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always the french who ruin everything

The concert house (Jean Nouvel) has grown on me, but it also fits in well with the surroundings.

not all of us get to live in spheres or cones like you

Gaudiposting will save us all.

>tfw people think theyre rich because theyre in the UAE and took a selfie by the burj

He was a swiss you fuckin' dumbass.

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The area of paris he wanted to tear down was like the niggerslums of new york, put it in context

Can we have pics ? Give everything you've got my dear amerilard friend !

>just fuck my theory up senpai

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Why is always governments building those weird buildings?

>low buildings completely blocking the view to the main social gathering spot of the project
>one commieblock building per block
>at least there's commerce even if its concentrated on the corners
kind of a shitty project senpai

Honestly, the replacement building isn't too bad for a modern building, but compared to what it replaced, holy shit. And the vanilla buildings on either side were left untouched.

These blinds are a pretty clever idea but the execution is sort of poor.
Would have looked great if made of wood though.

late corbu is best corbu

Corbusier (SWISS) wrote a book called The City of To-morrow which is literally how Voisin plan was formed. The book outlines all the details, the payments, and how the buildings are used.

Contrary to popular believe he did not tear down every single building in Paris. He saved about 20 churches and major institutions

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>mfw

as a conservative architecture student, this is painful to watch

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>Sup Forumsished

No but seriously I meant it in a more general way about a kinda nostalgic view back in the past regardeless off topic. for architecture topic but it can be expanded on ofther things aswell

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the next apogee in architectural theory/history will be: the governing architect.
the architect as a political figure is the only possible way to reinstate uniformity in design. giving birth to new styles. it will be the only way for the architect to retake a position of control in the architecture/construction hierarchy, as high as it once was. the degradation of architecture as a profession is because of the democracy in design and availability in construction technology has allowed for decadent values. superstar architects are not the next step, nor is it the kike pushed meme architecture

am i onto something

He also wanted to make Paris a circulation and communication hub for the whole country.
As if we needed even more centralisation than we have.

>wood
>designed for Brazilian climate

Bump for brining back the fortress cities!
>tfw you will not live out the race war in an comfy fortified city

>as a conservative architecture student
Care to tell us something about your expiriences in this business?

It may actually work if they get rid of empty space. These parks are not functional and waste of space, people can't co-exist with mountain like building hanging over their heads. They would be like deserts.

Turn all this space into 1-2 floors public buildings (malls, arcades, offices, services etc) and they will become comfy.

This is the biggest tragedy in history of architecture.

before and after demoltion

>the next apogee in architectural theory/history will be: the governing architect
That's sort of how it worked in imperial China though. Towns were often rebuilt entirely to accomodate the emperor when he changed the capital, and often with a similar plan based on two perpendicular axis, so you have a solid grid within your walled city with each square subdivision having its purpose.

He did, he really believed in Paris. he also hated the slums.

Pic related is one of the boards from my research. The quote in the upper right is pretty telling

is that picture real?

As a good commie he hated the poor

Daily reminder that art deco is greatest of modernist aesthetics.

>the architect as a political figure is the only possible way to reinstate uniformity in design. giving birth to new styles. it will be the only way for the architect to retake a position of control in the architecture/construction hierarchy, as high as it once was. the degradation of architecture as a profession is because of the democracy in design and availability in construction technology has allowed for decadent values. superstar architects are not the next step, nor is it the kike pushed meme architecture
funny you say this, because it seems partly the path that architecture is kinda trying to follow.
As an architect I still seriously doubt that such thing can be achievable
Back in the 1920's up to the 1950's, the architect tried to be a political figure/social healer

It didnt work. Quite the opposite, it fucked things up, as a lot of people in these threads is well aware.

One thing I agree is that superstardom is not the future, thats for sure

It's not it was a plan for Canberra but the australians said no

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He was quite the dapper fellow back in the day

+88
That's what we are trying to do in France due to our big communist legacy in terms of housing (what we call "grands ensembles" or "cités" - shitskins nests, in fact).

Lot of pleasant urban redevelopment, wasted by its inhabitants (nogs and muds).

pic related is "La Duchère" in Lyon, you can see older pics on Jewgle to compare.

sure, now it feels comfy, but back in the 14th century it was anything but comfy

before he adapted his new look

>tfw live in Caen
>Entire fucking town was destroyed during World War II, we're talking like 90% of buildings levelled save for the castle and most churches
>Town was hastily rebuilt postwar with asbestos, concrete and stupid ideas, right when the brutalist movement was in full swing, and no one ever stopped to wonder how it'd look 50 years later

Every single day I have to drive right next to this abomination of a hospital. Almost makes me want to pray for mudslimes to bomb the fuck out of it.

wtf australia? Thats what australia would have looked like? amazing

Your eco-quartiers are quite neat (sometimes)

New Urbanism did wonders in the US and northern europe. Solved a lot of the cancers of modernist urbanism

That piece of shit is protected now. Alvar Aalto is overrated piece of shit architect.

I don't know how to feel about this, looks like some shit I made from legos when I was 5

I sort of like rocket/googie art. There is something charming in how blatantly enthusiastic and visibly american it was.
It didn't age that well sadly.

You did a 7 pages report on it and don't even know how to spell "Voisin Plan"?

Anyway, Corbusier was a mistake, and so was the pseudo-modern architectural movement.
Just a big pile of horseshit that should be swiftly erased from Human history as soon as possible.

THANKS ANGLOCUNTS

I pose this question to everyone in this thread:

If you hate modernism/brutalism/boxism/cubeism etc modern architecture, then what do you think it SHOULD be?

Every style is rooted in the matters and ideals of that time. Would you prefer America only made colonial archotecture into 2016? Or that France builds gothic hamlets for another 1000 years?

Something will always change, architecture included

Why? Fucking why?

A typo. Voisin comes from the only car company who would sponsor his plan. It would be like the Chrysler Plan or the General Motors Plan for New York of today

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Indoor plumbing makes a hell of a difference.

>then what do you think it SHOULD be?
Everything art deco forever

nothing much unusual to report that doesnt already happen in all Arch colleges worldwide. Most classmates i have thing this is a decent urban project.

the good news is even if they did bomb it, all the concrete makes it like a bunker, shit is indestructible senpai!

he should have been publicly executed

i meant the architect as the emperor, not the architect creating uniform cities for an emperor. to follow the analogy.

i meant that governing could sort of become part of architecture as a profession. as an extension of it. architects have lost hierarchy, so its sort of a next logical step, and its exclusivity (imagine universities schooled architects in governance) theres an connotation of traditionalism in the whole idea that could imply the return of values of uniformity

did someone say Art Deco? based Detroit

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New urbanism is the answer.

Pic related, these are newly build.

I don't blame the british for it, I blame our own architects for their inept sense of urban planning.

Could've turned out nice if it hadn't been for Corbusier and his love of raw concrete

>first building way too gaudy
>second way too plain

why is it so hard?

The Central Station will live again one day

>what do you think it SHOULD be?

Shit bro, awful. Rather live in Limoges instead of there (Limoges is quite comfy btw).

Urbanism is great Pedro (street-aligned buildings, return of stores at the bottom floor, etc.) ! However, these buildings suck asses and they are poorly built due to consumerist fever : built to last 20 years, then to be replaced by even shittier ones.

Also : rootless, abstracts, blanks... The reflect of our (((society))) !

pic related is ZAC rive gauche (in Paris). Not unpleasant, but it has nothing to do there !!!

Currently being built in central Copenhagen.
The immediate area around it is very ugly. Looking forward to it being finished.

The point is, Modernism was a jewish creation.
Basically what it changed was a reduction on costs for new materials. Thus creating the box architecture style with cheap designs and minimalistic interiors.

Don't get me wrong, some architects applied new techniques which it's cool, but famm... modern architecture is souless.

and also this white elephant that has just been finished in here

other side

There were some good currents in modern architecture honestly. American streamline, art-deco, even some individual buildings in international style. but the problem often comes from the lack of ensemble : putting a glass tower in a XIXth century town will look out of place and that's one of the issue with many modern/postmodern buildings. And that is especially tru in Europe where many large towns still have a preserved historical center.
On the other hand when grouped it can create sort of a choerent whole. Hong Kong could be a good exemple.
One thing that isn't really don't but that I'd be curious to see is what architects could come up if trying to modernize some older styles of buildings. Sort of how the Taipei 101 takes inspiration from buddhist pagodas in its overall shape.

contemporary architects that spend time redesigning historic centres make a hell of a difference too

Based on this it seems like the inclusion of nature in the city. DId you see Naturopolis and do you think more green should be intigrated into cities? Or do you have another goal or style in mind yourself?

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mfw no genius loci

Literally any style is okay, even if I dislike most.
Modern art and architecture are just literal esthetic and urban cancer.

too soon

It already looks dated. Like some socialist crap museum from the 60's that aged badly.

Albert knew what was up

more art deco from detroit

I don't have a problem with evolving Architecture. What I do have a problem with however is the visual vomit that is modern art leaking into the design of buildings, that are not only an eyesore now but they also age like milk, and worse yet they are built at the expense of older, prettier buildings.

Keep building palaces in palatial style.
>tfw even the jews aren't spared from modernism

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Why is this allowed?

Is this the building from The Untouchables?

Before the nigs and the commies

only the facade remains

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there's a housing estate that looks like that near where I live except shorter and with less balconies and despite being full of chavs it's still lovely -_-

the suburbs should've all been Prairie style

Here's what happened to the Belgian coast.

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This is gonna redpill people though

The Renaissance Center (GM Center) in Detriot, mid 70s

a u t i s m

>Before the nigs

Rio was always a black city, old Rio more so. There weren't drug dealers tho.

I'm fucking mad

>a fire starts
>everone dies