I'm not too familiar with the character, but how horrible of a person is Lex Luthor when NOT scheming against Superman...

I'm not too familiar with the character, but how horrible of a person is Lex Luthor when NOT scheming against Superman? He's got businesses and a life to manage doesn't he?

He indiscriminately ruins people's lives, sometimes to benefit himself, other times for his own amusement. He also kills however gets in his way, he strangled to death his own martial arts instructor once because she beat him in his training (and also because Superman was dead at the time and he wanted to make a point)

He's an absolute bastard out only for himself

>he strangled to death his own martial arts instructor once because she beat him in his training
Of course it was a woman. He wouldn't have been able to pull that shit if his martial arts instructor was a man. Dude would have just slapped the shit out of his mouth.

Lex always harps on about how much he could achieve if Superman wasn't around but we have seen what he's like without Superman. He's an evil psychopath ho ruins peoples lives and it's rarely just for business purposes.

It's an irony that for all Lex says about Superman holding humanity back that Lex has pushed himself to greater and greater heights that he never would have attempted without Superman around

>Implying Lex isn't strong and deadly as fuck

So is Luthor as bad as the Joker?

I dunno, you tell me.

The only thing he'd be strangling is his dick when a man of equal size kicks his ass.

Heartless bitch

Even in life he seems to have a number of undesirable personality traits. I think for awhile now writers have been modeling him after or with the thought in mind that people in his position are sometimes psychopaths.

He's a completely egotistical asshole with an obvious superiority complex he's says he'd do great things if it wasn't for superman but that's complete bullshit he just hates him for being better than him just by existing

Luthor has always been a psychopath. Did it not hit when he was at the head table of THE LEGION OF DOOM

Meanwhile at the Legion of Doom!

> how horrible of a person is Lex Luthor when NOT scheming against Superman?
user, that would imply that there's a single waking moment when he's not scheming against Superman

That point aside, Luthor is a narcissistic cunt; he literally only cares for and loves himself.
In Red Son for example, he was always doing his own shit and completely neglected Lois Lane, his wife

This is why i loved All Star Superman. In fact, I wish it was less Superman doing random feats and more him and Lex and him calling Lex out on his bullshit

And if Luthor really wanted to he could do everything Superman can't. Fix all the economic, medical and social problems we have and he would be loved by the entire world.

But he could never fly.

>Is such an egomaniac he changes his motherbox to sound "Lex" instead of "Ping."
How can anyone hate this glorious motherfucker?

Easy you just have to be in the receiving end of his shit

>mfw during the Action Comics story time people were saying "Lex is a good boy, he din do nuffin"

Superman has no proof this Lex did anything wrong, he is totally acting on prejudice based on the one he knew

when no one was looking, he took 40 cakes.

This Lex has been to superjail already.

He's lex fucking luthor

That fuck this where my cakes

and he is now in the Justice League and has saved the world multiple times

I guess Superman doesn't believe in redemption

Did Morrison's Action Comics get jettisoned or something?

Apparently. Lex forcing his way into the Justice League is somehow proof he's a good guy. He helped save the world in Final Crisis but he was still a fucking asshole there and he's still one now

He didn't steal those 40 cakes from Superman.

Do you think Lex works better as a villain with a personal vendetta against Superman (the protoplasm making him go bald) or just as someone who is the mora opposite of Superman?

Well aside from the 'ALIENS GO' thing, Lex can be a dick.

I think he works best as both. He is everything Superman is not, he sees everything wrong with society in Superman. While Superman is righteous, Lex is petty because he is petty he has a vendetta again Superman for merely existing.

Literally every adventure so far he's been either a source of the crisis or a rogue element.

Kingpin would beat his ass hand to hand

This is pretty great.
What issue was this from?

Lex is usually god-tier at making himself NOT look evil in the public's eyes though.

Pretty much the entirety of the 90's through the early 00's had him manipulating things behind the scenes, giving himself good publicity so Superman could never take him down. Good times.

And he's back to doing that kind of thing post-Flashpoint and Rebirth as well.

>forty cakes

Luthor IS the Joker. did you not watch BvS?

fucking kek

Lex Luthor will never change. Lex, you fucking cunt. Stop posting on Sup Forums and free Apokolips already, you bastard!

And this is why I'll never be as awesome an asshole as Luthor if I ever get rich. The only rich asshole thing my brain can come up with is eating here and just not tipping.

Remember when Lex was President or America? And got re-elected? And then he started shooting up Kryptonite Steroids and he got all High Test and wanted to fuck Amanda Waller?

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When you really think about it, that was so fucking stupid and a waste of a potentially interesting arc. Fucking Loeb.

I hope Lex Luthor becomes President again and they actually do something interesting with that.

See: 52

To remind you he was a horrible person before Clark even met him and like when he became superman most of lex's criminal activities and overall dickish nature just couldnt be proven. Even in a universe where Kal never came to earth Lex Luther would be a grade A douche.

He is freeing them of stupid concepts like "freedom"

Kingpin can and has kicked Captain America's ass. He's basically superhuman.

Has lex ever reached griffith tier terrible?

He's been President for a while by then but it was a really stupid way to end the story.

Speaking of Rogue element, Lex is fun to watch during Red Son.

This. If it wasn't Superman he'd be ragging on Captain Marvel or Wonder Woman, until he's finally plotting to murder Iron Munro for telling people to lift more.

It could work both ways, I think.
>give Lex some excuse to hold Superman personally accountable for some slight against him (like losing his hair in a lab accident, if you want to go for a dumb Silver Age homage) even though Superman's actual involvement and intentions in those circumstances were always ambiguous, even from Lex's extremely biased POV
>regardless, he grows up centering himself around hating the shit out of Superman anyways, the ONE guy people were always impressed by more than him, up until a point where he subconsciously articulates the entire drive behind his ambitions and his personal philosophy around contradicting Superman's on a fundamental level, where he can still pretend he's "in the right" by compromising basic morality through his outrageously dickish mental gymnastics

The line "If you really cared about saving the world Lex, you would have done it by now" sums it up

Holy shit. You forget to leave a tip?

That's playing the long game to an epic level.

Luthor best president

Holy shit.

That's as many as 4 tens.

I would vote for Lex. He's honestly better than the Venezuelan-supporting Socialist, the Anti-Muslim Wall and Shillary.

Isn't Lex basically just Trump with better hair and actual charisma?

But Griffith is the hero. He even has his own fictional city to protect humanity from all the world's horrors.

wasn't that lex's son?

holy shit.. how much time did it go by between those issues?

>and actual charisma?
Yeah seriously. I have no idea how Trump is as popular as he is, when he literally has no fucking charisma whatsoever.

It was Lex posing as his own son in a cloned body with his original brain.

People are always like "WHAT IF BATMAN WAS THE JOKER/JOKER WAS THE BATMAN?"

Well

Lex

I really like it when luthor fights other villains

They're not separate with Lex. His entire war against Superman is because he is petty and jealous, which is morally the opposite of Superman. Supes does things because it helps someone else, Lex does things for his own purposes.

No he doesn't believe in Lex Luthor not being a self serving ass.

>when NOT scheming against Superman
There is no such scenario.

Christ.. comics are fucking stupid

And i love it

...I see.

He was one sexy beast.

He was an Aussie, though.

or rather, he was pretending to be an Aussie.

He was beating the shit out of the joker in salvation run. The only reason why he lost was the joker's immunity to pain. I'd say he's qualified to beat a trained man in hand to hand.

they should've had him institute capital punishment for supervillains and then the heroes struggle with turning over villains to the proper authorities.

Luthor's bodycount is higher than the Joker's by a few zeroes. He destroyed a planet, for starters...

Not really he is as strong as a manlet that goes to the gym.

Lex is in not a manlet. He's at the very least 6 feet, probably higher in some incarnations.

This. Both are evil but Lex Luthor is badder on a much bigger scale. The schemes he's up to usually kill people up in the hundreds or thousands. The Joker is much creepier on a lower-level. He's the fucked up serial killer who might break into your home, bash your head in with a blunt object, while cracking jokes and enjoying it all, just for the lulz (or this being the Joker, really it'd be something much more elaborate and fancier than that, but don't put anything past the Joker), but Lex Luthor is like a mad scientist terrorist or a war criminal. Dude has killed hundreds over his lifetime.

Not to mention when he was CEO of LexCorp and he'd screw people over left and right too, probably ruining their lives.

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He did a lot that was interesting. He won a war! With Apokalypse!

The ending was kind of random though it's true

I fucking love Lex Luthor.
Best villain in comics, period.

>Lex is in not a manlet.

He was always a manlet until Johns.
ALWAYS. Even with Loeb Lex was as tall as around 5'9.

It wasnt until Johns started to lose his hair that he developed his "sexu bald guy" fetish and started making every villian a sexy bald guy (Anti-monitor included) that Lex grew up a few inches. He was always several innches shorter than Superman or Bruce Wayne.

Clark is shorter than superman.

This. Lex did nothing wrong and saved the world from a threat that the entire JL couldn't handle. Lex can be a BASTARD but my fuck when he's on your side he is a bastard to your foes.

Literally casual: the question

>He was always a manlet until Johns.

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but he didnt tip

Even in powerarmor he is shorter than Batman on the suit.