What does Sup Forums consider to be a fair tip? I work in the service industry and I think their should be no standard...

What does Sup Forums consider to be a fair tip? I work in the service industry and I think their should be no standard. It should be based on your overall happiness with service. So if you feel a 15% tip is in order sure go for it but if you feel the tip was worst 30% gratuity or more go for it. The worst thing to happen to tips was people setting a standard of 15%.

10%. And only if the service was worth it. Tip is included in restaurant prices here. They don't need it.

Whatever I feel is right, but tipping should definitely not be socially necessary. I should tip if I enjoyed your service, not because you deserve it because you chose to be a waiter.

Tipping is just retarded, I shouldn't have to fucking pay extra for you to do your fucking job.

See that's wrong you are setting a standard worse than the current one. That doesn't change anything.

Let's be fair waiters get paid shit though.

No one gives a fuck what you think non American.

>Let's be fair waiters get paid shit though.
How the fuck is that the costumer's problem.
Somehow when the word obamacare drops, people go all commierage, but paying people who aren't your employees is just fine.

>Let's be fair waiters get paid shit though.
Because employers anticipate they will be tipped to compensate. Chicken and the egg.

$1-2 per person served + $1-2 for the cleaning the mess at the table when finished.

3 people go to a mid tier restaurant? $4-5

6 go to a very nice restaurant? $10-15 maybe

As for other servers such as bartenders, hairdresses/barbers, ect it depends on the service done but not more than 25%.

But thats just my opinion.

*I* get payed shit! Fuck waiters.

Say that to my face and see what happens.

If everyone stopped tipping right now the restaurant would be forced to pay employees minimum wage.

I didn't say it was anyone's fault but it is what it is.

Regardless how it started this is where we are. I don't think asking you to pay a little more will kill you.

Why the fuck do you keep making these threads? Who the hell is paying you to shitpost this garbage for FIVE FUCKING YEARS STRAIGHT?? You have to be the most dedicated shill ever to plague this shill-plagued site. Fuck you and I hope you get ass cancer.

tip?

AHHAHAAHHAH

Not a good opinion, honestly

No I would never visit a savage 3rd world country that doesn't respect it's waiting staff.

No the restaurants would look to automation or other ways to screw us. I worked at Applebee's once 50% of staff were laid off overnight due to the iPads they use now to take orders.

>I didn't say it was anyone's fault but it is what it is.
Costumer is still paying for it.

>0 tip
>People can't survive on this job
>Quit and get different job
>Employer has no personnel because the pay is shit
>Increases pay to attract personnel
Free market fixed the problem.

>No I would never visit a savage 3rd world country that doesn't respect it's waiting staff.
Yea that's cute coming from a country who doesn't even pay their waiting staff

Okay but the employees that have tips as part of their compensation would still make minimum wage. Lay offs are not relevant to this.

Free market is the problem friend not the solution. People should not be treated like robots.

Whatever you are stupid.

It is very relevant drop tips and the managers will drop staff.

Why does tipping even exist? Don't american waiters get paid for working?

Tipping is something generous people do to show staff they appreciate the extra work they did to make their experience pleasant. Many here posting confused are Europeans I am not surprised.

Your mind must be made up already.
>gib me dat


No one tips, mgmt forced to pay minimum wage by law. Employees are paid minimum wage - we done here?

Fuck you, its hardly my problem you dont form a union to secure a decent salary

You are not obliged to work there.
You CHOOSE to work for a loser pay.
You CHOOSE to take a student job and think you can survive on it.
You make the wrong choices of which you knew in advance were wrong and fucking stupid, and now you complain about it.
You don't want people to be treated like robots, you want them to be treated like children.

You don't seem to understand how service industry jobs differ from your normal best buy/taco bell shit.

I round up to the nearest Euro if give them 11€
If 10,87€
>give them 12€

If lousy service or shitskin/feminazi waiter then I pay with card and give the exact amount.

Now if it's not a cheap meal and I'm with other people I'll round up to the nearest 5th Euro if

Tipping is for exceptional service you fucking niggers.

>Whatever you are stupid.
Nigger detected.
This is a typical jewish slide thread/response tactics though.
Saged.

Okay here waiters get paid by their bosses.

If we unionize (and believe me I tried) we would all be fired and new staff hired in a day or two. So no, not an option.

Another person who doesn't understand how service jobs differ. Also this isn't a student job and I have a 4 year degree so I'm not a fucking idiot.

What part of what I said was wrong. Federal law mandates minimum wage.

Some waiter fag who has obviously worked at some shitty restaurant for the past 5 years because he's a low-life with shit for brains.

i usually 20%
unless its a small meal then min $10

Enjoy eating at restaurants, getting spit and other shit in your plates, and having to tip your waiter for that. There is a price with not having the discipline of cooking your own food.

because its kinda the rule of thumb if your dining out in America

but its more for high end restaurants to get tipped not soo much the applebees waiter

I tip when service has been good. It's a bonus for the not lazy waiters that actually have a shred of work ethic. Great way to give feedback without having to directly confront shitty waiters. This suits a introverted me just fine.

No because usually it's some queer arguing that tipping should be destroyed for some reason like some Koch clone has a wild burr up his ass or something.

This is on the low side and doesn't seem very fair. You should think this over again.

Which I give every time but if tipping goes away you won't see it anymore.

You really are stupid and don't get it.

As do we but we also get tips.

Only in America have you got this fucked up system for service

>tipping

You have a 4 year degree and are doing a job for a salary even a Romanian would laugh at. Oh and you're somehow not a fucking idiot.
I get it now.

0%
I pay what is on the receipt.
You want more? Up the price. Lose customers afterwards? too bad.
If people need to survive on the generosity of others you can just transform your nation to socialism, but the muricans think that is a bad thing :^)

>tips
bah!

By the way do waiters need to pay taxes for their tips? That seems like easy way to dodge taxes if they just lie.

>Which I give every time
You fucking nigger, tipping isn't an automatic thing, you tip if you get EXCEPTIONAL service, not because your retarded country doesn't pay waiters and expects customers to pay.

What part of service jobs are not like your average MC Job don't you understand? Being a waiter is more than just handing out fucking change.

I have worked 3 different places in the last 5 years.

This seems pretty reasonable.

I have never ever messed with food ever. Not once. If tipping went away though I can't guarantee the safety of your food.

hey!

for pizza delivery it should be 4 dollars or 15 percent, whichever is higher

>tfw been to america three times
>never tipped once

fuck your "when in rome" shit, i'm not giving them extra money for no reason.

>tipping
Fucking US fags

i plan everytime i go out exactly how much im gonna spend so that it lands between 18.80 and 18.96 so that i dont seem cheap

Same, usually 20%. Can go up to 25-30%, and tipping 50% isn't out of the question (depending on the restaurant price).

I spent a couple of weeks vacationing in the US, never tipped anywhere because I never went to the same place twice. Maybe get a real job instead of relying on other people's handouts, being a waiter has to be one of the more useless jobs there is.

...

Why should I think about how much I should tip, how it will be received, worry if I tipped enough or not, try to calculate it correctly while being drunk, communicate with someone just to buy food?
Either include it in the check if you care about your workers, or leave me an option to order and grab my food myself.

I don't give a fuck what you think honestly.

Reporting tips is not really needed so I don't do it.

>tipping isn't an automatic thing
You are wrong. Utterly 100% wrong.

50 %? I guess its a show off thing... They will laugh at your back you know for beeing a cuckold

>tipping isn't an automatic thing
Do explain. You americans are fucking retarded stone-age niggers with your tipping system.

>I don't give a fuck what you think honestly.
Then why start a thread, stupid nigger.

>50%
See this is all I ask to be open minded. I had an old man spend $15 and tipped $15 which is 100% because I listened to his stories about his dead wife. This is what I mean by extra service. I pretend to care you pay me.

They are required by law, but I wouldn't doubt a good portion of the cash isn't reported.

(that's why if you like the waiter/wait staff, tip in cash)


On an unrelated note:
>went to a cafe in France once
>minimal to no service
>waiter comes out later with the bill
>already comes with a 20% added gratuity on the bill

Was I fucked over because I don't speak frog, or is this a usual thing in France?

>This is on the low side and doesn't seem very fair. You should think this over again.
You idiot. This isn't America. Waiters here get a full time salary, health insurance, paid vacation, etc. Why the fuck should I give them 20% for bringing a damn plate out?

>is this a usual thing in France?
They fuck over people in tourist places. France is notorious for such practices.

/thread

Well for one thing if you come back to my establishment after stiffing me a tip I will remember. Maybe I will now go slower. Maybe o won't check on you or bring you water. Maybe when you say medium I will tell the chef well done. Little things like this.

This thread wasn't just for people from your dumb country.

He'll pay even more for an extra-service under the table

You failed in life and made this thread to justify living on handouts doing a shit tier job m80.

Go fuck yourself :)

Because you were happy with their service?

i always tip 20% because i'm not an autistic faggot.

This is the kinda shit I do sometimes.

If it's a 100$ meal i'm probably not going to tip over 20%.

But with a 15 dollar meal? Shit, tipping 50-60% for a cool as fuck waiter ain't no thing.

employers are required to keep track of how much employees received in tips.

If the employee were to ever get audited it wouldn't be hard to prove whether or not they under reported their tips

I usually always tip 20% to 25%.

Server spills shit on me: they still get 20%.

Server acts rude to me but I still get my food and refills: they still get 20%.

Once or twice, a server has pulled a disappearing act on my table and we've had to go find a manager to get our bill, or we've had to go get our refills ourselves, or something else. In these cases, I leave a single quarter as a tip.

You can act rude to me and even spill shit on me as long as you bring me my food in a reasonable time and refill my water glass / coffee mug. I'll still tip you 20%.

No fuck you

You sound like a nigger or a woman. Either way, kill yourself

>has worked 3 different shitty waiting jobs in the last 5 years

K E K son what the fuck are you doing with your life?
E
K

you get paid for doing your job. requirement of that job is doing it as expected. Not doing as expected because you don't get free handouts in not a valid reason.

Can you fuck off now?

Audited like the employer coming up and saying "show me how much cash in tips you have on you right now", or like an IRS sort of audit? (because getting cash/paying cash is hard to track, unless you're buying really-fuck expensive things, and putting the cash in your bank account instead of a mattress).

I tip 0-15 dollars depending on how well the service is. I don't do percentages because it doesn't make sense. It isn't more work to pour a more expensive drink or deliver a more expensive sandwich to my table.

Here's how I usually decide:

0% if the service is shit.
5% if the service is average.
10% if the service is good.
15% if the service is outstanding.
20% if the waitress is hot.
25% if the waitress is really hot.
30% if the waitress is really hot and responded well to my flirting.

>Total:$2979
>Tip:$10,000
>$2979+$10,000=$12,2979?

Wtf america. 12,2979 isnt even a number. End my life.

No how about you fuck off.

I'm doing just fine thanks for the concern.

I get paid to do my job and I get paid extra to do extra. Get it?

>Maybe when you say medium I will tell the chef well done
So you are a stupid nigger? I'll just send the fucking steak back.

American tipping system is fucking retarded and you still haven't explained why like the retarded tipping.

50% on a 10 dollar meal isn't much.

also
>a gypsie talking to others about money

Kill yourself worthless loser. I stiff all you poor fags

What counts as doing extra? Are you giving the customer a handie under the table or something?

You send your steak back I'll just send it back to you and like the dumb entitled shit you are you will think you won.

What extra? blowjobs, handjobs, a quicky on the side?
You bring food to someones table. Stop justifying living on free money and handouts you nigger.

Holy shit, you really are a dumb nigger! You do understand that if i order medium, you give me a fucking medium you dumb nigger.

Checking on their food. Giving them water. Talking to them. Fulfilling special requests that sort of stuff.

>Be me.
>Eating lunch at pizza hut.
>Ordered a small pizza.
>wtfisthisshit.jpg
>eat it in under 5 min.
>still hungry.
>waitress was around 40
>brown arab skin.
>tip $0

I won't give a tip for an overprized pizza served by a sandmonkey. Besides, it took like 40 minutes to make it.

0%, tipping is for americans. nobody else does it

>demands tips
>calls others entitled

noice

I will give you true he'll for fucking with my food. Send the steak back. Complain about the speed ti the waiter the table over. Stiff you again.

Please get a real job you worthless loser.

>i don't think paying more taxes for niggers will kill you
faggot

>Giving them water.
Wut

>get refills

user, you realize that McDonald's doesnt count as a place where you need to tip, right?

You won't get shit from me. You are lucky I don't dunk my nutsack in your French onion soup. Maybe if I ever get someone from your country I'll do that :)

That's why I round up. Saves me trouble of breaking change and they get to keep the rest.

Should I tip the trashman? Should I tip the mailman for bringing me the mail? Should I tip the bus driver for pulling to the curb for me? Where does it end? Americans are so fucking stupid that they'll defend their slave labour policies.

honestly american waiters are the entitled ones. You do a shit job I won't give you a tip easy enough