

>Animation would be "too magical".
that doesn't even make sense

>only because they were excluded from the films
Most casual book-readers wouldn't recall them either. Character-wise they didn't do much wrong in the movies. Would adding Winky improve anything?

>a ATLA/TLOK level budget would work just fine
If you want to make a HP animation series for the sake of it. Obviously it'd be still popular due the books but there is no way it'd make billions like the crappy movies. It's a shitty idea from start to finish.

>it doesn't necessarily need that though
Isn't a big part of it, how all this magical shit is under muggle noses. Grounding it in live action would further help with that. Turning it into animation would take away all the realism and cut down the market to children and hardcore fans.

>Most casual book-readers wouldn't recall them either. Character-wise they didn't do much wrong in the movies.
They left out a lot

>Would adding Winky improve anything?
adding the whole SPEW thing would have been great in general

>If you want to make a HP animation series for the sake of it.
or just make one in general that's more faithful than the movies

> Obviously it'd be still popular due the books but there is no way it'd make billions like the crappy movies.
It doesn't need to make billions

> It's a shitty idea from start to finish.
Not really

>Isn't a big part of it, how all this magical shit is under muggle noses. Grounding it in live action would further help with that.
But putting it in animation does the same shit

>Turning it into animation would take away all the realism
no it wouldn't

animation =/= cartoony wackyness
>and cut down the market to children and hardcore fans.
adults are watching animation more and more

>They left out a lot
And a lot of it wasn't necessary. Visual media works differently. All the world building that can take dozens of pages happens in few seconds in the background on the screen for example.

>adding the whole SPEW thing would have been great in general
Some bits of it yeah although given the anticlimactic end it'd probably bore most.

>or just make one in general that's more faithful than the movies
Why should faithful be the goal, instead of making an optimal visual experience? Each medium has different strengths.

>It doesn't need to make billions
Doubt Rowling agrees with that.

>But putting it in animation does the same shit
>animation =/= cartoony wackyness
It doesn't. Animation is automatically less grounded by the nature of it. Just because it's not pure cartoon wackyness doesn't mean it's anywhere close to something like live action when it comes to realism. Most live action adaptions of animated stuff is crap for reasons beyond the low budget. Things just don't mix well.

>adults are watching animation more and more
Sure but still no way near to the level comparable to live action.

>Atlas Shrugged
You ain't baiting me

Ron was an insufferable git too many times and didn't help much. I wish rowling could've made him a better, more useful friend and less of comic relief/drama maker. Him and harry seemed close but still.

Nothing? The 7th movie was the best in the franchise and they grew more popular and critically succesful

Only thing I didn't like about the movie was Ginnie or whatever

Source material is decent up to vol 4 but after that it's just not good anymore, too many plot holes ie truth serum and Rowling couldn't fix them
Pairing Ron with Hermione pretty much turns casuals off
Many scenes got cut down, for example the quidditch match at the start of vol 4

Malfoy wasn't a cute grill.
Also, they stopped caring about robes and hats

It started taking itself too seriously.

the source material isn't that good
but that said
1&2 are comfy schlock
3rd is probably the best one, the vidya for PS2 was better though
4 was easily the worst one
5 had some cool action
6 was completely meh, but so was the book
7 and 8 were very mediocre, the book was much better, and it wasn't even that good