Can someone on Sup Forums help me refute this?

Can someone on Sup Forums help me refute this?

The answers are true. Communism is the shared means of production and not the sharing of personal property.

Communism doesn't work for other reasons though.

>tripcunt shitposter thread

You dont need to. All they did is the typical socialist/commie bullshit.

Namley answer questions by acting insulted and screaming about how anything that doesnt immediatley agree with them is propaganda and lies.

it's just easier this way

I catalog my posts

like what?

only in one sentence, you mean

Doesn't that require you to redefine personal property to specifically not include means of production, in other words, taking the existing means of production existing and giving it to everybody?

wrong.

under communism, people were taken at gun point out of their own homes

under communism, a full iteneray of their belongings is taken and items of interest to friends of officers are taken away

under communism, food is confiscated, and if you try to grow some yourself, even just a small personal window sill vegetable garden, it is taken from you and you are executed for "food hoarding"

you do not know shit about what the communists did in soviet russia, which is what communist fucktards want to repeat again in western countries.

Trying to say that those things are inherently attached to communism is like saying jewish genocide is inherently attached to national socialism

No, hes right in stating that the DEFINITION of communism as stated was correct.

Communism doesnt work because there has actually never been such a thing, as you pointed out.

It quits being communism once it turns into a totalitarian oligarchy and starts stealing from everyone to profit the state and enforcing its theft by force.

Every communist society ever created has done this, therefore, no such thing as a true communist societey has ever existed.

Every "communist" societey ever has essentially just been little more than a totalitarian theft of wealth and property to benifit a select few.

Mr brigg why are you posting my work on pol

it's not, but it's specifically attached to the natsoc party

There was a reason why Marx thought communism to be adapted by the west once certain social, technological and economical conditions were met. The fact that shitpoor hellholes decided to try this even when these conditions were not met was the reason for the attempted state socialism being shit.

And no these conditions are not met even in the contemporary west either but were closer than ever.

Ask them what the difference is between private property and personal property. If the answer is anything but "things I can afford and things I can't" you help them seize the means of production, because they'll be the first communist ever to give such an answer.

Like everything said by communists, their objections are technically correct but offer no solutions and don't answer the questions.

For 6 and 7, use the example of practically every regime in history to show that personal property is confiscated under a communist regime. Once you've destroyed their No True Scottsmaning, demand that they define a dividing line between personal and private property, then mock them with counterexamples like pencil sharpeners ("means of producing sharp pencils") versus mansions ("personal living quarters").

For 8, write "didn't answer the question, 0/3 marks" in red pen.

For 9, write "under-developed argument with lack of citations, 1/3" in red pen.

Damn, that nigga is red pilled on communism.

If only Sup Forums was as red pilled.

Jewish genocide is inherently attached to national socialism, or at least national socialism as practiced in a real country in the middle of a real war.

Come at me faggot.

>thinking communism/socialism is an acceptable alternative to cancer capitalism
>still using this outdated Industrial Age rhetoric "muh proletariat"
KEK, nice meme kid.

Where did you get this pic from?

>people were taken at gun point out of their own homes

crime that is incidental to whatever economic system is in place

>a full iteneray of their belongings is taken

again,
crime that is incidental to whatever economic system is in place

> food is confiscated,

AGAIN
crime that is incidental to whatever economic system is in place

>which is what communist fucktards

you have no clue what you are talking about

English teacher here

>Would your life be different if you had to share your [cell] phone?
The person didn't answer the question. Mark them a 0 for not responding.

If we do actually respond to what they 'answered' then you would say something to the effect of; "At some point all means of production were individually owned and therefor were personal property - if a cell phone could be classified as a means of 'social production' there isn't any particular reason such a useful tool wouldn't be taken by the state."

>Is sharing... iPod
Didn't answer; mark a zero.

>Do you think... property rights?
They didn't answer, mark a zero.

>What other...exist?
This is a legit response; change your question from "may not exist" to "might not exist because of the lack of property rights?".

>How are property...living?
Another totally legitimate response that techinically answers the question. Next time, ask them: "Do you believe property rights are essential to innovation and a better standard of living? Why or why not?"

no

"means of production" is just meme terminology for commercial property. No different than personal property.

Wtf I hate capitalism now

If I have to read through Ayn Rands shitfiction and Bullshit ideology filled neoliberal and ordoliberal papers and statistics the least you could do is to learn about socialist concepts.

Understanding what you're criticizing would make you seem hell of a lot more intelligent and would actually give your arguments some weight.

in my perfect world free of jews, capitalists, niggers, white men, muslims, poor people, and christians thus necessitating vast and unprecedented violations of human rights and dignity as well as a strict authoritarian vanguard of the people to ensure all thought criminals be euthanized for the good of the people/king/god/country/gene pool, my utopian collectivist fantasy would be viable

ergo #notrealsocialism

>t. Sup Forums and tumblr

both the teacher's phrasing of the questions and student's smug evasive literalism are retarded

however i will concede to you because impressive digits

Wow, that post had 0 substance.

>crime happens in all economic systems, therefore specific crimes that occur in specific socio-economic climates are completely irrelevant and shouldn't be considered

Go be a dumbass somewhere else.

but countries got very close. When a country got closer and closer to "true communism" (you just call it that because it doesn't work) the worse off everyone was.

The more and more you limit the state, and the idea of forcing people to share, the better off everyone is. espeically the poor

I'm not even gonna try to refute any points of why communism is a terrible idea because I'm not smart nor eloquent enough.

But all I want to point out is that only people from western, prosperous countries think that communism is a good system, having never experienced it on their own skin because their entire life they've lived in a capitalist society and their world view was clouded by capitalism.

They have no knowledge of what internment is, what it is to be under constant surveilence in search for the political dissenters, what it is to wait in endless lines to buy the most basic food and hygiene products, how it is to never be able to buy whatever you want to buy because the luxury products are so scarce, having to live with complete strangers in one apartment because the communist government mandated that x amount of square meters of your flat is enough for you and you need to share it with someone else.... and so on, I think you know what I mean.
This is the real life of communism. Not the on-paper-it-looks-awesome, why-don't-you-share, sharing-is-good smoke screen bullshit.

Remember one thing, in capitalism you can be left alone to do as you please. There is no place for it in socialism/communism

But why do I even respond to this b8 pic I have no clue....

Lol getting trolled by shills.

I'd tell she answered some questions wrong, and because of that she was enrolled in a capitalist reeducation camp about 50 miles outside of Anchorage Alaska. There they would continue their education until deemed a proper citizen of our capitalist society, at which time they would be released into a city of the free market's choosing. They will have no communication with their family during their education and because they answered wrongly a file will be opened into the counter capitalist activities of their family.

Technically private property ownership provides individuals with capital which they can use to secure investment or business funds (I guess). It also provides a financial incentive for success and enables enough market competitors (as opposed to the state) to ensure constant innovation