Poland

According to the German media, Poland will be EU's biggest challenge in 2018
dw.com/en/opinion-poland-will-be-the-eus-biggest-challenge-in-2018/a-41964682
What should we do with them? Should we kick them out? Or should we try to bring them back in order?
I think its time to say goodbye to them. They cause way more trouble than they're worth and if they gain more power in future EU they will just bring us all down with their backwardness and primitivism.

I agree

EU a shit. It can't kick them out, and it can't force them back into line.

Get those sons of bitches out of the EU! OUT! You're fired! FIRED!

Well they have to do something. We're entering a very important period in EU's history where a lot of big decisions are to be made.

Yes Grease must be kicked out too

Will we get out own theme?

Like if you fight a sub boss or a boss in a vidya there's a theme playing to make the fight more cool.

We should have ours.

If you want to become Germans go ahead and become Germans noone is stopping you.

Why?

Let them out. They take the majority of all EU money, I want them begging to return to the Union.
And / or for the cost of Hinterpommern and Schlesien ofc

depends, what vidya games do you play?

Immediately suspend voting rights and then suspend transfer payments. The Polish budget is very dependent on European money. It would explode overnight with the Polish government scrambling to put the pieces back into order.

The EU can't allow single members to compromise democratic institutions and checks and balances or else we will live in an atomized 'union' run by rogue autocrats.

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We are a burden on members' budgets and higly corrupt. A failed state basically. eu is all about the hard working and pure.

I don't give a shit
Europe is too gay for my taste anyway

You're aware than all the visegrad-group countries will oppose any sanction aimed at Poland, right?

This is geniunely a good idea.
Yeah but you dont cause that much problems and have a nice sea.
And you will improve, right?

"We" should treat them the same way every member state in the EU should be treated: with respect, patience and high expectations.

That said, if any of the countries doesn't want to follow fundamental principles EU is built upon, it should leave. If it doesn't want to leave, the EU should dissolve itself and, if such will be the popular demand, reform anew with safeguards against such a deadlock happening again.

Then we either ignore them or sanction them aswell.
Czech republic and Slovakia are small and weak, they can be dealt with easily. But Hungary could be a problem...

Yea the EU did great with the refugee crisis and the recession at the end of the 00's...

For me, every time the EU is supposed to 'unite' and do something it just absolutely fails.

It's a fucking joke of an organization.

Based Poland,hope they destroy EU with V4

but you can't ignore them, that's why there's a deadlock

to enforce sanction to Poland, you need an unanimous vote from all the members of the EU (bar the one that is to be sanctionned of course)

and the visegrad group, especially Hungary, said they will never vote for this, so it will never happen

sweet
anyhow I think we should just milk Germany as much we can and then get the hell outa this union

Thats another reason why we need stronger Europe. To be able to stand up against american interventionism in ME and financial dependence on dollar because both refuge crisis and recession are your fault.

The V4 are gonna save Europe

You as a Croat need a stronger Europe cause your country is a failed state that is completely reliant on touris

>saving Europe
not a chance, we will build a wall around V4, sit back and watch the west burn

>And you will improve, right?
No, we are not even european
Kick us out, eventually the debt will cause more trouble, eu needs more insulation from it.

You are aware that collective sanctions can't be opposed by the respective governments? Hungary vetoed the Polish sanctions but if the EU decided to move against both at the same time they won't be able to do that.

>we
I don't think you realise that most western Europeans don't want balkaniggers or romanians in the EU. You've brought nothing but trouble

You're acting like a woman attacking on personal level lol

I just met an american tourist the other day.

There won't be a deadlock. There is a loophole when collective sanctions are applied.

just invade us already

cuck

It wasn't worth expanding into further discussion after he shrugged off the complete mismanagement of those issues as well as simply blamed them on America.

C-can I come in please?

A lot of delusions itt desu

>le EU strong will force the entitled little cunts to toe the line!
>le V4 strong will destroy the EU(SS)SR and save white europe
>le V4 will be white while rest of the europe burns while drowning in brown sea

EU will either get its shit together and form a border control policy and a foreign policy to police its neighbourhood in order to keep its shit from spilling over, or it will fall apart and the various countries will all scramble to deal with loss of stability in the region on their own resources, with stronger countries having to reconcile their conflicting interests in doing so.

Regardless which directions things go, the central and eastern european countries will gain or suffer together with the western europeans. We're interconnected too deeply for anything else. The small and the weak and the poor will either ride on the success of the great, or share impotently in consequences of their failures.

>collective sanctions

Is that even a thing?

You should do it.

We are not like Romanians, we are white and civilized and also a lot of our people work in Ireland.
Btw you wanted us to join

I'm pretty sure Ireland has singlehandedly blocked stuff before and we have much less political will to be independent than poland

No. You are as dumb as russians. You deserve dictatorship and no eu money.

>Hungary vetoed the Polish sanctions
Absolute lads

>form a border control policy
already done
> a foreign policy to police its neighbourhood
>what is NATO

It's playing a bit dirty but there is nothing legally or otherwise preventing them from doing that. They could just draw up sanctions targeting both states and prevent them from vetoing it for each other.

As someone with personal experience with both, Romanians are about as white and civilized as you guys are m8

don't confuse Romanians with gypsies, they're good people

ok, send me 5k euro and I will smuggle you in if shit hits the fan

Well, the major members want more integration and movement towards a, more or less, single state. Some others want it to stay a trading and border union. Maybe letting them go wouldn't be that bad of an idea.

But then You'd probably be left with the original ECSC members plus a few others and the Baltics as an awkward exclave.

Or do what some others said and suspend euromoneys?

there was already enough low skilled people in Poland and the balkans
you guys are just more people to come here and take jobs from teenagers and low skilled workers. Not to mention bulgaria and romania should definitely have never been let in the EU in the first place, their countries are way too corrupt.
Serious institutional problems are supposed to be dealt with before joining the EU but they were given a pass because the EU wanted to take control of the countries around Russia

>already done
No, it's not. If you are referring to Dublin system, that's a mess that demonstrably doesn't work.
>NATO
is not made for this purpose, although I suppose it could work to fulfill it if there was political will for this. So far the results are... lackluster, euphemistically put.

Seems fair to me

>Or do what some others said and suspend euromoneys?
That is actually the nuclear choice here. A cutting down of funds wouldtrigger any members secession. In any case the eu is the winner. Either the """ rogue member""" submits or leaves on its iwn will and the eu doesnt lose face.

Dont forget you were an immigrant nation too
They said the same for you when you were coming to america

when you refer to me you call me Pan Slavomir
I will call you Podrick

don't care

Well, you are a hypocrite then. Or just a bad person.

Yes Mr Slavomir
>Podrick
I like that name

...

>nadrick
hehe

The Dublin agreement dies work. Germany is already sending people back and takes in less than it is supposed to take in. Practically they don't recognise Greece as a Schengen member too.
As for nato it is the best choice since no joint euro army can surpass it any time soon.

so you think that I should just accept endless waves of immigrants because Irish people emigrated to America? Thats retarded. This country is already 20% immigrant thanks to that attitude.

Send Polish qts to the US please

Fuck EU, Vive la Pologne !

No I'm just saying there are good immigrants and bad ones. And Croatians are working people, they dont cause problems and integrate well, as the Irish.

coming :3

you're a pole who wants to come back home after brexit?

I'll be waiting for you at the airport :3

some say I'm cute but I will stay here cause I'm masochistic

Do not fear friends, the Polish problem will be solved.

Ś L Ą S K

No I'm a Brit

and who are you again?
Mazowsze
sweet, my very own British stable boy

The EU has been lobbying to get Poland covered by the Visa Waiver Program for quite a while but the American government has continued to break its promises.

Sorry, no Polish qts for you.

And then the rest will ask themselves "will we be next?" and veto it themselves.

ehhh

If Dublin agreement worked, Germany would not have had to deport a single person because they would've been dealt with in Greece, Italy, Hungary etc. But border countries cannot lift the burden placed on them even if they wanted (which they understandably don't).

Besides even if Germany intensifies deportation of people not entitled to asylum or other grounds for immigration, the numbers are still laughable compared to people who squat down in ghettos where state authorities are impotent to enforce order... and that's on top of those among citizens who live there legally, just don't really consider themselves beholden to the state or general society at all.

Numbers of coming immigrants have gone down thanks to deals with parties like Turkey and "government" of Libya that bring their own baggage, political, economical and moral.

w-will I have to do dirty stuff?

:(

Ready my horse, in the past Lithuanians used to do that here

clean za toilet Podrick
the tables have turned

>Poland sends their finest young men to fight and die in American wars
>They don't even get bloody visa waived in return
>but based Trump promises them gas shipments that were already being arraged for under that evil socialist muslim nigger Obama... we'll just hike prices a bit because America First you understand, but hey we respect Polish history soooo much...

I don't care for EU and US anymore
China on the other hand...

I didn't say you were bad I said you were too many already

Leave the EU and make China the best ally of V4. We thus are safe from Russia and can turn over the shit from China taxing it and make the silk road the gold mine

aw yis there are others

the sheer numbers of people coming in is unmanagable. Germany opened the borders for close to one mil people and now filters them and sends the unwanted back. Turkey and Libya can only reduce the inflow not quench it entirelly.

yes sir ;-;

u r cute

And after that maybe use 16+1 to encourage neighboring countries to convert and join our union, say, Romania, Croatia, Slovenia, maybe Belarus and Serbia

Why the fuck would you want Romania in? Bunch of gypos

East here we come
West is boring, I fart in your general direction

romanians are not gypsies

>Leave the EU and make China the best ally of V4.
Right now Germany is the EU/Western country with the best relationship to China. You realize that?

I am so much waiting for Poland to leave EU and to see your faces when it turns up that Poland do better without EU which will happen trust me. EU needs us our market, not the other way, you can all suck a dick.

Think you'll find they are mate, that's what the daily mail told me

>Right now Germany is the EU/Western country with the best relationship to China
you can think whatever you like
but what if you're wrong?

Are you being sarcastic?
You made me laugh