Roland Emmerich BTFO marvel

"When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero. A lot of Marvel movies, they show people in funny suits running around. I don’t like people in capes. I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies. I don’t understand it. I grew up in Germany, that’s probably why."


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>Roland Emmerich
>1998 Godzilla
>The day after tomorrow
>10,000 BC
>2012
>Anonymous
>White House Down
>Has a hard on for Communism and votes for Hilary
Does he actually think his is a voice people listen to?

(((Roland Emmerich)))

This.

>I grew up in Germany, that’s probably why.
Halt die Klappe, Roland.

Yeah, this auteur is so fucking grounded and realistic that he tried to make a movie about the Stonewall riot, and it was the biggest piece of trash ever. I'm fucking gay and that movie, directed by a gay man, made me wish the studio had just found any mediocre straight guy to direct it instead. I mean its a movie about gays rioting, how do you make that boring?

All these butthurt directors taking potshots at superhero movies are hilarious.

>It's another "Europeans don't understand the concept of superheroes" thread

I mean, Godzilla 1998 should have been enough, but the man just keeps fucking up.

>Anonymous
Holy fuck.

I had to look up anonymous, was even funnier than I expected.

How can you have a hard on for communism and vote for Hillary?

>Tony stark
>Natasha romanoff
>Bruce Banner
>peter quill
>T'challa
>Fucking THOR
>"Joe schmo"

ooohh good work.

The guy that made a movie about a giant hermaphrodite iguana thinks superheroes are silly.

Apparently he decks his house out in memorabilia, portraits, and mural's of communist leaders.

He's German so obviously he's used to scheiße/mouth interactions.

The last time I was in Germany and I saw a man standing above everyone else, we had a disagreement.

>When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero.
Is that why they're boring as fuck?

The guy who made 10,000 BC thinks cape movies are silly. Oh thats rich.

Emmerich is just jealous that he didn't get some of that superhero money.

>Godzilla
>Independence Day
>Stargate
>not the perfect Blockbuster Sci-Fi trilogy

>I grew up in Germany

So he is a cuck, makes sense

Does he get confused by Star Wars too? I mean aliens and space ships, what the fuck is with that?! I mean the MCU is shit but not because MUH BELIEVABILITY.

I am actually looking forward to the sequel of Independence Day.

How many movies are there whose the premise is "human making techs out of a reent failed alien invasion". I want to see what can be done with it.

Any new recent trailers?

It Ain't Me tv spot
youtube.com/watch?v=PW-GeadKrBY

>Emmerich complaining about Believability
>The same guy whos biggest movie had a mac hacking into an alien OS.

>another director assblasted that Cape movies make more than there's

Wait, Data survived? I thought he was kill in the first movie?

To be fair, they had 50 years to study the technology.

Apparently the backmatter explains that since they had the ship since the 40's...technology had been based on it.
Including computers.

She'll continue most of the socialist projects of B.O., or maybe it's a conspiracy and he thinks voting Hillary will lead to the uprising of the prolls. Most likely though he's a statist, and he loathes Sander's moderate stance on gun ownership.

If you mean the long haired doctor guy, he was apparently in a coma, I thought he died too.

Was it about which Berlin Bakerei had the best Kuchen. That man's usually dead on.

he is played by the same actor than Data.

theirs

You know, Spend too long in a coma and you will almost certainly become brain dead.

It's not even true, all of his protagonists are brilliant scientists and military men.

>ID4 not available on Netfils in my country
Well, with a little luck, they will air it on normal TV channels.

Jesus fuck, I just looked that up, what a difference a beard and long hair make, couldn't even tell.
True, but from what I've gathered from the tv spots, it happened while he was mind melding with one of the aliens, so that could have prevented some degradation, also explains how he knows about the queen.

Wasn't John Cusack just an author with impossibly good luck?

I always hated that.
>The only way we could have such advanced technology is with the help of muh aliums
The work of Von Neumann, Von Braun, and Oppenheimer and the many other brilliant men doesn't count for shit then. It's a bit silly desu.

>I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies.
It is silly, you fucking numpty. That's why people love it.

Still had above average driving kills. Plus the main character was Chiwetel Ejiofor anyway.

Remember the time Star Trek said Vulcans gave us Velcro?

"HOLY SHIT SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE SUPERHEROES!"

I want Sup Forums to go.

Why the fuck would they five credence or time to anything this hack has to say.

He made 10000 BC a movie as dull and engaging as a watching paint dry, white paint that actually dried a long time ago.

Oh yeah a caveman who was "le chosen one" there's a relatable everyman.

And now this idiot gets to reboot Stargate? Fucking Hollywood.

He likes to say that he was driven out of Germany by the critics.

To be fair, he wrote and directed the original.

No no to be fairness, it was a small miracle it survived him in the first place.

But that's a good thing for Marvel.

Germans aren't even humans, really.

Silence, Godzilla hater.

Your opinions have no sway here.

This guy is the living defnition of a C-list film director.

>I don’t like people in capes. I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies.
First of all, holy shit, I'm getting sick of this fucking mindset for comics in general. This is literally the mindset that led to all those shitty cape movies in the early-mid 00s

Second, The only one of those that do that is really Thor

Third, where does this mindset even come from? Didn't Snyder say something like this? You know, you'd never hear someone like Nolan say some shit like this. Even Spielberg when he talked about the comic book movie going out of fashion someday never commented on the style of the movie itself. He even has a favorite in GOTG

>Anonymous
IMMEDIATELY DISREGARD OPINION

>>It's another "Europeans don't understand the concept of superheroes" thread
Why IS that, anyway? Grant Morrison has talked a little bit about this, says it's something exceptionalism vs. conformism something?

Even worse
>SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE LITERALLY THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME THE MCU I CAN'T EVEN

True his track record is utter shit.

But at the same time you have to realize, it was his brain child, he knows what's right for it, and hopefully for the reboot what will and won't work. Think Fury Road, in anyone else's hands who knows what the finished product could have turn out to be, but Miller somehow managed to make a gem, even with plot tones that drive half the boards on this site up the wall.

I'll be the last to defend Emmerich, but sometimes the original creator does know best, but for now it's all hypothetical cause he's focusing on Jeff Goldblum vs Aliens 2: Independence Day in June.

>Second, The only one of those that do that is really Thor
Like the guy was going to talk shit about the people signing his current paycheck.

Historically, continentals have always had a fundamentally different social system to anglos.
The peasantry - which stretched from Portugal to Japan - stopped at the English Channel and instead you had a thriving property market stretching back at least to the 1200s.
Americans took that individualistic mindset and magnified it.

>When you look at my movies it’s always the regular Joe Schmo that’s the unlikely hero
First of all, that's not even true. Many of his protagonists are scientists and military guys.
Second of all, plenty of Marvel protagonists have been Joe Schmo unlikely heroes, like Ant-Man.
Third of all, the main character being a Joe Schmo unlikely hero doesn't make it better. Most good movies aren't about regular everymen.

...

Well, I might not have everyone agreed with me, but ID4 was a good movie.

...Stargate the movie was hardly a gem. It was an alright action movie, but it was dumb as a rock and the humor was awkward or unfunny. SG1 was the best thing to ever happen to the franchise, hell the only reason WHY it's a franchise and not forgotten.

Sorry I misread that, you didn't call Stargate a gem - but I stand by my point. Nobody remembers Kurt Russel's Jack O'Neil. People give a shit about RDA's Jack O'Neill.

It's the collapse of the hollywood system they knew and loved, and they rage against it.

It use to be that actors and directors sold movies. People like Will Smith, they go to see his movies every summer, everyone makes money, everyone wins. Now the power has shifted towards characters and adaptations and sequels. People don't care about seeing a Chris Evans movie, they want to see Captain America. There are very few true movie stars anymore, that can carry a movie all on their own.

As you can imagine, this scares the piss out of them.

It's true, I only refer to Tom Hiddleston and Chris Hemsworth as Loki, and Thor.

I think Dwayne Johnson is honestly the last big Hollywood star that can sell a movie on name alone.

Maybe not, if CIA flops.

Unless you partner him with an loud black smurf, and then release it at the same time a lesbian fish with alzheimer's goes on a sequel level adventure.

>Roland Emmerich
>1998 Godzilla

All I needed to read.

>I don't like people in capes
>I lived in Germany
The Germans really need some kind of hero man....

It did okay, $35 million this weekend. Not a huge hit but it only cost $50 million to make.

Do you live in Best Korea?

In the states we pretty much Marathon that movie every fucking July.

They had one, user.

What other actors/directors have taken potshots at superhero movies or Marvel?

It's very clear that something is gonna shift in Hollywood. Look films that sold this year

boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2016&p=.htm

Disney has the top 3 spots, and after Deadpool, they plunge in lower and lower sales. I keep saying it, but I think several major studios may close if this keeps up

the DC guys, Iñárritu said some shit about superheroes,

Thats good. I like Dwayne. He seems like a bro.

There's this great article way back in 2009 or something that when Chris and Tom were cast went "Well, let's hope the special effects are good" because they were nobodies.

Hollywood really doesn't know what's hitting them. I'm frankly glad because I'm tired of seeing the same people at the Oscars since I was 9 dominate everything.

>I find it silly when someone dons a superhero suit and flies

And the line 'the neutrinos have mutated' isn't silly?

Zack Synder said that he can't take two people dressed in costumes and capes seriously, like after a minute you are Cary aware that they are just guys in costumes instead of their characters.

Fucking hack.

>People don't care about seeing a Chris Evans movie, they want to see Captain America
Can you just imagine how completely impossible it was to read this sequence of words as a sentence not even a decade ago?

You guys are aware that ID4 was predicted to flop because it was a cast of nobodies, right?

Yes, including Will Smith. all he had for him at that point was the Fresh Prince and Independance Day was the movie that actually launched his career. Many actually predicted that his casting alone was proof of how little hope that movie had.

Eimerich's movie doesn't particularly stand out by its popular cast. (they don't particularly stand out at all, desu).

Stargate and ID4 are the only two good movies I can think of him.

Lets not forget how he thought it would be "fun" to kill off an iconic character like Jimmy Olsen.

Or told the cast and crew not to read the comics because he thought it would be "pointless".

Spielberg, Iñárritu, Snyder, Verhoven.

>Roland fucking Emmerich thinks he's in a position to judge anything as being "silly"

Is this nigger for real?

Does he actually just have ZERO self-awareness?

There's not a single movie in his portfolio that isn't a complete, shameless ball of cheese.

Don't tell me that this man takes his own output seriously.

Usually I would say "Shut the fuck up, Boco!" but today you happen to be 100% right

>how he thought it would be "fun" to kill off an iconic character like Jimmy Olsen.
Was it actually Jimmy Olsen? in the movie itself, he was only ever refereed as CIA, then ded. it could just be a nobody. Is he titled at any point as Jimmy?

>Or told the cast and crew not to read the comics because he thought it would be "pointless".

that's not THAT weird, like if you want them to focus on making the performance and not imitating stuff or something.

what'd Spielberg and Verhoven say?

No, but later he specifically said it was meant to be Jimmy, just to shock fans.

I still don't get the idea that Euros couldn't into superheroes, when the FUNDAMENTAL moral of the entire genre is effectively Noblesse Oblige. It's Spider-Man's Mantra, but it basically applies to every superhero.

Is it because Europe had actual nobility, and has all but completely rejected it, or what?

He's credited as jimmy olsen in the uncut version.

Some said that the cape genre exist in the comic to fill in the absence of mythology other countries already have.

Spielberg:

>Steven Spielberg on Wednesday predicted an "implosion" in the film industry is inevitable, whereby a half dozen or so $250 million movies flop at the box office and alter the industry forever. What comes next -- or even before then -- will be price variances at movie theaters, where "you're gonna have to pay $25 for the next Iron Man, you're probably only going to have to pay $7 to see Lincoln." He also said that Lincoln came "this close" to being an HBO movie instead of a theatrical release.

Also said eventually superhero movies would go the way of the western and die out, but that they could come back around again.

ehh that's not really hating on them. i'm reading it as more of a shot at hollywood now where almost everything is a tentpole or cheap indie stuff with almost no mid range movies.

>I grew up in Germany
Are you just going to take that, Germany?

He's just throwing his lack of comprehension onto you like you're one big country and people of incompetents who don't and can't get things.

Grew up in Germany? Want to see a Marvel movie? Well, shit, good fucking luck.

All day. Literally all day someone somewhere's deflecting blame for something onto you. When is enough enough?

Here's Verhoeven, it's much of the same

>“I’m not positive about the further development of all [this] science-fiction stuff,” Verhoeven said. “I have a feeling that everything has been said and done and I think we should go back to a bit more normality. All these big superheroes and whatever, I don’t know what dream this is of the United States, but I feel that we lost contact completely with normal people, and that the story of us is more interesting than that of a superhero.”

>“Right now, Hollywood doesn’t fit with my artistic sensibilities,” he continued. “I feel that in France and in Europe, there is enormous respect for filmmakers. This doesn’t happen in Hollywood. For us, it’s hard to shoot there because they do not want what we want. There, all films must be visible to the greatest number. Money rules everything. The studios have abandoned the quality. Everything is smooth, it idles. They try to avoid controversy.”

BO...socialist...really?

BO is a bland vanilla centrist.

And Dan Gilroy.
And didn't the guy directing Suicide Squad throw shade on the MCU?

It's the same mindset as Michael Bay, of not making any effort with a movie because "lol its dumb anyway." There's a kind of inverse snobbery at its root.

Marvel's movies are made by people who respect the characters and source material. That's why even the weaker Marvel movies shit on almost every Hollywood capeshit made in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s.
Kevin Smith had it right when he said we are getting comic movies which actually resemble the source material whereas in the past you had to accept shitty adaptations which were often insulting.

If you are making a movie try to tell an interesting story, and make it as good as you can, even if it's a film about a talking hamster, at least make an effort ffs.

That's not so much shittalking superheroes so much as realistically assessing the Blockbuster Movie as fairly toxic to the industry, from the man who created the Blockbuster.